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[Spoilers] Junkka's Epic Speech - Page 12
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newcccp
Sweden19 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On November 14 2010 00:08 newcccp wrote: thx for the final spoiler this -___- got spoiled and instantly hit the report button and was like WHAT THE FUCK MAN | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
I do agree to some extent with the speech and about chasing dreams and being passionate about things. On the other hand, I think it's always important to keep reality in mind. Very few people will have the combination of talent, luck, dedication, etc. to be successful in chasing a dream like this and in the case of eSports, it may very well be a fleeting dream that leaves you with nothing to fall back on afterward if you place all of your hopes in it. It would be a wonderful thing if we could all do work we're passionate about, but that's also the type of thinking that leads to the current trend of 20 and 30-something year olds still living in their parents house and constantly switching majors at school because they just can't find that one thing they can see themselves doing and enjoying for the rest of their lives. | ||
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bbsss
Netherlands163 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:52 mGMUSE wrote: it really reminds me of steve jobs' speech here do what you really love to do thanks for that link, I thought it was a very moving speech | ||
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ace246
Australia360 Posts
On November 14 2010 00:17 LegendaryZ wrote: Not sure why anyone would call this speech "epic". There was nothing about it that really stood out to me. Just a typical "follow your dreams" type of speech that you hear all the time. Maybe people are so excited about it because it's about eSports? But then again, it's not the first such speech about eSports or gaming either so the reaction puzzles me. I do agree to some extent with the speech and about chasing dreams and being passionate about things. On the other hand, I think it's always important to keep reality in mind. Very few people will have the combination of talent, luck, dedication, etc. to be successful in chasing a dream like this and in the case of eSports, it may very well be a fleeting dream that leaves you with nothing to fall back on afterward if you place all of your hopes in it. It would be a wonderful thing if we could all do work we're passionate about, but that's also the type of thinking that leads to the current trend of 20 and 30-something year olds still living in their parents house and constantly switching majors at school because they just can't find that one thing they can see themselves doing and enjoying for the rest of their lives. I couldn't agree more | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
point fingers at them. put your hand over your mouth and giggle. them be bandwagnrs son seriously what the hell, this is nowhere near epic, considering its prepared. | ||
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Sinborn
United States275 Posts
At that point, I would have to omit that part of the speech because it reminded me of the vacuous mindset that reinforces Youtube celebrities like Chris Crocker. Fan art is cool, but waving it over someone seems like an extraordinarily weak way to justify your position, if not a touch subtractive. Other than that, John pulled a Zenio on all his naysayers, and that's perfectly fine with me. | ||
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
On November 14 2010 00:17 LegendaryZ wrote: Not sure why anyone would call this speech "epic". There was nothing about it that really stood out to me. Just a typical "follow your dreams" type of speech that you hear all the time. Maybe people are so excited about it because it's about eSports? But then again, it's not the first such speech about eSports or gaming either so the reaction puzzles me. I do agree to some extent with the speech and about chasing dreams and being passionate about things. On the other hand, I think it's always important to keep reality in mind. Very few people will have the combination of talent, luck, dedication, etc. to be successful in chasing a dream like this and in the case of eSports, it may very well be a fleeting dream that leaves you with nothing to fall back on afterward if you place all of your hopes in it. It would be a wonderful thing if we could all do work we're passionate about, but that's also the type of thinking that leads to the current trend of 20 and 30-something year olds still living in their parents house and constantly switching majors at school because they just can't find that one thing they can see themselves doing and enjoying for the rest of their lives. Maybe because of the fact that he stopped translating halfway through, hi-jacked the broadcast and told off everyone who had not treated him nicely while he was down and gave an emotional story of his life, all in front of tens of thousands of viewers? | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
Not sure why anyone would call this speech "epic". There was nothing about it that really stood out to me. Just a typical "follow your dreams" type of speech that you hear all the time. Maybe people are so excited about it because it's about eSports? But then again, it's not the first such speech about eSports or gaming either so the reaction puzzles me. I do agree to some extent with the speech and about chasing dreams and being passionate about things. On the other hand, I think it's always important to keep reality in mind. Very few people will have the combination of talent, luck, dedication, etc. to be successful in chasing a dream like this and in the case of eSports, it may very well be a fleeting dream that leaves you with nothing to fall back on afterward if you place all of your hopes in it. It would be a wonderful thing if we could all do work we're passionate about, but that's also the type of thinking that leads to the current trend of 20 and 30-something year olds still living in their parents house and constantly switching majors at school because they just can't find that one thing they can see themselves doing and enjoying for the rest of their lives. Sometimes it isn't just about what is said, but when and who says it that makes the impact. We've all come to expect inspirational and important speeches from political figures, and "celebrity" types because it is their job, or they are in a position to do that. But when something like this comes out of nowhere from a person you really wouldn't expect it from the impact can be just as great if not greater to a lot of people. This isn't some millionaire telling you "hey follow your dreams, I did and now look at me!" In fact it was quite the opposite. It was just a simple guy saying you can be happy just doing what you enjoy even if you aren't going to be rich or famous you can still attain happiness. Yes he was talking about eSports in his speech but it can be applied to a really anything. The impact wasn't because of what was said, it is a speech we've heard in some shape or form over and over again, but it is just nice to hear it from a place you'd never expect watching an SC2 feed from Korea. Lastly, I'd love to see your statistics on this growing trend of 20-30 something year olds sitting in their parents basement switching majors. The drop in college graduation rates in our country is not because of bunch of nerdy kids are sitting in their basements trying to be professional computer game players. Actually most of the kids I know that are living at home with their parents are there right now with a nice fancy degree from a good university they just can't find a job at the moment. | ||
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Crystal368
Sweden161 Posts
On November 14 2010 00:38 Sinborn wrote: I was fine until he used fanart as a measurement of personal success. I cringed hard when that came around. At that point, I would have to omit that part of the speech because it reminded me of the vacuous mindset that reinforces Youtube celebrities like Chris Crocker. Fan art is cool, but waving it over someone seems like an extraordinarily weak way to justify your position, if not a touch subtractive. Other than that, John pulled a Zenio on all his naysayers, and that's perfectly fine with me. Afaik, he really likes that fanart, and is really really proud of it, so I think that using it as an example of personal succes is as good as anything. | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On November 14 2010 00:41 coddan wrote: Maybe because of the fact that he stopped translating halfway through, hi-jacked the broadcast and told off everyone who had not treated him nicely while he was down and gave an emotional story of his life, all in front of tens of thousands of viewers? Telling off people who didn't believe in you (probably for completely logical reasons given the circumstances) and then giving a sob story about how nobody thought it was a good idea while you were sitting in your room for 2 1/2 years playing games all day is "epic"? This is much more "Ha ha, I'm on TV and you're not." than a serious motivational or inspirational speech. It doesn't touch on the possibility or heartbreak of failure or the serious struggles that one may have to endure to achieve his dreams. It says nothing about sacrifice or hard work. It really doesn't sound any more epic than a kid bragging to his friends that he was right about something and they were wrong. The fact that one person even mentioned Martin Luther King Jr. in relation to that speech is just a travesty... As for hi-jacking a broadcast and speaking his mind in front of many viewers? It's been done... see Kanye West. | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On November 13 2010 22:37 ace246 wrote: Professional Atheletes are the exact same. I mean, Tiger Woods makes >100 mil a year in endorsements for hitting a white ball into a hole 18 times/day. Yes, he does have charitable contributions, yet dont overlook the massive write off he can receive for his taxes. I play golf and used to play others so I am not hating on sports. Just saying, the same thing applies. Professional athletes get paid alot and truely do not contribute to their community whilst doing their work. Guys, you have to realise that butchji is right for the wrong reasons. Someone like a lawyer, ceo or anyother high class career gets high pay because THEY ACTUALLY MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY. I don't think its right to say that someone "wasted" their life because they aren't doing something which has high salary like progaming which doesn't have large paychecks (unless your one of the best) but because for what its worth, its a game, it doesn't save people's lives or help lives (unless you consider gaming as helping lives). But just because butchji's reason is wrong, doesn't mean progamers are as deserving of respect like doctors, lawyers, etc. A game is still a game, lets not overrate it please. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On November 13 2010 21:49 LyRa wrote: My mother was behind me listening to it, and i looked at her. Oh dear I hope you like writing coz I'd like to read a blog entry around this. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On November 14 2010 00:08 newcccp wrote: thx for the final spoiler a) the title is spoilertagged... b) dont visit forums if you didnt watch games live. | ||
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Eleclight
Finland70 Posts
On November 14 2010 01:01 clickrush wrote: a) the title is spoilertagged... It actually wasn't until a while ago. | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
Stop being such haters for the sake of hating. | ||
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corpsepose
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Grettin
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Applecakes
Australia319 Posts
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