EPT[Spoilers] Junkka's Epic Speech - Page 11
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m4rtini
Norway30 Posts
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
[€dit] I have a job that pays well, and I absolutely hate every moment. I wish I could just quit this stupid desk job and focus on things that would make me happy. But the world isn't made to please my sense of purpose  . | ||
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SgtMuffins
United States37 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:36 ace246 wrote: Yeah sakarabu is right, for those of you who keep fighting about what is a "wasted life", "money isn't everything" etc, its off topic and also a good word of advice: arguing over those issues or any other existentialism contruct for that matter will get you nowhere ( the arab-israeli conflict is a good example). Regarding Junkka's so-called "epic" speech, its too clique and too overrated, therefore this thread should be closed, or completely deleted if possible, i feel like an idiot for even writing in this thread ( damn you Junkka). It's not really off topic, actually. And why would it get you nowhere? That seems a bold claim. I'd think that an epiphany concerning your life philosophy would be very impactful. A lot of people do subscribe to the default social narrative of "success" without any real thought about why - and that was the point of the speech, I think. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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aLt)nirvana
Singapore846 Posts
because for every nestea out there, there are 1,000 kids who followed their dreams and played their asses off against their parents wishes and every non gaming person they knew but got very little to show out of it. so i think there should be a small addition in front of the speech like "if you had the rare talent (like insanely good like boxer/nada level) then you should follow your dreams... and on the other spectrum play because you enjoy the game but dont make it your life but then again even top level players like naniwa (who got kicked out of home for playing too much games, then got kicked out of clan for his manners ended up with so little ). So imagine all the 1000wins 1000loses ladder players you see every now and then | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:48 Pandain wrote: Who is junkka and when did he give his epic speach He's John, the translator for the post-game interviews, and he does other translation stuff and lots of behind the scenes stuff especially for the English speaking GSL community, like communicating stuff to Tasteless and Artosis, engaging with the community etc. He gave the speech after the GSL2 finals were over, and after translating some of the post-match Korean interviews, when the Korean commentators were talking about random crap. http://twitter.com/junkka83 | ||
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Punkstar
Slovakia522 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:48 Licmyobelisk wrote: damn that made me shed a tear... this, reminded me of day 9 daily ep.100... | ||
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Dr. Nick
Australia36 Posts
Grow up people, this guy has a passion, a passion I also have, and alot of people on this forum have, so get over it. If I died tomorrow I would die happy and defiantly not have a wasted life. Chill the fuck out, and play some SC2. | ||
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mGMUSE
Singapore112 Posts
do what you really love to do | ||
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ace246
Australia360 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:43 SgtMuffins wrote: It's not really off topic, actually. And why would it get you nowhere? That seems a bold claim. I'd think that an epiphany concerning your life philosophy would be very impactful. A lot of people do subscribe to the default social narrative of "success" without any real thought about why - and that was the point of the speech, I think. Philosophy in general does not contribute to society whatsoever. Since when did philosophers dictate what is right and wrong? Since when did the average joe listened to philosophers? As far as the majority is concerned, they don't care about philosophy because the majority dictates righteousness and the ideals of the majority and the philosophers and other think tanks don't match at all. I mean look at how shit our world is. Thinking that nationalism can coexist with peace, thinking that political madness is rational, thinking that our modern society is better than its predecessor. Really a fucking joke. | ||
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SgtMuffins
United States37 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:49 aLt)nirvana wrote: being a gamer myself, i thought it was a great speech but i still dont agree with what hes saying, and it might wrongly inspire some easily influenced gamers and end up doing more harm then good because for every nestea out there, there are 1,000 kids who followed their dreams and played their asses off against their parents wishes and every non gaming person they knew but got very little to show out of it. so i think there should be a small addition in front of the speech like "if you had the rare talent (like insanely good like boxer/nada level) then you should follow your dreams... and on the other spectrum play because you enjoy the game but dont make it your life but then again even top level players like naniwa (who got kicked out of home for playing too much games, then got kicked out of clan for his manners ended up with so little ). So imagine all the 1000wins 1000loses ladder players you see every now and then I think the message is more broadly applicable. Obviously, yes, esports could not support thousands of kids who just want to play games for a living (not that it's really so easy). However, for those people who are TRULY passionate and are willing to make the sacrifice, they should not hesitate - and that should apply to everything. You shouldn't be trying to become a doctor for the money if you would love being a plumber. If you really want to travel the world, don't indefinitely postpone it so that you can get a better job and a bigger house. | ||
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ThemAcorns
Norway114 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:52 Dr. Nick wrote: rofl, the overreaction to this speech is mind-boggling. Grow up people, this guy has a passion, a passion I also have, and alot of people on this forum have, so get over it. If I died tomorrow I would die happy and defiantly not have a wasted life. Chill the fuck out, and play some SC2. Amen, if you don't agree with him just leave it at that, you don't have to come here saying it's a waste of time and that he's wrong. | ||
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KahunaNui
Spain257 Posts
On November 13 2010 21:47 Xavv wrote: Definitely the most inspirational and heart touching speech I have EVER heard from somebody regarding esports. Nothing is cooler than being proud of what you do and love, and I dont think anybody can put it better than he did. Watch de Daily#100. It's the same thing but it lasts two hours (YEAH, I CRIED, SO WHAT? LOL). I'm so fucking happy for the success of all these people. | ||
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SgtMuffins
United States37 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:53 ace246 wrote: Philosophy in general does not contribute to society whatsoever. Since when did philosophers dictate what is right and wrong? Since when did the average joe listened to philosophers? As far as the majority is concerned, they don't care about philosophy because the majority dictates righteousness and the ideals of the majority and the philosophers and other think tanks don't match at all. I mean look at how shit our world is. Thinking that nationalism can coexist with peace, thinking that political madness is rational, thinking that our modern society is better than its predecessor. Really a fucking joke. You are making the horrible mistake of confusing philosophy and philosophers. Everyone needs to think about their place in the universe and needs to be able to justify the life that they are leading to themselves in order to be satisfied. | ||
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Cloud92684
United States236 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:16 ace246 wrote: I think maybe devoting to gaming will definitely make you happy IN THE SHORT TERMS. But what about when you get to the time in your 30s where you start to get married (if your opting to do so) and have children and getting a job to provide the family? The existence of progaming is new to this world ( around 10~12 years, pretty much when brood war came out). But once you see the modern progamers retiring and trying to live a normal life, then we will get a good idea of how much devotion to games takes its toll on a person's life. But i don't see it being a benefit in the long-terms of one's life. You may not feel that participating in esports is not a contribution to society, but you need to realize and remember all the old pro-gamers who participated when esports was just a fledgling idea. These individuals played the games that they loved and created a sub culture where professional competition through the use of video games could be viewed and enjoyed not just by the competitors but by lots of people worldwide. The tireless efforts of pro-gamers around the world has changed the shape of the future and esports is indeed growing and expanding. We're not just watching starcraft, but tons of the other games out there like fighters, fps, strategy games. And from this emerged sponsors who have found a new source of marketing and revenue as well as many new tournaments emerging which not only creates more exposure, but also allows for the creation of jobs and opportunities for others. You're right that after these pro-gamers retire from gaming that they may need to move to a more normal job to support whatever lifestyle they want to maintain, but the current pro-gamers are doing their part to try and grow e-sports to the point where maybe they will be like professional athletes who can make lots of money during their stint and be able to retire without having to find another job. Then again most pro-athletes will later move on to coaching or commentating which may also be very possible if not already possible in the realm of esports. Expand your thoughts and know that esports has made a firm mark in the culture of the world and it only seems to be growing. People will adjust their perception with time and there will always be those who will criticize you for not taking the safest choice. Those who ignore those voices and move on to do what they love should be commended even if it doesn't work out. Because at least they gave it a shot. | ||
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RaptorZ
United States155 Posts
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FreeRice
Philippines44 Posts
On November 13 2010 23:36 ace246 wrote: Yeah sakarabu is right, for those of you who keep fighting about what is a "wasted life", "money isn't everything" etc, its off topic and also a good word of advice: arguing over those issues or any other existentialism contruct for that matter will get you nowhere ( the arab-israeli conflict is a good example). Regarding Junkka's so-called "epic" speech, its too clique and too overrated, therefore this thread should be closed, or completely deleted if possible, i feel like an idiot for even writing in this thread ( damn you Junkka). This thread went "off topic" when people like you came in and told everyone how to live their lives. On November 13 2010 23:53 ace246 wrote: Philosophy in general does not contribute to society whatsoever. Since when did philosophers dictate what is right and wrong? Since when did the average joe listened to philosophers? As far as the majority is concerned, they don't care about philosophy because the majority dictates righteousness and the ideals of the majority and the philosophers and other think tanks don't match at all. I mean look at how shit our world is. Thinking that nationalism can coexist with peace, thinking that political madness is rational, thinking that our modern society is better than its predecessor. Really a fucking joke. Wow. Someday, I would like to know what it's like to be THIS MAD. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + NesTea won When I haven't watched the finals ;_; Jerk. | ||
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ace246
Australia360 Posts
On November 14 2010 00:00 FreeRice wrote: This thread went "off topic" when people like you came in and told everyone how to live their lives. Wow. Someday, I would like to know what it's like to be THIS MAD. I didnt tell anyone how to live their lives. I was telling people not to get off topic. And im not mad, im dissappointed, that people get off topic and think gaming has its place in our modern society, and how the speech is sooooooo overrated and clique. | ||
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