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MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
October 14 2010 21:45 GMT
#1041
you guys DO know, that the void ray hasnt been nerfed right?

They've been rebalanced.

they are now alot stronger initially vs armored targets, and not just a cheese unit..

and they are alot less overpowered when fully charged against light targets like marines but also armored..

I like this change.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
October 14 2010 21:45 GMT
#1042
I am happy with the T and Z changes.
I can understand the VR damage nerf, but now there is literally no reason to get a fleat becon
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 21:46:56
October 14 2010 21:46 GMT
#1043
On October 15 2010 06:43 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 06:40 vyyye wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:38 KaiserJohan wrote:
I kinda like it all. No more proxy rax cheese TvT either. Also basetrading VR's are stupid; they were OP pwoered up, worthless unpowered.

ZvT will be SO easy... reapers are worthless, you can FE freely now. Just need a few roaches for the hellions, and they cant kite you anymore! Roaches really needed a buff.

I'm sure hellions have range 6? You should still be able to kite before speed kicks in? Not sure if hellions attack is too slow for that though.


Attack range is 5, but the splash can hit as far as 6.65

Beta patch 11


Hellion:
* The range has been increased from 5 to 6.


The splash was always more than 5, but they changed the 'normal' range to 6. I can't recall them changing it back, but it's likely I missed it.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
October 14 2010 21:46 GMT
#1044
On October 15 2010 06:45 Retgery wrote:
I am happy with the T and Z changes.
I can understand the VR damage nerf, but now there is literally no reason to get a fleat becon

If only the fleat beacon unlocked another unit... dam that would be sweet right?
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Psychlone
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada90 Posts
October 14 2010 21:46 GMT
#1045
Yay.

I can now switch from Zerg to Random and fight with Honor!
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
October 14 2010 21:46 GMT
#1046
O boy toss air is gonna be so gimped after this.

9 range vikings + upgradeable armors is fine i guess.

they also gonna get owned from ruptors. vrays needed a change but not like that.

Thors got a huge buff and now they will simply own anything in tvz and tvp.

Zerg got 1 range upgrade for roaches like it will matter vs marauders
Proto_Protoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States495 Posts
October 14 2010 21:47 GMT
#1047
Now we need a ladder reset and im a happy little Blizzfan
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up everytime we do." - Confucius
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 14 2010 21:47 GMT
#1048
Thors got a huge buff and now they will simply own anything in tvz and tvp.


how the hell does this effect Thors in TvZ? 250 mm cannons don't stun Ultras, and Z doesn't have feedback to punish them for having energy
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
October 14 2010 21:48 GMT
#1049
this is CRAP!
increase life of buildings and nerf medvacs AT THE SAME TIME.. WTF
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
October 14 2010 21:48 GMT
#1050
VR charged is doing dps of 2 stimed marines, to bad its not 100 minerals, but 250/150...
iloevrsg
Profile Joined October 2009
128 Posts
October 14 2010 21:48 GMT
#1051
Why didn't they just remove reapers?
blitzkrieger
Profile Joined September 2010
United States512 Posts
October 14 2010 21:49 GMT
#1052
On October 15 2010 06:43 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 06:39 Seam wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:35 TFlame wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:04 link0 wrote:
You guys are misreading the VR change. They were massively buffed when uncharged. Damage against armored went from 5 -> 10. This means they are actually useful in a army vs army confrontation.

Has huge implications for P v P.


Lol wow so they now do as much damage as a single stalker - watch out!
Doubling a useless damage output only makes it go from useless to bad.
The only huge implication to pvp is that you will not need to worry about voidrays at all.



Yes, yes, they do as much damage as a stalker.

But they also attack Much, much faster.

About 2.5x faster making them more effective dps than stalkers (per mineral) even while uncharged. Awesomesauce glass cannon woot!


Too bad since they need to face the target to attack they probably take 2x as much damage as a stalker if not more due to not being able to kite and they require a bit of tech and time to get. I know when I have a void ray it gets a lot less uptime compared to a stalker.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
October 14 2010 21:49 GMT
#1053
On October 15 2010 06:46 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 06:43 lololol wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:40 vyyye wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:38 KaiserJohan wrote:
I kinda like it all. No more proxy rax cheese TvT either. Also basetrading VR's are stupid; they were OP pwoered up, worthless unpowered.

ZvT will be SO easy... reapers are worthless, you can FE freely now. Just need a few roaches for the hellions, and they cant kite you anymore! Roaches really needed a buff.

I'm sure hellions have range 6? You should still be able to kite before speed kicks in? Not sure if hellions attack is too slow for that though.


Attack range is 5, but the splash can hit as far as 6.65

Beta patch 11

Show nested quote +

Hellion:
* The range has been increased from 5 to 6.


The splash was always more than 5, but they changed the 'normal' range to 6. I can't recall them changing it back, but it's likely I missed it.


There's no retail patch 1.00 change log.
Range was returned to 5 and their upgrades give +1 to light, which was removed during beta.
I'll call Nada.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
October 14 2010 21:49 GMT
#1054
On October 15 2010 06:48 Carras wrote:
this is CRAP!
increase life of buildings and nerf medvacs AT THE SAME TIME.. WTF


hahahahah

i knew there was some terran out there who would actually not understand how imbalanced drops were

thanks for the amusement carras
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
October 14 2010 21:50 GMT
#1055
On October 15 2010 06:47 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
Thors got a huge buff and now they will simply own anything in tvz and tvp.


how the hell does this effect Thors in TvZ? 250 mm cannons don't stun Ultras, and Z doesn't have feedback to punish them for having energy


o rly how many thor 250mm cannons have seen lately cause players didnt bother upgrade at all.


Second the thor ownage started with ultra aoe nerf this is just the cherry in the cake.

in tvp they just unstopable now
Cloak
Profile Joined October 2009
United States816 Posts
October 14 2010 21:50 GMT
#1056
The VR thing is a nerf. Don't think for a second this'll make Void Rays good at anything. It's the equivalent of nerfing Seige mode damage by 35% and then buffin Tank mode a little. At list you suck less when you're caught out of position. Too bad we destroyed your primary use.
The more you know, the less you understand.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 14 2010 21:50 GMT
#1057
On October 15 2010 06:49 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 06:46 vyyye wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:43 lololol wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:40 vyyye wrote:
On October 15 2010 06:38 KaiserJohan wrote:
I kinda like it all. No more proxy rax cheese TvT either. Also basetrading VR's are stupid; they were OP pwoered up, worthless unpowered.

ZvT will be SO easy... reapers are worthless, you can FE freely now. Just need a few roaches for the hellions, and they cant kite you anymore! Roaches really needed a buff.

I'm sure hellions have range 6? You should still be able to kite before speed kicks in? Not sure if hellions attack is too slow for that though.


Attack range is 5, but the splash can hit as far as 6.65

Beta patch 11


Hellion:
* The range has been increased from 5 to 6.


The splash was always more than 5, but they changed the 'normal' range to 6. I can't recall them changing it back, but it's likely I missed it.


There's no retail patch 1.00 change log.
Range was returned to 5 and their upgrades give +1 to light, which was removed during beta.

Huh, thanks for clearing that up, had no idea.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 14 2010 21:51 GMT
#1058
On October 15 2010 06:44 adeezy wrote:
IF this came out before TLOs ro32 match he woulda went farrrrrr


Idra, too. Both of the "unique timing rush" they lost to got nerfed.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
October 14 2010 21:51 GMT
#1059
On October 15 2010 06:50 Cloak wrote:
The VR thing is a nerf. Don't think for a second this'll make Void Rays good at anything. It's the equivalent of nerfing Seige mode damage by 35% and then buffin Tank mode a little. At list you suck less when you're caught out of position. Too bad we destroyed your primary use.


Wrong.

User was temp banned for this post.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 21:58:43
October 14 2010 21:52 GMT
#1060
WOW huge changes! Mech may be a little stronger vs. protoss now..

Cant wait to try out this Roach range.

Im pretty happy that its out tho!
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