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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 14 2010 21:22 GMT
#981
The reason the voidray nerf is stupid, is because voids are SUPPOSE to be the unit that takes out things like BCs... Honestly, who cares about voids being the counter to corruptors or vikings?? Voids are there to take out the big units, thats why charge was put in the game in the first place. Now, voids are just another generic crappy unit that is NOWHERE near worth 250min/150gas..

Congrats blizz, you essentially made the SC2 Scout.

(anyone who thinks this VR nerf is a good idea, is clearly a terran player.. Nony's comments said it best, and clearly Nony is a reputable person in terms of balance.)


Nobody used Voids to counter capital ships. They weren't even used in armies, except when massed in team games.

Their sole purpose was as a proxy and cheese unit. They were SO useless without charge, and SO nasty with charge, that everything they did was based around precharging them at all cost, which made them essentially useless as part of your normal army.

I think the damage changes to Voids were smart. However, I think if they're transitioning them into a unit to be used with the rest of your army, giving them back their longer range would be great.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Goliathsorrow
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy317 Posts
October 14 2010 21:22 GMT
#982
On October 15 2010 06:16 rastaban wrote:
STOP THE PRESSES - I just realized that Blizzard is a huge fan of TLO. They baracks before depot because he lost to cheese,and then they make the Thor have no NRG. Listen to him on the podcast, he had taken to EMPing his own Thors. Blizzard knew that was his two weaknesses, by remedying them he is certain to take the GSL.

Conspiracy!!!
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
October 14 2010 21:22 GMT
#983
OH NOES THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

TL forums are pathetic after a patch. Just pathetic. Let's, I don't know, play the game before making drastic, drama-queen blanket statements. Ok?

Excited to ladder tonight. GL to all.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Louisduda90
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9 Posts
October 14 2010 21:23 GMT
#984
Can we please change this from (Patch 1.1.2 Notes) to "WHINING" thread please. Terran lost one out of 50 harass builds, I play Terran and I am not crying like half the people here.
Hello Ladies
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 14 2010 21:23 GMT
#985
This whole patch just feels so rushed and not well thought out at all. They should've waited at least 2 or 3 more weeks, see how things develop.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
October 14 2010 21:24 GMT
#986
Remember the days where we got to choose our own style of play? Now because people cry blizzard is making Forcing us to to play a specific way... Soon they will release a patch that will use AI to play for us.. Yipeeeee
link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 21:25:14
October 14 2010 21:24 GMT
#987
Some kids really fail at reading. Once again, VRs were actually buffed in normal situations. +100% uncharged damage to armored. +20% uncharged damage to light.
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Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
October 14 2010 21:24 GMT
#988
On October 15 2010 06:20 staxringold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 06:12 Bosu wrote:
I have no problem with reapers being nerfed to being worthless. Not sure if supply depot requirement is the way to do it, but whatever. I'll see how it plays out.


Any worthless unit should be a worry.


You can still use it for some mid-game expansion harass.

It's got about as much use as the Mothership atm, I'd say. As in, very situational.
Vespasian
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania44 Posts
October 14 2010 21:24 GMT
#989
sad Blizzard
Terrible Terrbile Damage!
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 21:27:12
October 14 2010 21:24 GMT
#990
Looks like Void Rays will never be used again.

I'd like to see how a Protoss could ever begin to deal with small-medium numbers of BC's or Carriers...

Good to see the units no one really complains about getting nerfed while the units people do complain about are being left alone.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 14 2010 21:25 GMT
#991
Remember the days where we got to choose our own style of play? Now because people cry blizzard is making Forcing us to to play a specific way... Soon they will release a patch that will use AI to play for us.. Yipeeeee


Removing one Terran cheese is not forcing you to play a specific way. Don't be such a baby.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
kasumimi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Greece460 Posts
October 14 2010 21:25 GMT
#992
Don't void rays have 3 levels of charge? If yes then why there are only 2 in the patch notes?
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
October 14 2010 21:25 GMT
#993
On October 15 2010 06:22 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
The reason the voidray nerf is stupid, is because voids are SUPPOSE to be the unit that takes out things like BCs... Honestly, who cares about voids being the counter to corruptors or vikings?? Voids are there to take out the big units, thats why charge was put in the game in the first place. Now, voids are just another generic crappy unit that is NOWHERE near worth 250min/150gas..

Congrats blizz, you essentially made the SC2 Scout.

(anyone who thinks this VR nerf is a good idea, is clearly a terran player.. Nony's comments said it best, and clearly Nony is a reputable person in terms of balance.)


Nobody used Voids to counter capital ships. They weren't even used in armies, except when massed in team games.

Their sole purpose was as a proxy and cheese unit. They were SO useless without charge, and SO nasty with charge, that everything they did was based around precharging them at all cost, which made them essentially useless as part of your normal army.

I think the damage changes to Voids were smart. However, I think if they're transitioning them into a unit to be used with the rest of your army, giving them back their longer range would be great.

Have you ever played any PvZs? It was able to harass, bust queens, pursue overlords and defend against roaches.
greycubed
Profile Joined May 2010
United States615 Posts
October 14 2010 21:25 GMT
#994
WOOOO

I Quit laddering after 1.1, but I'm back baby.
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some_pro
Profile Joined October 2010
120 Posts
October 14 2010 21:26 GMT
#995
Hey guys, are these the battle.net forums ?
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 14 2010 21:26 GMT
#996
Question - Will these changes be applies to GSL2?

HypertonicHydroponic
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
437 Posts
October 14 2010 21:26 GMT
#997
On October 15 2010 05:56 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 05:49 Qwizzyx wrote:
why not just remove feedback from the game?
*pissed*
another toss-nerfing patch -_-'


Feedback is suposed to damage casters, but Thor and Corruptor aren't really a casters. They just have their useless abilites and tons of energy which makes them so vulnerable to feedback.

Feedback should be used on infestors & ghosts who are the real casters.

I think that's very good move by Blizz.


Banshee is not a caster. As I have said earlier in the thread, I think the energy ought to remain on the thor for feedback, but make the ability useful (moreso than just being decent against immortals) so terran actually has a chance to use the energy so the it is not a completely one sided issue.

Corruptors, I think I like making it a cooldown ability, but not thors.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23448 Posts
October 14 2010 21:27 GMT
#998
Stalkers can still easily kite roaches without speed.
Stalkers already couldn't kite roaches with a lower dmg per hit and slower speed when roaches had speed upgrade. Roaches actually hard counter blink stalkers really hard. Never bothered getting hydras because he can just hasuobs you. Roaches are faster, and allow you to retreat.
Adding infestors make it even more sick because he just can't micro at all.
aka Teutonica
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
October 14 2010 21:27 GMT
#999
One more thing I just realized and that I really LOVE about the patch is that Blizz released it BEFORE GSL2 starts!!!!
I hated the patch release during GSL1 so far into the tournament!
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
greycubed
Profile Joined May 2010
United States615 Posts
October 14 2010 21:28 GMT
#1000
On October 15 2010 06:26 some_pro wrote:
Hey guys, are these the battle.net forums ?
dance with me somepro dance with me
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