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The reason the voidray nerf is stupid, is because voids are SUPPOSE to be the unit that takes out things like BCs... Honestly, who cares about voids being the counter to corruptors or vikings?? Voids are there to take out the big units, thats why charge was put in the game in the first place. Now, voids are just another generic crappy unit that is NOWHERE near worth 250min/150gas..
Congrats blizz, you essentially made the SC2 Scout.
(anyone who thinks this VR nerf is a good idea, is clearly a terran player.. Nony's comments said it best, and clearly Nony is a reputable person in terms of balance.)
Nobody used Voids to counter capital ships. They weren't even used in armies, except when massed in team games.
Their sole purpose was as a proxy and cheese unit. They were SO useless without charge, and SO nasty with charge, that everything they did was based around precharging them at all cost, which made them essentially useless as part of your normal army.
I think the damage changes to Voids were smart. However, I think if they're transitioning them into a unit to be used with the rest of your army, giving them back their longer range would be great.
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On October 15 2010 06:16 rastaban wrote: STOP THE PRESSES - I just realized that Blizzard is a huge fan of TLO. They baracks before depot because he lost to cheese,and then they make the Thor have no NRG. Listen to him on the podcast, he had taken to EMPing his own Thors. Blizzard knew that was his two weaknesses, by remedying them he is certain to take the GSL. Conspiracy!!!
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OH NOES THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
TL forums are pathetic after a patch. Just pathetic. Let's, I don't know, play the game before making drastic, drama-queen blanket statements. Ok?
Excited to ladder tonight. GL to all.
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Can we please change this from (Patch 1.1.2 Notes) to "WHINING" thread please. Terran lost one out of 50 harass builds, I play Terran and I am not crying like half the people here.
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This whole patch just feels so rushed and not well thought out at all. They should've waited at least 2 or 3 more weeks, see how things develop.
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Remember the days where we got to choose our own style of play? Now because people cry blizzard is making Forcing us to to play a specific way... Soon they will release a patch that will use AI to play for us.. Yipeeeee
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Some kids really fail at reading. Once again, VRs were actually buffed in normal situations. +100% uncharged damage to armored. +20% uncharged damage to light.
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On October 15 2010 06:20 staxringold wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 06:12 Bosu wrote: I have no problem with reapers being nerfed to being worthless. Not sure if supply depot requirement is the way to do it, but whatever. I'll see how it plays out. Any worthless unit should be a worry.
You can still use it for some mid-game expansion harass.
It's got about as much use as the Mothership atm, I'd say. As in, very situational.
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Looks like Void Rays will never be used again.
I'd like to see how a Protoss could ever begin to deal with small-medium numbers of BC's or Carriers...
Good to see the units no one really complains about getting nerfed while the units people do complain about are being left alone.
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Remember the days where we got to choose our own style of play? Now because people cry blizzard is making Forcing us to to play a specific way... Soon they will release a patch that will use AI to play for us.. Yipeeeee
Removing one Terran cheese is not forcing you to play a specific way. Don't be such a baby.
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Don't void rays have 3 levels of charge? If yes then why there are only 2 in the patch notes?
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On October 15 2010 06:22 awesomoecalypse wrote:Show nested quote +The reason the voidray nerf is stupid, is because voids are SUPPOSE to be the unit that takes out things like BCs... Honestly, who cares about voids being the counter to corruptors or vikings?? Voids are there to take out the big units, thats why charge was put in the game in the first place. Now, voids are just another generic crappy unit that is NOWHERE near worth 250min/150gas..
Congrats blizz, you essentially made the SC2 Scout.
(anyone who thinks this VR nerf is a good idea, is clearly a terran player.. Nony's comments said it best, and clearly Nony is a reputable person in terms of balance.) Nobody used Voids to counter capital ships. They weren't even used in armies, except when massed in team games. Their sole purpose was as a proxy and cheese unit. They were SO useless without charge, and SO nasty with charge, that everything they did was based around precharging them at all cost, which made them essentially useless as part of your normal army. I think the damage changes to Voids were smart. However, I think if they're transitioning them into a unit to be used with the rest of your army, giving them back their longer range would be great. Have you ever played any PvZs? It was able to harass, bust queens, pursue overlords and defend against roaches.
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WOOOO
I Quit laddering after 1.1, but I'm back baby.
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Hey guys, are these the battle.net forums ?
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Question - Will these changes be applies to GSL2?
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On October 15 2010 05:56 Alpina wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 05:49 Qwizzyx wrote: why not just remove feedback from the game? *pissed* another toss-nerfing patch -_-' Feedback is suposed to damage casters, but Thor and Corruptor aren't really a casters. They just have their useless abilites and tons of energy which makes them so vulnerable to feedback. Feedback should be used on infestors & ghosts who are the real casters. I think that's very good move by Blizz.
Banshee is not a caster. As I have said earlier in the thread, I think the energy ought to remain on the thor for feedback, but make the ability useful (moreso than just being decent against immortals) so terran actually has a chance to use the energy so the it is not a completely one sided issue.
Corruptors, I think I like making it a cooldown ability, but not thors.
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Stalkers can still easily kite roaches without speed. Stalkers already couldn't kite roaches with a lower dmg per hit and slower speed when roaches had speed upgrade. Roaches actually hard counter blink stalkers really hard. Never bothered getting hydras because he can just hasuobs you. Roaches are faster, and allow you to retreat. Adding infestors make it even more sick because he just can't micro at all.
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One more thing I just realized and that I really LOVE about the patch is that Blizz released it BEFORE GSL2 starts!!!! I hated the patch release during GSL1 so far into the tournament!
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On October 15 2010 06:26 some_pro wrote: Hey guys, are these the battle.net forums ? dance with me somepro dance with me
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