EPTpretty sweet
Gonna test some more
Patch 1.1.2 Notes - Page 19
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Hycer
Thailand5 Posts
pretty sweet Gonna test some more | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
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Burban
48 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:57 PlaGuE_R wrote: Thor energy gone? wtf do i do vs mech now that Templars are less viable? If only you had a unit that can kill thor in 8 shots (without any upgrades) Oh shit, you actually have one. | ||
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wolfe
United States761 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote: No because you will never catch a colossus with a thor. lol, until that make the thor FLYY | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:58 klauz619 wrote: 45dps for a 3 food unit is rather excessive. This issue has nothing to do with supply cost. | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:58 klauz619 wrote: 45dps for a 3 food unit is rather excessive. If you value minerals and gas the same for simplicity sake even though gas is more expensive how much dps do 10 marines do? and stimmed? | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
It's still just another band-aid over larger problems in the game, but we've got 2 expansions for that. As far as simple "balance" goes it should be really good. And it's a patch that reduces early rushes too, I like that. | ||
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imyzhang
Canada809 Posts
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
Even low level players could stop void rays if they were scouted by building marines/more queens. Instead, I feel Blizzard is babying us-- Making void rays useless; what are their roles now ? They are hardly a cost-effective purchase in any situation. Proxy void rays, proxy reapers, are now basically eliminated from the game. Even though it annoyed me when I lost to a proxied 8 rax reaper build, I always told myself I should have opened safer. Now players don't even have to check for proxy barracks. No joke, I actually felt cool when I checked for proxies at the beginning of games on a 1v1 map. It felt like an extra-safe but high-level check. Now, it's something that can't happen. It wasn't extremely difficult to stop proxy barracks. In fact, it wasn't very hard at all. It just required a safe opening and a good scout. Dropships? Sure, they were frustrating but players learned to put overlords, pylons, and depots on the edges of their bases to spot for them. People dealt with them. Mutalisks, phoenixes, and vikings with control of the skies shut them down. I don't understand the need for such a strong nerf. It feels like we're being babied. That's really how I feel. Welcomed changes are the Thor/Corrupter changes. Those feel like a High Templar nerf, but it actually makes Thors more viable in TvP, where they currently aren't (except in early game with SCV surround repair, but that's a different issue entirely). I welcome also the roach range increase. As it is now, roaches are practically a "let's scrape by for now" unit until they are upgraded. Lastly, I'm glad the phoenix bug is fixed. That was a nightmare. I hope Blizzard releases less and less patches as time goes on. Let us play the game, figure things out, and make changes less often. So many changes have been made in less than two months that I can't even imagine what the game will be like this time next year. Sometimes I wonder why we had a beta phase. I feel like we're still in it sometimes. Getting on my MLG flight in 30 minutes. Let's see how this patch pans out tomorrow. | ||
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nforce
Bulgaria116 Posts
/goes to mass stalker early on in case of roaches only to be raped by speedling w/ or w/o infestor later on. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 15 2010 04:00 Champ24 wrote: Oh $hit, I didn't see that. I have no idea. P's anti-air is fairly weak right now. Phoenix has their place, but it's more of a hybrid anti-air and harassment tool than strictly anti-air. Protoss is inherently ahead when u build corruports because u waste a lot of supply on a unit that is only good for dealing with collosus. Watch nexgenius reps, protoss will be fine for sure. | ||
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Phrencys
Canada270 Posts
VR nerf was totally uncalled for, and buffing the level1 charge means that pre-charging on your own stuff will be even more costly, and make even charging on opponents that much harder. VR mechanic went from "interesting" to "gimmicky". And nerfing Flux Vanes by half while keeping it at 150/150 ? Protoss have no counter to corruptors now that they cannot be FB'd, and only now has Immortals to deal with Thors. I can't believe the Depot>Barracks retarded change made it live. It's one thing to delay reapers (and nitro reapers even more) but to totally destroy any Terran cheese threat? Again, uncalled for. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
yet again Blizzard seems to be ignorant about team balance affecting 1v1 play :s I feel sad for Protoss today. | ||
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Drathmar
United States160 Posts
All they have to do is take the animation from the WoW pet >>. | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:59 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Which is dumb because Void Ray charging was one of the coolest things in the game. Nobody should want VR to be used as a standard unit. It'd be just another unit to attack move rather than a unit that requires unique micro/preparation/tactics. My thoughts exactly. I dont like how uncreative blizzard is in the way they try to balance the game... basically dulling things down. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:47 SCdinner wrote: Do you think the 250mm Strike Cannons will be used even less now? Like before the only real benifit was the fact it removed energy that could be feedbacked, now it seems almost entirly useless except for the ability to stun units. it's still a useless ability  it doesn't stun ultras, and it keeps your thor immobile for the duration, and still does less damage than the thor's regular attack overall...http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=159010#1 and the units you would want to stun...like a collosus, are never, ever within the thor's range, so that doesn't matter. And that leaves...more basic units, like stalkers, which...yeaaah...not gonna "stun it" when my thor's main attack will kill it faster. the energy removal was a nice start though...now you can use thors vs protoss without losing half of their HP from 5 apm templar users. zerg is going to be too strong this patch though, versus every race...the roach is back! and reapers now are as useful as the 250mm cannon...lol... medivac nerf is good...it nerfs how easy bio is to use. And indirectly nerfs marauder drops and stuff while keeping high unit lethality still in the game...so that's good. void ray change...dunno about that lol. It'll be nice to not insta-lose to voids anymore. some decent changes...but with things the way they will be from these notes...they can literally remove the reaper+250mm cannon from the game and no one would notice. They still won't be used. | ||
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klauz619
453 Posts
On October 15 2010 04:02 bigjenk wrote: If you value minerals and gas the same for simplicity sake even though gas is more expensive how much dps do 10 marines do? and stimmed? Marines don't fly, they don't move at 3.00, 10 marines also can't compress their body to be as small as a void ray. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:59 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Which is dumb because Void Ray charging was one of the coolest things in the game. Nobody should want VR to be used as a standard unit. It'd be just another unit to attack move rather than a unit that requires unique micro/preparation/tactics. Well you still have to precharge after the patch. | ||
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kXn
254 Posts
Why not make it so that an engineering bay is required for a tech lab / reactor and increase the cost of upgrades. The factory requirement for reaper speed renders it useless... | ||
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