EPTZerg Build Order optimizer. - Page 45
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dmillz
Canada270 Posts
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Ekko
United States72 Posts
 . There was another user that started to create something similar for Protoss, I think his name was Tobias? I don't remember. Maybe you guys could link up? | ||
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dmillz
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Bull-Demon
United States582 Posts
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AndrewZorn
United States56 Posts
The NEW 7rr posted on page 44 (or post #873) looks really interesting. By the way, your program is so awesome. I've been talking about it to friends as if I was summarizing a cool movie or something. I know there's no way my phone (Android) could crunch the numbers efficiently, so this reinspires me to get VNC working... so I can sit around checking build orders between classes. If I may even offer an improvement, yes, I think it would be really nice to have a "lost worker" field, where I can estimate at X seconds a worker is lost to scouting or death. Also, please do NOT impose human error/realism. The times generated by this should be an unobtainable goal used as a reference point. You do not want someone ever beating these times, it would go against its entire nature. | ||
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mehau
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I think you are aware of this, but there is a guy called Incinerate on the US battle.net forums taking credit for the builds your program has come up with. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/902030865 http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/933033955 He "independently" came up with the 7RR (and now a 3RR variant) just a week or so after this thread was started. To validate his claims he changes a few tiny details from the program build and calls it "proof". Looking at the builds, any sane person other than those who don't know of your software, can tell it is not a coincidence. Now you don't sound like a guy who cares much about e-fame, but that does not mean this kind of behaviour should be tolerated. Even a link to this thread would help the people worshipping this douche on US realise he is a fraud. And he is the worst kind - the smug, self-confessed-genius kind. I can't post on US myself, but I'm hoping maybe someone in this thread can take this guy to task. Anyway, keep up the great work. | ||
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
After running it for only 15 mins, requesting 8 speedlings, 5 roaches, + 1 melee, +1 missile, only 6:01. Not bad at all. + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:13 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:24 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:34 M:54 G:0 L:2 S  /10 BuildDrone@0:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:45 M:68 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildExtractor @0:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:55 M:101 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildOverlord@1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:03 M:52 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@1:15 Spawned: Extractor+1 @1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:20 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:20 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:20 M:110 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone @1:20 M:60 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 MineGas @1:20 M:60 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:20 M:10 G:0 L:0 S:12/18 MineGas @1:22 Mining: +1 on gas @1:22 Mining: +1 on gas @1:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:30 M:65 G:12 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:45 M:109 G:33 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:47 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:00 M:175 G:54 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:00 M:125 G:54 L:0 S:15/18 BuildEvolutionChamber @2:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:02 M:64 G:57 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas @2:04 Mining: +1 on gas @2:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:21 M:201 G 3 L:1 S:14/18 BuildSpawningPool@2:28 M:50 G:106 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @2:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:35 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @2:35 M:50 G:119 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:45 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:46 M:78 G:140 L:1 S:15/18 BuildEvolutionChamber @2:52 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:53 M:53 G:153 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @3:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:06 M:105 G:178 L:1 S:15/18 Melee +1 @3:10 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:21 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @3:21 M:130 G:107 L:2 S:15/18 Missile +1 @3:26 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @3:26 M:73 G:16 L:2 S:15/18 BuildDrone @3:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:41 M:152 G:45 L:2 S:16/18 BuildQueen @3:43 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:58 M:157 G:77 L:3 S:18/18 BuildRoachWarren @4:10 M:111 G:100 L:3 S:17/18 Metabolic Boost @4:15 M:54 G L:3 S:17/18 BuildZergling@4:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:30 M:133 G:38 L:3 S:18/18 MineMineral @4:30 M:133 G:38 L:3 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @4:31 Spawned: Queen+1 @4:32 Mining: +1 on mineral @4:39 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:53 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @4:55 Spawned: Overlord+1 @4:55 M:263 G:73 L:3 S:18/26 BuildZergling @4:55 M:213 G:73 L:2 S:19/26 BuildZergling @4:55 M:163 G:73 L:1 S:20/26 BuildOverlord @5:10 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:10 M:202 G 4 L:1 S:20/26 BuildRoach@5:16 Spawned: Larva+4 @5:16 M:182 G:77 L:4 S:22/26 BuildRoach @5:16 M:107 G:52 L:3 S:24/26 BuildRoach @5:19 Spawned: Zergling+2 @5:19 Spawned: Zergling+2 @5:20 Spawned: Overlord+1 @5:21 M:79 G:34 L:2 S:26/34 BuildRoach @5:25 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:33 M:115 G:26 L:2 S:28/34 BuildRoach @5:35 M:58 G:4 L:1 S:30/34 BuildZergling @5:35 M:8 G:4 L:0 S:31/34 MineGas @5:37 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:37 Mining: +1 on gas @5:40 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:40 M:51 G:13 L:1 S:31/34 BuildDrone @5:43 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:43 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:46 Evolved: Melee +1 @5:48 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:55 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:57 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:59 Spawned: Zergling+2 @6:00 Evolved: Metabolic Boost @6:00 Spawned: Roach+1 @6:01 Evolved: Missile +1 @6:01 Spawned: Larva+4 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 48 ---Final Output--- At time: 6:01 Minerals: 184 Gas: 53 Supply: 32/34 Drones: 16 Overlords: 4 Queens: 1 Zerglings: 8 Roaches: 5 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 Evolution Chambers: 2 Melee +1 Missile +1 Metabolic Boost ------------------ Fri Nov 05 09:31:45 EDT 2010: 4046.0804765080075 | ||
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dmillz
Canada270 Posts
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
On November 05 2010 19:34 rbx270j wrote: Edit: I just fixed my problem. After running it for only 15 mins, requesting 8 speedlings, 5 roaches, + 1 melee, +1 missile, only 6:01. Not bad at all. + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:13 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:24 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:34 M:54 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@0:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:45 M:68 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildExtractor @0:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:55 M:101 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildOverlord@1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:03 M:52 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@1:15 Spawned: Extractor+1 @1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:20 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:20 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:20 M:110 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone @1:20 M:60 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 MineGas @1:20 M:60 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:20 M:10 G:0 L:0 S:12/18 MineGas @1:22 Mining: +1 on gas @1:22 Mining: +1 on gas @1:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:30 M:65 G:12 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:37 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:45 M:109 G:33 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:47 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:00 M:175 G:54 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:00 M:125 G:54 L:0 S:15/18 BuildEvolutionChamber @2:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:02 M:64 G:57 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas @2:04 Mining: +1 on gas @2:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:21 M:201 G 3 L:1 S:14/18 BuildSpawningPool@2:28 M:50 G:106 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @2:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:35 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @2:35 M:50 G:119 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:45 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:46 M:78 G:140 L:1 S:15/18 BuildEvolutionChamber @2:52 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:53 M:53 G:153 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @3:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:06 M:105 G:178 L:1 S:15/18 Melee +1 @3:10 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:21 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @3:21 M:130 G:107 L:2 S:15/18 Missile +1 @3:26 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @3:26 M:73 G:16 L:2 S:15/18 BuildDrone @3:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:41 M:152 G:45 L:2 S:16/18 BuildQueen @3:43 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:58 M:157 G:77 L:3 S:18/18 BuildRoachWarren @4:10 M:111 G:100 L:3 S:17/18 Metabolic Boost @4:15 M:54 G L:3 S:17/18 BuildZergling@4:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:30 M:133 G:38 L:3 S:18/18 MineMineral @4:30 M:133 G:38 L:3 S:18/18 BuildOverlord @4:31 Spawned: Queen+1 @4:32 Mining: +1 on mineral @4:39 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:53 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @4:55 Spawned: Overlord+1 @4:55 M:263 G:73 L:3 S:18/26 BuildZergling @4:55 M:213 G:73 L:2 S:19/26 BuildZergling @4:55 M:163 G:73 L:1 S:20/26 BuildOverlord @5:10 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:10 M:202 G 4 L:1 S:20/26 BuildRoach@5:16 Spawned: Larva+4 @5:16 M:182 G:77 L:4 S:22/26 BuildRoach @5:16 M:107 G:52 L:3 S:24/26 BuildRoach @5:19 Spawned: Zergling+2 @5:19 Spawned: Zergling+2 @5:20 Spawned: Overlord+1 @5:21 M:79 G:34 L:2 S:26/34 BuildRoach @5:25 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:33 M:115 G:26 L:2 S:28/34 BuildRoach @5:35 M:58 G:4 L:1 S:30/34 BuildZergling @5:35 M:8 G:4 L:0 S:31/34 MineGas @5:37 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:37 Mining: +1 on gas @5:40 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:40 M:51 G:13 L:1 S:31/34 BuildDrone @5:43 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:43 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:46 Evolved: Melee +1 @5:48 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:55 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:57 Spawned: Drone+1 @5:59 Spawned: Zergling+2 @6:00 Evolved: Metabolic Boost @6:00 Spawned: Roach+1 @6:01 Evolved: Missile +1 @6:01 Spawned: Larva+4 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 48 ---Final Output--- At time: 6:01 Minerals: 184 Gas: 53 Supply: 32/34 Drones: 16 Overlords: 4 Queens: 1 Zerglings: 8 Roaches: 5 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 Evolution Chambers: 2 Melee +1 Missile +1 Metabolic Boost ------------------ Fri Nov 05 09:31:45 EDT 2010: 4046.0804765080075 At the cost of only 5 additional seconds total, I got a Spine down @ 4:30 for some much-needed defense. + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:13 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:24 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:34 M:54 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@0:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:51 M:106 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord @0:54 M:26 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 BuildExtractor @1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:02 M:52 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:16 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:16 M 1 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone@1:18 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:19 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:24 Spawned: Extractor+1 @1:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:30 M:87 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:30 M:37 G:0 L:0 S:13/18 MineGas @1:30 M:37 G:0 L:0 S:13/18 MineGas @1:32 Mining: +1 on gas @1:32 Mining: +1 on gas @1:33 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:35 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:45 M:136 G:19 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:45 M:86 G:19 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas @1:47 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:47 Mining: +1 on gas @2:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:00 M:191 G:47 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:15 M:256 G:76 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone @2:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:19 M:238 G:83 L:0 S:16/18 BuildSpawningPool @2:24 M:77 G 3 L:0 S:15/18 BuildEvolutionChamber@2:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:31 M:52 G:106 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:32 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:45 M:111 G:133 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone @2:48 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:50 M:101 G:142 L:0 S:16/18 BuildEvolutionChamber @2:59 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @3:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:00 M:104 G:161 L:1 S:15/18 Melee +1 @3:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:24 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @3:25 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @3:25 M:217 G:109 L:2 S:15/18 Missile +1 @3:25 M:117 G L:2 S:15/18 BuildZergling@3:25 M:67 G L:1 S:16/18 BuildZergling@3:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:35 M:103 G:28 L:1 S:17/18 BuildSpineCrawler @3:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:49 Spawned: Zergling+2 @3:49 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:13 M:301 G:100 L:3 S:16/18 Metabolic Boost @4:13 M:201 G:0 L:3 S:16/18 BuildRoachWarren @4:13 M:51 G:0 L:3 S:15/18 BuildZergling @4:25 Spawned: Spine Crawler+1 @4:27 M:101 G:26 L:2 S:16/18 BuildOverlord @4:28 Spawned: Larva+1 ---Waypoint 1--- At time: 4:30 Minerals: 22 Gas: 32 Supply: 16/18 Drones: 13 Overlords: 2 Zerglings: 4 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Evolution Chambers: 2 Spine Crawlers: 1 ---------------- @4:34 M:50 G:40 L:2 S:16/18 BuildZergling @4:37 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:43 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:52 Spawned: Overlord+1 @4:58 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:58 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:08 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @5:08 M:242 G:104 L:3 S:17/26 BuildRoach @5:08 M:167 G:79 L:2 S:19/26 BuildRoach @5:08 M 2 G:54 L:1 S:21/26 MineMineral@5:08 M 2 G:54 L:1 S:21/26 BuildRoach@5:10 Mining: +1 on mineral @5:23 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:23 M:134 G:50 L:1 S:23/26 BuildRoach @5:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:38 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:38 M:176 G:46 L:1 S:25/26 ExtractorTrick @5:38 M:151 G:46 L:1 S:24/26 BuildRoach @5:40 Evolved: Melee +1 @5:40 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored @5:50 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:53 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:03 Evolved: Metabolic Boost @6:05 Evolved: Missile +1 @6:05 Spawned: Roach+1 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 52 ---Final Output--- At time: 6:05 Minerals: 307 Gas: 59 Supply: 27/26 Drones: 13 Overlords: 3 Zerglings: 8 Roaches: 5 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 Evolution Chambers: 2 Spine Crawlers: 1 Melee +1 Missile +1 Metabolic Boost ------------------ Fri Nov 05 12:26:37 EDT 2010: 4291.766873803716 | ||
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QwiXXeR
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On November 06 2010 01:55 rbx270j wrote: At the cost of only 5 additional seconds total, I got a Spine down @ 4:30 for some much-needed defense. + Show Spoiler + @0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:13 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:24 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:30 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:34 M:54 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@0:41 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:51 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:51 M:106 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord @0:54 M:26 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 BuildExtractor @1:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:02 M:52 G:0 L:2 S /10 BuildDrone@1:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:16 Spawned: Overlord+1 @1:16 M 1 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone@1:18 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone @1:19 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:24 Spawned: Extractor+1 @1:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:30 M:87 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone @1:30 M:37 G:0 L:0 S:13/18 MineGas @1:30 M:37 G:0 L:0 S:13/18 MineGas @1:32 Mining: +1 on gas @1:32 Mining: +1 on gas @1:33 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:35 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:45 M:136 G:19 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone @1:45 M:86 G:19 L:0 S:14/18 MineGas @1:47 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:47 Mining: +1 on gas @2:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:00 M:191 G:47 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:15 M:256 G:76 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone @2:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:19 M:238 G:83 L:0 S:16/18 BuildSpawningPool @2:24 M:77 G 3 L:0 S:15/18 BuildEvolutionChamber@2:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:31 M:52 G:106 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone @2:32 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @2:45 M:111 G:133 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone @2:48 Spawned: Drone+1 @2:50 M:101 G:142 L:0 S:16/18 BuildEvolutionChamber @2:59 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @3:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:00 M:104 G:161 L:1 S:15/18 Melee +1 @3:02 Spawned: Drone+1 @3:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:24 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 @3:25 Spawned: Evolution Chamber+1 @3:25 M:217 G:109 L:2 S:15/18 Missile +1 @3:25 M:117 G L:2 S:15/18 BuildZergling@3:25 M:67 G L:1 S:16/18 BuildZergling@3:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:35 M:103 G:28 L:1 S:17/18 BuildSpineCrawler @3:45 Spawned: Larva+1 @3:49 Spawned: Zergling+2 @3:49 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:00 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:13 M:301 G:100 L:3 S:16/18 Metabolic Boost @4:13 M:201 G:0 L:3 S:16/18 BuildRoachWarren @4:13 M:51 G:0 L:3 S:15/18 BuildZergling @4:25 Spawned: Spine Crawler+1 @4:27 M:101 G:26 L:2 S:16/18 BuildOverlord @4:28 Spawned: Larva+1 ---Waypoint 1--- At time: 4:30 Minerals: 22 Gas: 32 Supply: 16/18 Drones: 13 Overlords: 2 Zerglings: 4 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Evolution Chambers: 2 Spine Crawlers: 1 ---------------- @4:34 M:50 G:40 L:2 S:16/18 BuildZergling @4:37 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:43 Spawned: Larva+1 @4:52 Spawned: Overlord+1 @4:58 Spawned: Zergling+2 @4:58 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:08 Spawned: Roach Warren+1 @5:08 M:242 G:104 L:3 S:17/26 BuildRoach @5:08 M:167 G:79 L:2 S:19/26 BuildRoach @5:08 M 2 G:54 L:1 S:21/26 MineMineral@5:08 M 2 G:54 L:1 S:21/26 BuildRoach@5:10 Mining: +1 on mineral @5:23 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:23 M:134 G:50 L:1 S:23/26 BuildRoach @5:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:35 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:38 Spawned: Larva+1 @5:38 M:176 G:46 L:1 S:25/26 ExtractorTrick @5:38 M:151 G:46 L:1 S:24/26 BuildRoach @5:40 Evolved: Melee +1 @5:40 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored @5:50 Spawned: Roach+1 @5:53 Spawned: Larva+1 @6:03 Evolved: Metabolic Boost @6:05 Evolved: Missile +1 @6:05 Spawned: Roach+1 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 52 ---Final Output--- At time: 6:05 Minerals: 307 Gas: 59 Supply: 27/26 Drones: 13 Overlords: 3 Zerglings: 8 Roaches: 5 Hatcheries: 1 Gas Extractors: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 Roach Warrens: 1 Evolution Chambers: 2 Spine Crawlers: 1 Melee +1 Missile +1 Metabolic Boost ------------------ Fri Nov 05 12:26:37 EDT 2010: 4291.766873803716 U tried squeezing more drones in that frist waypoint ?, i think you could ? mite reduce the total time | ||
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
On November 05 2010 18:47 mehau wrote: Hi Lomilar, I think you are aware of this, but there is a guy called Incinerate on the US battle.net forums taking credit for the builds your program has come up with. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/902030865 http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/933033955 He "independently" came up with the 7RR (and now a 3RR variant) just a week or so after this thread was started. To validate his claims he changes a few tiny details from the program build and calls it "proof". Looking at the builds, any sane person other than those who don't know of your software, can tell it is not a coincidence. Now you don't sound like a guy who cares much about e-fame, but that does not mean this kind of behaviour should be tolerated. Even a link to this thread would help the people worshipping this douche on US realise he is a fraud. And he is the worst kind - the smug, self-confessed-genius kind. I can't post on US myself, but I'm hoping maybe someone in this thread can take this guy to task. Anyway, keep up the great work. In one of the threads, where he outlined the first 7RR w/extractor trick, he is taken to task somewhere in page 8. To be honest, it is the internet. These things happen. In case you are concerned that I am not getting credit, uh... http://lbrandy.com/blog/2010/11/using-genetic-algorithms-to-find-starcraft-2-build-orders/ http://slashdot.org/story/10/11/02/0211249/Developing-emStarCraft-2em-Build-Orders-With-Genetic-Algorithms http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104934-StarCraft-II-Fan-Breaks-the-Competitive-Scene-Using-Evolution http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/11/genetic-algorithms-starcraft/ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dzla4/using_genetic_algorithms_to_find_starcraft_2/ http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/11/02/computer-program-finds-devastating-starcraft-2-build-orders/ The 7RR was supposed to be an example of non-intuitive gameplay leading to end results. I haven't really thought of the build as mine, though I did play it a few times. Undoubtedly, there will be some build orders found by the program that people take credit for. I think they should have credit, because with this, it is less about how you get there, and more about what the build is good/bad at. I do give him props for using it and exploring its advantages, making derivatives of it (7RR all-in) and the videos. No such thing as bad press. | ||
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crw
Canada70 Posts
that's sad what he did | ||
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ConsummateK
United States98 Posts
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dmillz
Canada270 Posts
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montesc2
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
On November 06 2010 04:47 montesc2 wrote: It says that the builds will be saved automatically after hitting the stop button, but all I can find are some files in the "etc" folder, for example seeds.evo . How can I open them?? Doesnt work to open them with the actual program, neither with notepad. v0018 you'll be able to see them, reload them, and delete them. | ||
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montesc2
6 Posts
Keep it up | ||
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Phinix
United States116 Posts
Lomilar, I've got to be honest,... I didn't take you seriously when you first posted this... I'm an IT guy (More SysAdmin and Networking than anything else) who likes to play with Python and other such simple coding things when convenient or when I have a particular interest to pursue,... For some reason, I figured you were another script kiddie who was over-embellishing his creation, probably because I was projecting my own past personality onto you or some such nonsensical psychological reasoning. :-) But, again, Wow,... You have some massive and earnestly respectful Kudos from me now. (Not that I feel my opinion should matter - I just want to express it). For one, build orders produced by your work have upset the community a bit - which I find to be a total credit to your success. :-D *thumbsup* Furthermore, you're being as humble as Torvalds about all of this! To be honest, it is the internet. These things happen. ...I like this guy,... Seriously,... good work! | ||
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Lomilar
United States130 Posts
The tool still has not been proven at the pro-gamer level, unless I am missing some VODs. On that day, I will be impressed. Even more so if it works. :-) | ||
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Barundar
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