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tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
October 23 2010 17:09 GMT
#541
Mineral collection rates shouldn't be an average at all. They should be a stepping function that increments minerals by 5 every x seconds where x is a function of the number of miners on that base. I'm not sure if that's already being done though since I haven't seen the code.
My vanity is justified
icezar
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany240 Posts
October 23 2010 17:14 GMT
#542
We have prove that 9 OV is best for 13+ pool. This prog does 10OV or extractor trick for pools before 13 that is correct.
Rosvall
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden122 Posts
October 23 2010 17:40 GMT
#543
On October 24 2010 02:14 icezar wrote:
We have prove that 9 OV is best for 13+ pool. This prog does 10OV or extractor trick for pools before 13 that is correct.


Link that proof please
RTP
iluvatoq
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium8 Posts
October 23 2010 17:45 GMT
#544
This program has ben running for 3 straight hours to find out how to get 10 zerglings in 8 min .. i think it's pretty easy to do but ... hmz

I don't know if i do something wrng ... is there a guide for it so i can check it

Greetz iLu
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
October 23 2010 17:50 GMT
#545
On October 24 2010 02:45 iluvatoq wrote:
This program has ben running for 3 straight hours to find out how to get 10 zerglings in 8 min .. i think it's pretty easy to do but ... hmz

I don't know if i do something wrng ... is there a guide for it so i can check it

Greetz iLu


Are you sure it didn't solve it already? It should say "Satisfied" when it completes your orders, but it'll continue running to try to improve the time and resources.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Rosvall
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden122 Posts
October 23 2010 17:55 GMT
#546
The program will Never stop and say "this is the best build order". It will run and run and run and try to improve it. (Well, not really try to improve it... rather spam more mutations in hope one will be better than the current).
RTP
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 18:08:22
October 23 2010 18:02 GMT
#547
I ran it over night (ended with 650 million games played!) to find the fastest 5 BL build. 5 BL in 9:16!

+ Show Spoiler +
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:12 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:23 M:53 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:29 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:32 M:50 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:40 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:49 M:104 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@0:59 M:75 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick
@0:59 M:50 G:0 L:1 S/10 BuildDrone
@1:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:01 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@1:14 Spawned: Overlord+1
@1:14 M:124 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:15 M:81 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@1:16 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:30 M:149 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:30 M9 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 BuildExtractor
@1:31 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:45 M:202 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:51 M:207 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 BuildSpawningPool
@2:00 Spawned: Extractor+1
@2:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:00 M:82 G:1 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@2:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:15 M:138 G:30 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@2:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:30 M:205 G:58 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@2:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:45 M:283 G:87 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@2:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:56 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@3:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:00 M:371 G:115 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:00 M:321 G:115 L:0 S:18/18 BuildLair
@3:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:15 M:319 G:44 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord
@3:15 M:219 G:44 L:0 S:18/18 BuildExtractor
@3:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:30 M:342 G:72 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:40 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:45 Spawned: Extractor+1
@3:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:45 M:439 G:103 L:1 S:18/26 BuildDrone
@3:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:00 M:517 G:160 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@4:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:15 M:605 G:217 L:1 S:20/26 BuildDrone
@4:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:20 Spawned: Lairs+1
@4:20 M:604 G:236 L:0 S:21/26 BuildHatchery
@4:20 M:304 G:236 L:0 S:20/26 BuildInfestationPit
@4:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:30 M:290 G:174 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@4:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:45 M:378 G:231 L:1 S:20/26 BuildDrone
@4:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:00 M:476 G:288 L:1 S:21/26 BuildDrone
@5:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:10 Spawned: Infestation Pit+1
@5:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:15 M:583 G:345 L:1 S:22/26 BuildDrone
@5:15 M:533 G:345 L:0 S:23/26 BuildHive
@5:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:17 M:355 G:202 L:0 S:23/26 BuildSpire
@5:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:30 M:292 G:52 L:1 S:22/26 BuildDrone
@5:30 M:242 G:52 L:0 S:23/26 BuildExtractor
@5:30 M:217 G:52 L:0 S:22/26 BuildExtractor
@5:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:45 M:340 G:109 L:1 S:21/26 BuildDrone
@5:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:00 Spawned: Hatchery+1
@6:00 Spawned: Extractor+1
@6:00 Spawned: Extractor+1
@6:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:00 M:444 G:170 L:2 S:22/28 BuildDrone
@6:00 M:394 G:170 L:1 S:23/28 BuildDrone
@6:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:15 M:453 G:284 L:2 S:24/28 BuildOverlord
@6:15 M:353 G:284 L:1 S:24/28 BuildDrone
@6:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:30 M:430 G:398 L:2 S:25/28 BuildDrone
@6:30 M:380 G:398 L:1 S:26/28 BuildDrone
@6:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:40 Spawned: Overlord+1
@6:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:45 M:468 G:512 L:2 S:27/36 BuildDrone
@6:45 M:418 G:512 L:1 S:28/36 BuildDrone
@6:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:55 Spawned: Hives+1
@6:57 Spawned: Spire+1
@7:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:00 M:525 G:626 L:2 S:29/36 BuildDrone
@7:00 M:475 G:626 L:1 S:30/36 BuildDrone
@7:00 M:425 G:626 L:0 S:31/36 BuildGreaterSpire
@7:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:15 M:503 G:590 L:2 S:31/36 BuildDrone
@7:15 M:453 G:590 L:1 S:32/36 BuildDrone
@7:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:30 M:604 G:704 L:2 S:33/36 BuildCorruptor
@7:30 M:454 G:604 L:1 S:35/36 BuildOverlord
@7:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:55 Spawned: Overlord+1
@7:55 M:726 G:794 L:2 S:35/44 BuildCorruptor
@7:55 M:576 G:694 L:1 S:37/44 BuildCorruptor
@8:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:00 M:501 G:632 L:2 S:39/44 BuildCorruptor
@8:00 M:351 G:532 L:1 S:41/44 BuildCorruptor
@8:10 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@8:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:15 M:425 G:546 L:2 S:43/44 BuildDrone
@8:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@8:35 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@8:35 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@8:40 Spawned: Greater Spire+1
@8:40 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@8:40 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@8:40 M:755 G:736 L:3 S:44/44 BuildBroodLord
@8:40 M:605 G:586 L:3 S:44/44 BuildBroodLord
@8:40 M:455 G:436 L:3 S:44/44 BuildBroodLord
@8:40 M:305 G:286 L:3 S:44/44 BuildBroodLord
@8:42 M:187 G:151 L:3 S:44/44 BuildBroodLord
@8:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:46 M:100 G:31 L:5 S:44/44 BuildOverlord
@9:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@9:11 Spawned: Overlord+1
@9:14 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@9:14 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@9:14 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@9:14 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@9:16 Spawned: Brood Lord+1


For a safer build I can get 5 brood lords, 6muta and 6lings in 11:51 ( stopped this one early though since I wanted to experiment more).

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@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:43 M:202 G:0 L:3 S:7/10 BuildSpawningPool
@0:55 M:54 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@1:06 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@1:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:17 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@1:22 M:27 G:0 L:1 S/10 BuildExtractor
@1:23 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:32 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@1:34 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:41 M:51 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@1:48 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@1:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:52 Spawned: Extractor+1
@1:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:58 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:00 M:100 G:17 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@2:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:25 Spawned: Overlord+1
@2:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:25 M:124 G:64 L:3 S:10/18 BuildZergling
@2:25 M:74 G:64 L:2 S:11/18 BuildZergling
@2:31 M:53 G:76 L:1 S:12/18 BuildZergling
@2:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:41 M:53 G5 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@2:49 Spawned: Zergling+2
@2:49 Spawned: Zergling+2
@2:55 Spawned: Zergling+2
@2:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:55 M:72 G:121 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@2:58 Spawned: Drone+1
---Waypoint 0---
At time: 3:00
Minerals: 49 Gas: 131 Supply: 15/18
Drones: 11
Overlords: 2
Zerglings: 6
Hatcheries: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
----------------
@3:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:10 M:105 G:150 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@3:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:25 M:149 G:178 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@3:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:33 M:155 G:193 L:0 S:17/18 BuildLair
@3:36 M:27 G9 L:0 S:17/18 BuildExtractor
@3:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:42 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:44 M:55 G:114 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@3:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:55 M:83 G:135 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@4:01 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:06 Spawned: Extractor+1
@4:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:10 M:136 G:173 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord
@4:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:35 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:35 M:194 G:268 L:1 S:18/26 BuildDrone
@4:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:40 M:175 G:287 L:1 S:19/26 BuildDrone
@4:52 Spawned: Drone+1
@4:53 Spawned: Lairs+1
@4:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:55 M:224 G:344 L:1 S:20/26 BuildDrone
@4:57 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:10 M:291 G:401 L:1 S:21/26 BuildDrone
@5:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:25 M:369 G:458 L:1 S:22/26 BuildDrone
@5:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:27 M:337 G:466 L:0 S:23/26 BuildInfestationPit
@5:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:40 M:349 G:415 L:1 S:22/26 BuildDrone
@5:42 Spawned: Drone+1
@5:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:55 M:437 G:472 L:1 S:23/26 BuildDrone
@5:57 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:10 M:534 G:529 L:1 S:24/26 BuildDrone
@6:10 M:484 G:529 L:0 S:25/26 BuildHatchery
@6:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:12 M:204 G:537 L:0 S:24/26 BuildSpire
@6:17 Spawned: Infestation Pit+1
@6:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:25 M:124 G:386 L:1 S:23/26 BuildOverlord
@6:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@6:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:43 M:201 G:455 L:1 S:23/26 BuildHive
@6:48 M:51 G:324 L:1 S:23/26 BuildDrone
@6:50 Spawned: Overlord+1
@6:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:55 M:70 G:350 L:1 S:24/34 BuildDrone
@7:05 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:10 M:173 G:407 L:1 S:25/34 BuildDrone
@7:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:25 M:290 G:464 L:1 S:26/34 BuildDrone
@7:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:40 M:411 G:521 L:1 S:27/34 BuildDrone
@7:40 M:361 G:521 L:0 S:28/34 BuildExtractor
@7:42 Spawned: Drone+1
@7:50 Spawned: Hatchery+1
@7:52 Spawned: Spire+1
@7:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@7:55 M:510 G:578 L:2 S:27/36 BuildDrone
@7:55 M:460 G:578 L:1 S:28/36 BuildDrone
@7:57 Spawned: Drone+1
@8:10 Spawned: Extractor+1
@8:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:10 M:597 G:637 L:2 S:29/36 BuildOverlord
@8:10 M:497 G:637 L:1 S:29/36 BuildExtractor
@8:10 M:472 G:637 L:1 S:28/36 BuildMutalisk
@8:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@8:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@8:23 Spawned: Hives+1
@8:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:25 M:539 G:623 L:2 S:30/36 BuildMutalisk
@8:25 M:439 G:523 L:1 S:32/36 BuildGreaterSpire
@8:25 M:339 G:373 L:1 S:32/36 BuildOverlord
@8:35 Spawned: Overlord+1
@8:40 Spawned: Extractor+1
@8:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:40 M:405 G:460 L:2 S:32/44 BuildMutalisk
@8:40 M:305 G:360 L:1 S:34/44 BuildMutalisk
@8:43 Spawned: Mutalisk+1
@8:50 Spawned: Overlord+1
@8:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@8:55 M:344 G:374 L:2 S:36/52 BuildDrone
@8:55 M:294 G:374 L:1 S:37/52 BuildMutalisk
@8:58 Spawned: Mutalisk+1
@9:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@9:10 M:333 G:388 L:2 S:39/52 BuildDrone
@9:10 M:283 G:388 L:1 S:40/52 BuildMutalisk
@9:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@9:13 Spawned: Mutalisk+1
@9:13 Spawned: Mutalisk+1
@9:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@9:25 M:331 G:402 L:2 S:42/52 BuildCorruptor
@9:25 M:181 G:302 L:1 S:44/52 BuildCorruptor
@9:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@9:28 Spawned: Mutalisk+1
@9:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@9:40 M:188 G:316 L:2 S:46/52 BuildCorruptor
@9:43 Spawned: Mutalisk+1
@9:51 M:154 G:300 L:1 S:48/52 BuildCorruptor
@9:55 Spawned: Larva+1
---Waypoint 1---
At time: 10:00
Minerals: 99 Gas: 268 Supply: 50/52
Drones: 27
Overlords: 6
Zerglings: 6
Mutalisks: 6
Hatcheries: 1
Hives: 1
Gas Extractors: 4
Spawning Pools: 1
Infestation Pit: 1
----------------
@10:05 Spawned: Greater Spire+1
@10:05 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@10:05 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@10:05 M:152 G:306 L:2 S:50/52 BuildCorruptor
@10:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@10:19 M:150 G:312 L:3 S:52/52 BuildBroodLord
@10:20 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@10:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@10:31 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@10:34 M:158 G:276 L:5 S:52/52 BuildBroodLord
@10:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@10:45 Spawned: Corruptor+1
@10:48 M:156 G:233 L:6 S:52/52 BuildBroodLord
@10:53 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@11:02 M:153 G:189 L:6 S:52/52 BuildBroodLord
@11:08 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@11:17 M:162 G:153 L:6 S:52/52 BuildBroodLord
@11:22 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@11:26 M:106 G:72 L:6 S:52/52 BuildOverlord
@11:36 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@11:41 Spawned: Larva+1
@11:51 Spawned: Brood Lord+1
@11:51 Spawned: Overlord+1
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 67
---Final Output---
At time: 11:51
Minerals: 270 Gas: 262 Supply: 52/60
Drones: 27
Overlords: 7
Zerglings: 6
Mutalisks: 6
Brood Lords: 5
Hatcheries: 1
Hives: 1
Gas Extractors: 4
Spawning Pools: 1
Infestation Pit: 1
Greater Spire: 1
------------------


I tried both in YABOT and was off by only 30-40 seconds (and I have very low apm).




My only request is to have the output in YABOT format for testing. Although its not always possible since there is a 770 char limit on YABOT BOs.
iluvatoq
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium8 Posts
October 23 2010 18:04 GMT
#548
but where can i find those results then ?
FireHazard
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
October 23 2010 18:06 GMT
#549
Thanks so much for releasing this, this is really a lot of fun to play with. Very impressive.
Dikun
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada17 Posts
October 23 2010 18:07 GMT
#550
This is quite interesting o_o is it me or does it also recommend 11 pool
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
October 23 2010 18:08 GMT
#551
On October 24 2010 03:04 iluvatoq wrote:
but where can i find those results then ?


At the right side. Should say things like:
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:12 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:23 M:53 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:29 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:32 M:50 G:0 L:2 S/10 BuildDrone
@0:40 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:49 M:104 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord

M stands for minerals, G stands for gold, S is supply. Spawned is when the unit actually comes out. At the end it'll give you a summary like this:
--Final Output---
At time: 7:48
Minerals: 264 Gas: 102 Supply: 58/58
Drones: 30
Overlords: 7
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 4
Roaches: 8
Hydralisks: 4
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 2
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
Hydralisk Den: 1
Metabolic Boost
Glial Reconstitution
Grooved Spines
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
October 23 2010 18:08 GMT
#552
Quick correction but this is SC2, G is for gas
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
October 23 2010 18:10 GMT
#553
On October 24 2010 01:52 Lomilar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 20:00 redviper wrote:
Also Lomilar great work. The program works really well, has good core utilization and even the interface is nice. Are you a student or a professional developer?


I'm a professional software engineer. I am currently working on research grants for the US's National Science Foundation.

Thanks for the props. I am still skeptical about the interface, but a lot of people like it. :-)


As scientists love saying, "get the fucking interface out of the way" which is how it should be.
iluvatoq
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium8 Posts
October 23 2010 18:12 GMT
#554
I only see on the right side

Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 1
---Final Output---
At time: 0:01
Minerals: 54 Gas: 0 Supply: 6/10
Drones: 6
Overlords: 1
Hatcheries: 1
------------------
Sat Oct 23 16:40:07 CEST 2010: 601.054
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
October 23 2010 18:18 GMT
#555
What are your constraints? It seems like you are not giving it any goals.
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
October 23 2010 18:19 GMT
#556
I have WP0: Zerglings: 1 @ 3:30 and Final: 32 drones 10 roaches 1 hatch 1 lair glial recon. 1 evo and +1 missle @ 7:00 and I keep getting "Failed to meet waypoint: BuildLair" but it already built the lair and researched glial... Should I assume it's trying to make a second lair and let it run longer? I've found that usually it finds a pretty good result in the first minute and then every couple of minutes it may knock it down a second, but I've ran this one for like 6 million and it hasn't found a result.

What's the longest you guys have seen it take to get the first "satisfied" result?

Wouldn't it take far less time if you could set the max number of things? I know I need <=1 spawning pool, roach warren, hatchery, lair, evo chamber, <10 overlords, etc. Is that something that is coming later?
Apologize.
iluvatoq
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium8 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 18:21:23
October 23 2010 18:20 GMT
#557
ON WP0 i set

Drones 15
Queens 1
Zerglings 10
Metabolic boost on
Hatchery 1

But rofl as i read above reply i don't set anything on final .. thats perhaps the reason ?
Utena
Profile Joined August 2010
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 18:27:49
October 23 2010 18:22 GMT
#558
I really love the idea of this. I love evolutionary programming, and this is a really neat idea. I'm actually probably going to download the code again to play with it.

Some notes I've found while running it:

Right now I'm typing in 15 mutalisks, just to see where it gets too. (Lair Rush FTW).

It has 4 extractors on one hatch. This really isn't possible. (Unless Hatches:1 means beyond the first hatch... that must be it.)

Also, I wonder if it might be more efficient if you put some hard rules into the genome. Such as if you ever get more of a building than you need upgrades in it, it's a stop codon, and the build is invalid (My evolution chain had a 3 spawning pool build in it for a long time as the 'best' build.)

Right now it's at:

10 Extractor
10 OL
10 Extractor trick
11 pool
10 lair
17 OL
18 extractor
18 Hatch
19 Spire
20 OL
20 Extractor

Then OLs and Mutas out.


VERY fun idea....

Also, are you looking for any other Java programmers to help out? I would love to contribute some code or whatever if you still want some help.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
October 23 2010 18:26 GMT
#559
Can't be one Hatch. You build the hatch at 18 and 3rd extractor at 20. It might make you build the extractor earlier than your hatch completes so you can immediately move drones to gas.
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 18:36:17
October 23 2010 18:28 GMT
#560
On October 24 2010 01:56 zokj wrote:
Going to give this one a shot..


Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 87
---Final Output---
At time: 9:30
Minerals: 230 Gas: 88 Supply: 73/74
Drones: 28
Overlords: 8
Overseers: 1
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 26
Roaches: 15
Lairs: 1
Gas Extractors: 2
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
Evolution Chambers: 2
Nydus Networks: 1
Nydus Worms: 1
Melee +1
Missile +1
Armor +1
Metabolic Boost
Glial Reconstitution

Very cool program! should just enough to either expand or do two nydus.. think 9m is too late?


Remember it tries to do EXACTLY what you say ASAP. If you say "I want 10 roaches by 6:00" you might get a result like 22 drones and 10 roaches @ 5:59. It then might cancel that result and say "hey I found a better result, 12 drones and 10 roaches @ 5:58". Obviously having 10 more drones and the same number of roaches 1 second later is 100000 times better, but you told it that faster is better and you don't care how many drones there are. That being said, I think you're build could be a lot better if you really think about what to set the constraints as. 10 minutes into the game with 1 hatch and 28 drones is not very good. Try adding another hatch, more drones, or not doing those things and doing it in less time. If you do it in less time, reduce the number of lings and roaches. Also, you finish with 230 minerals. Think about what you can set it to spend them. Add another roach? Add another hatch if you were short of larva. Look at the result, see why you couldn't spend those minerals, and fix it. If you finish with a ton of gas think about why. Did it really need to get the gas so early? If so, is there a way you can spend it? If not, you'll just have to figure out when to pull a guy off gas. You only had like 50 extra gas in your example so no big deal, but if you finish with like 300, you should look into it. I always add "Zerglings:1" @ like 3:30 or early on for scouting purposes. I think that makes it more realistic because nobody is going to let you sit in your base the whole game without a unit.


Apologize.
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