EPT[R] Multiboxing in SC2? - Page 2
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Ruthless
United States492 Posts
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-miDnight-
Taiwan455 Posts
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Bensio
United Kingdom621 Posts
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Z-R0E
United States147 Posts
So with that as a preface, I think it could work in ladder. As someone said earlier, you probably won't get past gold, but who cares. It'd be fun. Even in a custom game, I think it'd be fun to do a 1v1 (or I guess rather 1v2) with the stipulation you have to try and maintain X APM across both accounts (because it would be kind of pointless to just ignore one and playing a normal 1v1). If I had the money to pick up another account I'd probably try it myself. I would definitely start out with playing the same race on both accounts, just one less thing to learn while you're getting used to it. Obviously, share control with yourself after you've sent out your first workers. With shared control, you could use one to keep a look out on a particular area of interest. As for broadcasted keys, I think I would just have 1-0 broadcasted. At first I thought broadcasting more ("making drones on both accounts, yeah!") but I think it would lead to too many accidental things (trying to make drones on one screen, while your selected units stop walking one the other). There's a lot of hotkeyable things that just don't currently have a hotkey mapped to them. I wonder if resource trading is one of them? That would help a lot. If you end up trying this, post on how it goes. I'd be curious. Again, I wouldn't expect any one to come out this with some kind of "sick advantage", but I think it'd be a fun experiment. | ||
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Synk
United States297 Posts
http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Illidan&ts=5&t=Ride the Lightning&select=Ride the Lightning | ||
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telfire
United States415 Posts
On October 11 2010 19:23 sk` wrote: Since you can share control in team games, as long as you could keep up the macro... I guess you could handle the fights. Seems implausible to do well though... in WoW a sub 20 amp is more than competitive. SC2 isn't as forgiving. Why do people spread lies like this to make WoW seem like an easier game than it really is? I mean yeah it's not SC2 level competition but 20 APM? Are you stupid? GCD with haste = 1 second, so if you had 20 apm you would be sitting around not casting for nearly 40 seconds every minute (probably not quite depending on haste), and that doesn't even give you any APM to move around with, or move your camera so you can actually see everything that's going on. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On October 12 2010 00:11 telfire wrote: Why do people spread lies like this to make WoW seem like an easier game than it really is? I mean yeah it's not SC2 level competition but 20 APM? Are you stupid? GCD with haste = 1 second, so if you had 20 apm you would be sitting around not casting for 40 seconds every minute, and that doesn't even give you any APM to move around with, or move your camera so you can actually see everything that's going on. Yes actually the apm in Wow is often higher than in starcraft because of mouvements + jumps + spell/techniques spam, which doesnt mean its hard to do at all. But I think I had more than 400apm in arena with my rogue. And regarding the multiboxing, its just retarded imo to even envisage it. Sc2 is NOT Wow, its pretty much useless to have multiple counts doing the same thing as you do not want them to do that in most case and it is, imo, considered cheating. Anyway multiboxing was already retarded in Wow, it is even more in any other game. | ||
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awha
Denmark1358 Posts
I was just curious if anyone had tried it out or knew about it, as im not interested in trying it out myself. But I guess it could be quite interesting to see a multiboxer box several accounts at once.Not for the sake of "winning" the ladder, but for fun and challenge  | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 12 2010 00:06 Synk wrote: I do think multiboxing in SC2 would be retarded, but for the guy who says 5 people can kill a multiboxer easily in WoW, here is a link to my arena team ( that I havent played in about 6 months now ). http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Illidan&ts=5&t=Ride the Lightning&select=Ride the Lightning 5v5 is serious business. And looks like 335 teams did manage to beat you. Depends on the comp, I guess. If they don't have a lock/priest/warr or experience fighting 5boxing shamans, then yeah. | ||
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viraltouch
United States299 Posts
Yes actually the apm in Wow is often higher than in starcraft because of mouvements + jumps + spell/techniques spam, ahahaha. right wow apm = sc2 apm. wow is a game where you can spam 1 and get 400 apm without playing like a noob because its not that time demanding at all. | ||
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
On October 12 2010 00:18 Roggay wrote: Yes actually the apm in Wow is often higher than in starcraft because of mouvements + jumps + spell/techniques spam, which doesnt mean its hard to do at all. But I think I had more than 400apm in arena with my rogue. And regarding the multiboxing, its just retarded imo to even envisage it. Sc2 is NOT Wow, its pretty much useless to have multiple counts doing the same thing as you do not want them to do that in most case and it is, imo, considered cheating. Anyway multiboxing was already retarded in Wow, it is even more in any other game. Guess what I am running about 500 apm just typing this response. It means squat if you have a game where players play with high apm, whether its starcraft, wow, or tetris. What matters is the skill cap... and to anybody that thinks the skill cap of a game like WoW is in the same dimension as brood war or even SC2... you're just an idiot. Speaking of idiocy... multiboxing for SC2 has no advantages and many disadvantages. This isn't wow; nobody can just single-handedly beat a legitimately good team by having to use two sets of input devices. (btw macros are illegal in this game). Maybe a strong player can pull this off into the platinum leagues but then again that player could probably 1v2 his way into the same position. I just don't see the point to it | ||
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EriktheGuy
Canada132 Posts
You could hotkey identical units from each player to the same key. Then, you would simply have to do everything twice. Train 2 SCVs instead of 1, place 2 barracks instead of 1, etc. It would be much harder than playing 1 player, but nowhere near twice as hard. | ||
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
On October 12 2010 02:16 awha wrote: thanks for all the replies guys, and sorry for the late reply - have been away all day. I was just curious if anyone had tried it out or knew about it, as im not interested in trying it out myself. But I guess it could be quite interesting to see a multiboxer box several accounts at once.Not for the sake of "winning" the ladder, but for fun and challenge It might be fun, but it would be too challenging to pull off... Just leaving with your slave account(s) instantly in team games is NOT multiboxing, but that can work and should be doable at a "high" level. Multiboxing in WoW is all about in-game macros and addon's (optional) as well as outside multiplexer of your choice. SC2 does not have this possibility. You wont get far with just a (hardware/software) multiplexer (unless you want to do something illegal). | ||
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Seide
United States831 Posts
On October 12 2010 02:28 viraltouch wrote: fine, I will confess. SlayerS and Boxer are me on KR bnet. I duel box on 1v1 just cuz I am that good. and at times my two accounts will get matched up and even then, I play it out like a boss. ahahaha. right wow apm = sc2 apm. wow is a game where you can spam 1 and get 400 apm without playing like a noob because its not that time demanding at all. because you cant do this in SC2 amirite? And we dont see crazy woker hotkey spam at the beggining of every game and throughout every game. How is this not equivalent to spamming hotkeys until an ability goes off? 150-200 APM of spamming hotkeys on rotation in WoW for abilities != 150-200 spamming hotkeys on rotation for units/buildings to you? Logic is your friend. Raiding and high level arena actually require a lot awareness and fast reaction time. Until you outgear an encounter its actually pretty challenging, then becomes piss easy. On Multiboxing: While I see it being possible, in team games maybe. Playing several 1v1s at once I dont see happening due to too many variables for the player to think about at once. Sine SC2 is more about decision making in WoW it makes it difficult to multibox properly. | ||
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Tonyoh
France218 Posts
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viraltouch
United States299 Posts
On October 12 2010 02:43 Seide wrote: because you cant do this in SC2 amirite? And we dont see crazy woker hotkey spam at the beggining of every game and throughout every game. How is this not equivalent to spamming hotkeys until an ability goes off? 150-200 APM of spamming hotkeys on rotation in WoW for abilities != 150-200 spamming hotkeys on rotation for units/buildings to you? Logic is your friend. Raiding and high level arena actually require a lot awareness and fast reaction time. Until you outgear an encounter its actually pretty challenging, then becomes piss easy. On Multiboxing: While I see it being possible, in team games maybe. Playing several 1v1s at once I dont see happening due to too many variables for the player to think about at once. I did say spam one button with a condition that is without playing like a noob I played my share of wow and in that game yes, you can spam one button for victory. and you do it quite often. | ||
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Seide
United States831 Posts
On October 12 2010 02:49 viraltouch wrote: I did say spam one button with a condition that is without playing like a noob I played my share of wow and in that game yes, you can spam one button for victory. and you do it quite often. Check your totem, because you must be living in some dream world, or have never had a level 80 or done any end game content. Completely out of your element. This is like saying you can win OSL building only zealots. Get off your "im a starcraft player im so great pedestal", both games take a high amount of skill to play at the highest level, but there is more decision making in SC2 whereas WoW is more about reaction time/timing. | ||
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viraltouch
United States299 Posts
say, how many attack buttons does retardins use. you just spam 4 buttons OUT OF ORDER and you will still get around what you could be getting. or destro locks where you spam incinerates, sure you gotta throw in the debuffs but besides those side mechanics, you are pretty much spamming your cast buttons. now compare this to starcraft 2 where you have multiple bases that need constant production and a lot more than 1 units to control, etc. I honestly cannot believe that you are trying to argue that wow requires anywhere near the apm/quickness as sc2 does. | ||
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viraltouch
United States299 Posts
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