[October] SC2 General Discussion - Page 3

On October 03 2010 05:25 seaofsaturn wrote:
I have a couple simple ideas for zerg's macro mechanic, since other races can save up energy and dont have to keep up with it as much and since i feel like most of my losses are because i ran out of larva and have 2000 extra minerals. (it is not to make it autocast, that is a horrible idea.) Wasnt sure if this was worth starting a thread over.

I think it would be more fair if we could stack one larva inject at a time. We would still have to manually inject and would still be limited to larvae popping every 40 seconds, but we could plan one injection in advance, which would give a little bit of leeway.

Just in case its unclear i will give an example:
Your queen has been out a while, it has 40 energy saved up, so you inject some larva. 15 seconds later you are back up to 25 energy. The first spawn larva still has 25 seconds until it pops, but you can add another spawn larva onto your hatch so it will begin producing larva as soon as the first one spits out larva (it will start its 40 second cycle as soon as the first one ends). So basically it treats the spawn larva like a production building but with only 1 queue instead of 5.

That might make it a little too easy especially considering all you have to do is build another hatch. But I think it would be nice if there was some kind of sound notification atleast. (Overmind voice: "Your larrrvaa hasss sssspawwwwnnnned grghrghrghr")

On October 06 2010 12:58 RobPG wrote:
Anyone having some connection issues right now?

On October 03 2010 06:49 Jarvyx wrote:


What I was thinking was actually allowing 2 injects to run simultaneously. The main issue with your suggestion is that yes, it will help some, but even with perfect larva timing using this, queens will still burn only 1-2 energy per larva cycle. With the ability to "double inject", you could burn 25ish energy per cycle. It would also increase the ability to play off of one base with 2 queens, which would help zerg tremendously. This may end up being overpowered, but consider that even with infinite larva, you can only build as many units as you have resources, so at least in the early game I'm not sure how outrageously overpowered this may or may not be. If it WAS allowed, spawn larva would probably require a nerf, like say +10 second duration, to help balance it out.

On October 03 2010 05:36 Armand wrote:
Can zealots use charges on its own troop for retreats? First of all I'm not a toss player, just wondering how would that workout even if it takes alot of effort to micro. If you can charge on a probe, which is placed as a step-stone for exit usage, or charge on things as an early-charge into your opponent's face, will the micro worth it?

On October 03 2010 08 barnak wrote:
I have a question, I keep hearing ppl say "the meta game" I'd like a definition of that plz, I'm kind of clueless, it sounds like a game within a game or like many games together, i don't see the meaning. ty

On October 07 2010 12:30 esc0bar wrote:
Hey people, newly registered here!

I'm Just wondering how do people go about finding a Team in SC2? I come from an FPS background and it was quite easy Actually. But I don't seem to find anything about joining teams in SC2 on the forums here. I'm 1300 zerg diamond and want to improve my game but I don't have any friends playing the Game and ladder play is meh when it comes to trying stuff and improving.

If anyone has a few tips, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

On October 07 2010 06:39 zak wrote:
Does bonus pool accumulate the less you play?

On October 07 2010 01:02 Nycaloth wrote:



Its more about what is happening around the game. It is how popular strategies influence overall gameplay. For instance, with the overall popularity of the protoss 4gate, many startegies and builds used versus toss are evaluated on the basis of if and how well they can deal with 4gate pressure. over time, people will come up with build orders that can crush straight up 4gate play and the popularity of the build will slowly decrease as it is dropped in favour of other, newer, more effective strategies and eventually, builds versus protoss will no longer have to account for 4gate pressure since you see it very rarely. the metagame has now changed.

a good example for majopr metagame shifts comes from professional BW. before Fantasy, T rarely if ever used mech against Z and Zerg builds did not incorporate any units very capable of dealing with mechnised armies as a consequence. So when Fantasy showed that you could fight the ususal Muta/Ling mix with Valkyries and Goliaths, the popularity of mech play in TvZ increased dramatically and the general dynamic of the matchup changed because of the change in the metagame.

On October 03 2010 21:51 BarlowEnter_Writeup wrote:
Why are most of the Zerg players rejecting the idea of larvae inject through mini map?

If you've given more practice for the precise clicks on the mini map, shouldn't it be the most rewarding way to macro injections?

Also did someone on one of TL's forum stated that when the larvae pops/hatchery ready for injects, you can point at the hatchery through your mini map to see colour changes(or something)? I'm not sure, can someone confirm this?
I use the backspace click* technique for all my injections, so I just want to know what's the set back from this before I do any changes that I might regret.

On October 07 2010 16:32 DarkMoon wrote:
It is my firm belief that we should be able to choose the color we want when we ladder.

I'm sick of being red or blue all the time.