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crueknight
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 16:09:13
October 25 2010 15:39 GMT
#201
On October 25 2010 21:17 Deadlyfish wrote:
What is the best response to mass muta as terran?

I usually go thor with a few marines, but it never seems to be enough. He has like 20 or so mutas, and when he uses magic box my thors do almost nothing. The obvious answer would be to build a bunch of marines, but then he makes 10 banelings and destroys my whole army.

Also, he forces me to place 15 turrets around my base if i wanna be safe, otherwise he just goes around picking off tech labs and such. I cant really move out because i know that either

a) My entire base dies to the mutas
b) he wins in a big battle because i dont have enough AA.

It seems that the only really viable AA that terran has against mutalisks is thors, which isnt really that good when he knows how to magic box (any silver player and up). As i said making more than 10 marines in TvZ just seems like a bad idea. Also, it takes alot of time to make 5+ thors and 20+ marines, and by the time i finally feel safe, the zerg will be on 5 bases and have a bunch of banelings/zerglings

Yes, i know "dont let him get 20 mutas in the first place", but i'm just wondering how to deal with this.

I've searched in the strategy forum, but all i found was old threads (like 2-3 months old), which i dont really care about. Also, it was hard to find a thread specifically about mass muta, and not just the same old 6-10 muta harass that we all know and hate. But if anyone could link me to an up to date thread about this issue, i'd be happy :D


Seriously, 2-3 month old threads are worth your time. I'd suggest reading those anyways.

As for me a Terran player, by the time the Zerg gets Mutas, you should have already gotten a large marine/marauder force. (The marauders was to counter the banelings)
And since it takes a while for Zerg to get air, you might as well have gotten a starport out as well and pumped out a few Vikings to help. They aren't the greatest at mass Mutas but they are more effective in numbers than a couple Thors. Then you also have a few turrets to also help you out.

SO what I would have done from the beginning:
-The normal marine build.
- You scout banelings, pump marauders.
-Supposing he isn't doing a baneling bust, go and attack/harass with marauders in front. (This should be done under 10 mins)
-Build a factory and try to expand.
-You scout a spire, build a air turret or two and a starport and pump out vikings. (They aren't great counters for Mutas so only use them to hold them off while your marines or air turrets do the damage)
-By this time, you should have the advantage and should attack/counter with your marauder/marine force and if you micro properly you should do massive damage if not kill off the zerg.

NEVER give Zerg the time to tech up, because next they may go Ultralisks or Broodlords which will be quite a nuisance for you and can cost you the game.

If they do get Ultras, then you may need to get another starport and pump banshees as well as your vikings. This is very time consuming and requires a lot more micro to pull off.
If Broodlords, then youll also need another starport to pump mass vikings.
Always scout and build the best counters based on what buildings you see.

NOTE: I didn't do the helion rush like most Terrans would do. For me I hate to tech up early and prefer a large bio army. It's more versatile that way and can stop/counter early zerg attacks.
Thors are also a good counter if you build them quick to stop early harrass. But that where your offensive Bio army kicks in and wrecks their Vespian gas production to stop building more mutas.
ALSO: You can take an scv with your attacking army and build air turrets in the middle of the map, so you can retreat your marauders to them to get those mutas off your back, then continue the push.

EDIT: Found a recent post that might help you: http://sc2armory.com/forums/topic/20299
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
October 25 2010 15:57 GMT
#202
Can someone talk to ANYONE on Blizzard and tell them to remove the stupid hot key grid that appears in the middle of the UI. Fucking thing has led me to lose several games when i end up changing my hotkeys while microing.
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
fean0r
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany117 Posts
October 25 2010 22:42 GMT
#203
hello everyone i am newbie n dunno if i am right here in this thread but:
1.) i wanna know if a probe wich farmed a mineral(has a blue stone in his/her or whatever`s mouth) and got send to gas, does it lost the mineral ??? shall i send it to nexus/main first?
2.) how long does the energyregeneration for ht, banshe etc take? do the have all the same regenerationtime and how long is it???
3.) is there an official or unofficial source where i can inform myself about this stuff(mechanics, unitissues or propotions(range,attack etc...) without asking in a thread, like an encyclopedia???

thx for answers n sry for bad english
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
October 25 2010 22:51 GMT
#204
On October 26 2010 07:42 fean0r wrote:
hello everyone i am newbie n dunno if i am right here in this thread but:
1.) i wanna know if a probe wich farmed a mineral(has a blue stone in his/her or whatever`s mouth) and got send to gas, does it lost the mineral ??? shall i send it to nexus/main first?
2.) how long does the energyregeneration for ht, banshe etc take? do the have all the same regenerationtime and how long is it???
3.) is there an official or unofficial source where i can inform myself about this stuff(mechanics, unitissues or propotions(range,attack etc...) without asking in a thread, like an encyclopedia???

thx for answers n sry for bad english


1. yes
2. roughly 1 second per 1 energy (but little faster cause of the fast game setting)
3. look right under the team liquid banner for a tab that says liquipedia ---> go to sc2 sec
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 00:39:19
October 26 2010 00:38 GMT
#205
One second, I just realized. Why does Blizzard care about balancing 2v2? 2v2 in BW was incredibly imbalanced favoring ZZ. Even with ZZ outlawed, a team had to have at least one zerg to be competitive.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
October 26 2010 10:09 GMT
#206
Does anyone know the last music video played before the streams during the Ro64 for GSL? All I remember is that one of the girl had white hair, and that another one looked like a mix.

I hated it but now that it's gone I feel incomplete without it.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Temujin
Profile Joined October 2010
France10 Posts
October 26 2010 11:49 GMT
#207
Hi everybody
I'm new on the forum but i know the place for a long time (thanks to HD and Husky) and now i'm living in korea i'm going to be more involved in sc2 community =)
I still don't know if that's the right place to put this message, but as i'm new i can't post new topic.
Few about me first : Little player from France, fan of Huk and Ra, playing protoss but lovin' every races.

Ok here is my question now : how can i buy a korean version of the game? i'm trying to switch my country on battle.net but that's not working for now. I should have done that before coming here but heh, was too busy

So, has LT moved to korean servers (and korea right?), could you tell me how it worked for you?

Thanks a lot and maybe see you around in some pc bangs =)
Pylo the Pylon is still Alive
RainPTR
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8 Posts
October 26 2010 13:59 GMT
#208
My game likes to start typing Korean sometimes when i try to type. It does not revert back to English until i restart the game. Anyone know how to switch between the languages?

My computer is capable of displaying Korean characters, but it's currently set on English (EN).
Temujin
Profile Joined October 2010
France10 Posts
October 26 2010 14:15 GMT
#209
Do you have a korean/english keyboard?
And could you help me with my topic just above as you seem to have a korean sc2?
Pylo the Pylon is still Alive
RainPTR
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8 Posts
October 26 2010 14:48 GMT
#210
I don't have a korean sc2 sorry. I'm using a SEA version with US access.

My keyboard is English/Chinese.

In-game, whenever you press Enter the chat will come up. On the right hand side of the chat tab there's an "A". Sometimes it's replaced with a korean symbol and I have no clue what I've pressed to change it to that.
Lightspeed
Profile Joined August 2010
130 Posts
October 26 2010 16:42 GMT
#211
If you have configured multiple input methods, ALT + SHIFT will cycle through these for the current application, that might be your issue.
We have one cup here, but really only two girls
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
October 26 2010 20:25 GMT
#212
GSL2 Liquibet is getting really, really tough.
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 26 2010 20:33 GMT
#213
On October 27 2010 05:25 KevinIX wrote:
GSL2 Liquibet is getting really, really tough.
Always bet on zerg!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
bevey
Profile Joined April 2010
United States16 Posts
October 27 2010 07:06 GMT
#214
Hey I was just wondering what is the artist and the title of the song that starts in the very beginning of Game 1 between Idra vs oGsGon in the round of 32in the GSL season 2.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 27 2010 07:08 GMT
#215
On October 25 2010 18:41 LyRa wrote:
Do drones get a movespeed bonus on creep like all other zerg units o.o (haven't checked!)

hellz no
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
doerit
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany234 Posts
October 27 2010 07:09 GMT
#216
What was the Blizzcon prize pool?

Couldn't find it anywere...thank you
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
October 27 2010 12:08 GMT
#217
On October 26 2010 19:09 .Aar wrote:
Does anyone know the last music video played before the streams during the Ro64 for GSL? All I remember is that one of the girl had white hair, and that another one looked like a mix.

I hated it but now that it's gone I feel incomplete without it.


Nvm, found it. It's "Breathe" by miss A.

I hate it so much but now I feel complete again..
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Ganondorf
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy600 Posts
October 28 2010 00:29 GMT
#218
On October 27 2010 05:25 KevinIX wrote:
GSL2 Liquibet is getting really, really tough.


Yeah don't remind me, my streak was interrupted because of fruit dealer losing. Damn fake Boxer, i hope he will change his id at least.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
October 28 2010 01:15 GMT
#219
It seemed to me, all Zerg buildings are sensitively quickly regenerate. If before, every 4-5 seconds was regenerating +1 HP, now it is about ~2.5 seconds. And in some games, noticed the damaged buildings sensitively quickly reach the green icons than before.

What do you think about this?
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
October 28 2010 07:31 GMT
#220
On October 27 2010 16:09 doerit wrote:
What was the Blizzcon prize pool?

Couldn't find it anywere...thank you

I believe it was $25k, $10k, $5k.. and the remaining $5000 split among the rest.
here i am
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