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We recently took action, including suspensions and bans, on over 5,000 StarCraft II players who were in violation of the Battle.net Terms of Use for cheating and/or using hack programs while playing. In addition to undermining the spirit of fair competition that’s essential to play on Battle.net, cheating and hacking can lead to stability and performance issues with the service. Maintaining a stable, safe, and secure online-gaming experience for legitimate players is a top priority for us, and we'll be continuing to keep watch on Battle.net and take action as needed.
The exact players are not listed.
Personally, I'm amazed that they only found around 5000 players.
Good to see Blizzard stepping up to the plate!
Source: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/882508
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'Bout them they started the smack down for the for the wack-clowns doing their hack rounds.
GJ blizzard
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they also banned hacked accounts correct? man talk about bringing down the law...
these is also a very expensive ban for the hackers. 40 dollars down the drain.
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LOL I hope they learned their lesson, but they probably didn't so now they'll go and spend another $60 on the game. Damn hackers.
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You can never argue with Blizzard about beeing too inconsequent with banning cheaters. Great job!
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Something tells me there are a lot more than 5000 players hacking :/
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I love how they ban in huge waves. Makes it much more noticeable for any would-be hackers. Just waiting for the 'I got banned and never hacked!' posts...
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it would be awesomer if they posted names of those who got banned  and it is $60 down the drain  props to blizz...
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They should REALLY release the list of names imo.
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Good job Blizzard! Wonder if any notable players were caught or if it's only newbies.
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Now those who are banned can spend another $60. Fuel the economy.
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I'm banned!!! Jk I get accused of hacking a lot, but that's just because I played SC1 for 10 years. GJ blizzard, this was a bold move. Keep up the fight against hackers.
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I got banned for trolling bnet sc2 forums, they're cracking down on that too.
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Fruit Dealer got banned
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One of the few times I can say this and it not be sarcasm. Thanks Blizzard. Its great that the hackers will be done away with and the ones that want to return have to spend $60 because they played dishonorably. Unfortunately that statement in itself means should they choose they can buy another copy and go right on hacking. Bans are always good to set an example to would-be hackers, but at the same time eliminating the loopholes that allow hacks makes a lot more sense to me.
On October 01 2010 11:40 UnholyRai wrote:Fruit Dealer got banned 
Lol I assume you are saying so because of how hard he raped in the semis.
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someone should check to see if any of the top 200 from the servers were 'missing' after they issued this mass ban. =]
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Good to see the banhammer being used. I eagerly await for the entrails of said hackers to be burned. :o
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On October 01 2010 11:41 ComusLoM wrote: Hell, it's about time.
Pretty much sums it up.
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5,000 * 60 = 300,000 USD. Holy...
Good riddance. Hackers are
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I hope they don't ban ppl for custom hotkeys -.-
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Thank you Blizzard. Keep up the good work!
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*fistpump*
300,000 dollars :O
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GJ Blizzard, name them now
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is it true that they also ban ppl for hacking when playing single player mode? dat would be really gay-tarded if they did.
User was temp banned for this post.
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5000 hackers out of roughly how many accounts? The number is mind boggling to me.
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On October 01 2010 11:58 dybydx wrote: is it true that they also ban ppl for hacking when playing single player mode? dat would be really gay-tarded if they did.
Or you could beat the campaign / get achievements with skill.
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On October 01 2010 12:00 Alou wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 11:58 dybydx wrote: is it true that they also ban ppl for hacking when playing single player mode? dat would be really gay-tarded if they did. Or you could beat the campaign / get achievements with skill. 
Or they could use the official cheat codes -_-.
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if they are only "suspending" and not perma-banning these cheaters, their ladder/accounts should be fully reset.
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On October 01 2010 11:58 dybydx wrote: is it true that they also ban ppl for hacking when playing single player mode? dat would be really gay-tarded if they did. Altering the game is against the end user license. It doesnt matter what game mode you were in. If you are really that bad at this game, you could just use cheat codes instead of hacks.
Apparently some people also got banned for using macros.
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They most likely only banned people who were using drop hacks and just suspended the map hackers for a few days
But to add I'm shocked its only 5k, I would think at least 100k
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Actually, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were only about 5k hackers, most people probably don't even know what a map hack is.
Edit: Of course, I could be wrong, I really have no idea what the real number is.
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Blizzard does something right, good job, you deserve a pat on the back
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i bet their marketing team is good at getting people to use maphacks...
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holy crap.. 300,000$ ..
think of how many of those players are going to buy the game again.
maybe blizzard will start creating and secretly distributing hacks of their own.
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disappointing it's not over 9000.
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On October 01 2010 12:04 neobowman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 12:00 Alou wrote:On October 01 2010 11:58 dybydx wrote: is it true that they also ban ppl for hacking when playing single player mode? dat would be really gay-tarded if they did. Or you could beat the campaign / get achievements with skill.  Or they could use the official cheat codes -_-.
don't think you can earn achievements while using cheats during campaign. think it was covered in the single player forums lol.
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On October 01 2010 12:25 imyzhang wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 12:04 neobowman wrote:On October 01 2010 12:00 Alou wrote:On October 01 2010 11:58 dybydx wrote: is it true that they also ban ppl for hacking when playing single player mode? dat would be really gay-tarded if they did. Or you could beat the campaign / get achievements with skill.  Or they could use the official cheat codes -_-. don't think you can earn achievements while using cheats during campaign. think it was covered in the single player forums lol. None of the achievements are difficult enough that you would need to use hacks to get them.
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5000 starcraft 2 players i wonder how much of those were guest passes
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Its good and all that blizzard is cracking down on these no gooders. I can't help but wonder that some of the people who were legit got banned and some of them that weren't didn't. It would really suck to have to pay another 60 dollars for not hacking.
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Good to see them dropping the bans.
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Ughh I wanna quote the tank from sc1 but can't remember the entire thing x_x something about dispencing indescriminate justice.
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I don't think it's a good idea to release the names of the hackers. Remember the character codes? How many "killers" or JimRaynors are out there? What if they banned one of them who hacked? Then you got 999 other innocent guys who get their names tarnished.
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Blizzard just repeating the same pattern as they have for the last 10 years. Let hacks/exploits go on for a while, and then announce you're banning a tiny amount of people (in retrospect) every few months, rinse and repeat. This same procedure was the norm during D2 and WC3, and was hardly a solution. Its just enough to dissuade some people from using hacks, but not enough to get rid of the problem. In a game played by hundreds of thousands of people (a lot more if they included trial accounts in that figure), this is a drop in the bucket. I wonder if this time around they will be more proactive than a quarterly banhammer event.
I'm surprised to see so many people this excited about this announcement..
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On October 01 2010 12:36 Nub4ever wrote: Ughh I wanna quote the tank from sc1 but can't remember the entire thing x_x something about dispencing indescriminate justice. I'm about to drop the (ban)hammer, and dispense some indiscriminate justice!
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I was reading through the comments and "awesome... I always hated hackers and cheaters, and that 7% mining glitch" is pretty funny. Blizzard forums are love
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yay blizzard, nice to see them punishing cheaters
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5,000 * $60 = 300,000 WOW, easy money!
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Some of these bans were only temp bans, as short as 24-72hours.
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Let the hammer smash away at the hackers bit by bit! We'll probably just keep getting more, but always have to bash away with that banhammer :D
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I'm amazed that only 5,000 players out of 3 million were found hacking :O, maybe blizzard is tracking even more people?
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Ban hammer galore.. gj blizzard thats something they always do right... Justice for ALL!!
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It's bans AND suspensions. Unfortunately, most of the hackers are probably just suspended for a short while.
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Awesomeeeeeeeee. No more ppl looking at my base randomly..
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Good to hear blizz is taking initiative; hopefully they can find a way to disable the hacks that they found, if possible
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They really should display the user IDs to humiliate them. If the terms and conditions signed by the user allows Blizzard to distribute personal information, then displaying their real life names wouldn't be too bad of an idea either. It would be huge OH SHIT moment for all hackers out there.
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i watch every single one of my replays, and after watching psy break down a match with a maphacker, i check for it now. i've found about four or five people who have done it and i'm surprised it's only 5000
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I wonder if there is a way to check whether the person I reported was warned/banned. The guy was not only hacking but proceeded to berate me by msging me after the game. BM doesn't really bother me but the fact that Blizzard is doing something vs hackers is great.
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On October 01 2010 12:16 Subversion wrote: Boom roasted.
Super funny.
I guess, if you suspected somebody of hacking, keep an eye on their acct and see if they have any games played after the bans were handed out.
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They shouldn't release names. With the identifier system, what if you share a name with a hacker?
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wow ~5000? thats a lot. didnt think there would be that many.
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They are saying suspension and bans I think suspension ~ macro utilities or modified single player cheat to get more achievements? Ban ~ map hack?
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this makes me very happy :D
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I have played about 350 games so far and I have watched every single replay afterward. Out of those 350 only one was hacking (map hack). So 0.29% were hacking
Currently about 1.8 Million people play SC2. About 5000 people were banned. That is 0.28%
It is great that the hackers were banned. But people need to realize hacking is very rare. 99/100 times that you think someone was hacking you simply got outplayed.
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I hope they come out with a list, then I'll know if it's even worth my time reporting to them.
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On October 01 2010 11:32 StarStruck wrote: Something tells me there are a lot more than 5000 players hacking :/
Yeah seriously. O_O
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Very glad to hear it, came sooner than I was expecting to be totally honest. But with each wave there should be less and less news, as people start to realize that hacking is gonna cost them another $60 if they want to play again. GJ Blizzard!
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katalysis:
Great job, although I still prefer if they created a parallel hacker ladder for each tier and "silently" moved confirmed hackers onto that ladder... Would've been a lot of lulz.
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We were all waiting for this news
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Mmm should the banned accounts still be visible on the battlenet website ? I'm asking that because the first thing I did when I saw this topic is to see if the "famous" maphacker VnRock was banned... And his account is still out there http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/716501/1/Vnrock/ Well, those ban waves are still a nice news
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$300,000+ on sc2 copy's gone. =D
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blizzard doing good job thus far.
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On October 01 2010 14:40 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 11:32 StarStruck wrote: Something tells me there are a lot more than 5000 players hacking :/ Yeah seriously. O_O
Perhaps, but there aren't that many tbh.
People treat it like every other person is a hacker ><
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On October 01 2010 14:53 Bibzball wrote:Mmm should the banned accounts still be visible on the battlenet website ? I'm asking that because the first thing I did when I saw this topic is to see if the "famous" maphacker VnRock was banned... And his account is still out there http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/716501/1/Vnrock/Well, those ban waves are still a nice news
If you look at his match history, he hasn't played a game since August.
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I wonder if they talk to Iccup about anti-hacking... those guys have a ton of experience in it... sure they could give ideas about it...
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Warden is far more advanced than the iccup anti-hack, I don't think they need tips from them.
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Good News Everyone!
On October 01 2010 16:59 R1CH wrote: Warden is far more advanced than the iccup anti-hack, I don't think they need tips from them.
interesting, can you tell more about it?
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I seriously doubt they permanently banned the hackers. Probably all suspensions.
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On October 01 2010 17:01 SmoKim wrote:Good News Everyone! Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 16:59 R1CH wrote: Warden is far more advanced than the iccup anti-hack, I don't think they need tips from them. interesting, can you tell more about it?
have you tried hacking in wc3 warden?? heck even sc2?? the makers even WARNED the players about warden so they stopped.
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On October 01 2010 17:03 link0 wrote: I seriously doubt they permanently banned the hackers. Probably all suspensions.
nope it's permanent like in WoW. WC3 was suspensions back then but i don't know about it now
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I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts (
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Finally!!Good job Blizzard!!
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GJ blizzard! i hope all retarded cheater-kids will get cought.
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I wonder how many of them didn't hack?
There are probably few cases where the bans (might also account for previous games as wow/wc3) were unjustified as those people might not have violated any terms.
Even though Blizzard can ban anyone they want and whenever they want it still raises questions like these to me.
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Well now, all of those who used Warp - In on good ol´ Immortals got roflstomped in return!
^ - ^
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Haha that's pretty sick 5k already
hope they find more soon.
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5000? I wasn't aware that there were so many abusers.
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On October 01 2010 17:21 Benshin88 wrote:I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts  ( I don't get that. What do you get out of playing with maphacks? Apparently you don't want to get better than your opponents. Then what is your goal in playing video games?
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In other news: 5000+ copies of StarCraft 2 were sold today.
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They cannot release the names, because everyone can have the same fucking name nowadays and you would brandmark everyone who happens to be named the exact same.
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On October 01 2010 17:03 backtoback wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 17:01 SmoKim wrote:Good News Everyone! On October 01 2010 16:59 R1CH wrote: Warden is far more advanced than the iccup anti-hack, I don't think they need tips from them. interesting, can you tell more about it? have you tried hacking in wc3 warden?? heck even sc2?? the makers even WARNED the players about warden so they stopped. Warden is in d2lod aswell where all the item stores aka dupe hacking just check when warden is on and when its not (with some tool) and then hack away... since warden is not always on aka its not as good as you might think.
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On October 01 2010 20:03 WilbertK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 17:21 Benshin88 wrote:I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts  ( I don't get that. What do you get out of playing with maphacks? Apparently you don't want to get better than your opponents. Then what is your goal in playing video games?
using maphacks in D2 was different. no one used it in PvPs anyway just when they were MF-ing. you used maphacks to save time on navigating through the levels because their structure spawned random everytime.
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you can ban hacked accounts and amateurs who foolishly cheated with their real accounts. you can't ban hackers or people who cheated with fake accounts. people just make new ones.
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You should check the official XBox Live ban forum. People arguing how they couldn't have cheated and stuff and that their username or bio was completely a ok. http://forums.xbox.com/1386/ShowForum.aspx
Most people take it but occasionally your get some real jewels.
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Insane number of hackers, tells you how lame some people are.
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There is a very good reason why bans come after large increments of time. Pretty much a wait between hack discovery and announcement that said hack was discovered so it slows down hack development also. If you think you can't be found for 3 months you don't have that big of an incentive to get a new/better version of it. But if you'd immediately know you were found you'd just start working again.
Plus they need very solid evidence that the player is hacking, most hacking reports are probably not accurate at all. As for the ones claiming to be banned unfairly, they are either lying or can get Blizzard to recheck their stories but they will never ever tell you why you got banned, they don't have to and you agreed to it if you ever got past the log in screen of the game.
I think they also started banning people for using trainers in SP. Or some other SP cheats that rely on changing game memory.
Plus verbal abuse, but that should be just a suspension. In wow it's usually 3+ suspensions for insulting and being reported to get permanent ban.
None of these seem over the top, it is a social game after all, rules do apply and hope people start understanding that.
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Anyone know if anyone using customized hotkeys got banned for that reason (i haven't been banned but using still customized hotkeys) ?
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i once tried to go thru a list of tens of thousand IPs to ban inactive, inappropriate, abusive accounts. Thought it was easy, but it was an impossible task once you consider innocent accounts. What ended up was you try to lower your threshold to avoid killing innocent people. So 5000 or whatever the number is ... is very very little compared to the amount of abusive accounts.
Rule of 3 strikes is the best.
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To those who say 'only 5000 banned'. Blizzard doesn't have a temp-ban option like there is on TL (edit: reference missing, but you don't read about such a thing in the media). You see plenty of hackers but you can't see the behavior of those hackers over a longer time. Maybe Blizzard only has banned those who were most malicious or persistent in their hacking. These bans serve as a warning for others. I'm for second chances. But I'll add that I hope to see more (necessary) bans in a couple of months.
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On one hand Blizzard want to make their game hacker free.
On the other hand, they don't want to permaban a whole bnet account just for using one racial slur, because then they'd lose customers (i.e. their teen WoW crowd which is spilling over into SC2)
So the 5000 seems like a reasonable number.
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Seems like some people decided to use thirty party things other than maphacks.
People need to remember that Blizzard clearly states any modification will give them power to terminate your account/access.
This is why awhile back when someone invented the apm hook to display apm i said it is probably something people should avoid using.
And it looks like some people used trainers to get achievement points in brutal...
Single Player maybe single..but it is still connected to b.net.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Are there bans for:
- repalcing zerg Advisor voice to Overmind - replacing zerg music and music other races - replacing loading screen - etc
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yeeee smack dem hackas down
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it goes something like: SC2 reports to Blizzard what programs/ip connections you have running concurrently with SC2, so yes.
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On October 01 2010 21:18 Badjas wrote: To those who say 'only 5000 banned'. Blizzard doesn't have a temp-ban option like there is on TL (edit: reference missing, but you don't read about such a thing in the media).
It's called "Account suspensions" and Blizzard has those. Blizzard even says: "including suspensions and bans" - therefore not even 5000 perma bans.
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good riddance to hackers.
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why isnt there a ban-list released?
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On October 01 2010 21:34 Existor wrote: Are there bans for:
- repalcing zerg Advisor voice to Overmind - replacing zerg music and music other races - replacing loading screen - etc
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i think so, blizzard often stated that they will ban for any modification of the client
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I'm pretty naive - I had no idea so many people were already hacking in SC2. Could someone please enlighten me as to what's out there?
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I've read somewhere that you can test whether a person you reported is banned or not by adding them to you friends list. So if you get something like "user does not exist" than that person is most likely banned.
Can somebody confirm this?
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On October 01 2010 11:41 ComusLoM wrote: Hell, it's about time. What a conclusion
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On October 01 2010 22:14 Flaccid wrote: I'm pretty naive - I had no idea so many people were already hacking in SC2. Could someone please enlighten me as to what's out there?
Maphack, drophack, auto spells, warp of immortals, hide that the player look for fog of war and many other things that i dont remember.
Gogog Blizzard there is more to catch!
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If there is one really, really good reason for blizzard to require a battle.net connection, this is it. gg blizz!
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I don't know how many of you can get super excited about 5,000 players getting temporary suspensions. You do realize this will have no effect, right?
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt.
'Hi folks, we're doing something about those hackers for you. We're on the job.'
5,000 of 3,000,000 accounts is around 0.002 percent. ._.
This is little reason for applause.
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First of all, they're permanent bans. 60 dollars down the drain.
5,000 of 3,000,000 accounts is around 0.002 percent. ._.
Second of all, how is that even relevant? There aren't THREE MILLION hackers in SC2. There's probably more than 5k, but banning hackers can never be a bad thing. Getting rid of cheaters is a publicity stunt now, wow. People will find any excuse to hate Blizzard.
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On October 01 2010 22:26 StarStruck wrote: I don't know how many of you can get super excited about 5,000 players getting temporary suspensions. You do realize this will have no effect, right?
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt.
'Hi folks, we're doing something about those hackers for you. We're on the job.'
5,000 of 3,000,000 accounts is around 0.002 percent. ._.
This is little reason for applause.
5,000 of 3,000,000 is 0.2%, not 0.002%. seems like a good number to start from for me.
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On October 01 2010 22:26 StarStruck wrote: I don't know how many of you can get super excited about 5,000 players getting temporary suspensions. You do realize this will have no effect, right?
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt.
'Hi folks, we're doing something about those hackers for you. We're on the job.'
5,000 of 3,000,000 accounts is around 0.002 percent. ._.
This is little reason for applause.
So you're saying they should ban 3million people? every player?
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On October 01 2010 21:58 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 21:18 Badjas wrote: To those who say 'only 5000 banned'. Blizzard doesn't have a temp-ban option like there is on TL (edit: reference missing, but you don't read about such a thing in the media). It's called "Account suspensions" and Blizzard has those. Blizzard even says: "including suspensions and bans" - therefore not even 5000 perma bans. Thanks for the correction, I read over that. Guess it's a waiting game to see if it has any effects on hackers and how common they are.
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Good to hear but I'm surprised it's only 5k.
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How many of these overlap with our wall of shame hacker thread?
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I'm pretty sure they are not banning based on hack reports folks. More likely they just downloaded two or three examples of common hacks, programmed warden to look for them, then banned everyone in their logs who came up positive since the day they started up warden (which was like a few weeks ago I believe). That's about the best we can hope for unless they allow us to manage our own ladders someday.
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they could only do: Sort player by single mission achievement point -> ban all 1600
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I highly doubt they banned 5,000. The last time they banned people they overstated it by 100x. (300,000). Good news though
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On October 01 2010 12:10 Delrake wrote: They most likely only banned people who were using drop hacks and just suspended the map hackers for a few days
But to add I'm shocked its only 5k, I would think at least 100k 100k is a lot of people. Given that most of the players don't care for hacking and a good portion are casual and don't even really think about it, only a small percentage of the population ever considers it...
Hackers: -Balls out newbies who couldn't play on a reasonable level to save their life. Most of them just live with it - some of them cheat and are still pretty mediocre. If they were truly cool they would be script kiddies and they would crash low-bandwidth websites. -People with "reasonable" skills who want people to think they're better than they really are and manage to convince themselves that it is the case. -RICH's evil twin brother which provides others with a desktop icon which you can double click and then you're instantly blessed with a fancy "hacker" title.
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On October 01 2010 22:26 StarStruck wrote: 5,000 of 3,000,000 accounts is around 0.002 percent. ._.
5,000 out of 3,000,000 is about 0.2% not 0.002%.
edit: Someone beat me to it. Sorry.
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My bad 0.2. Didn't move the decimal over.
Achilles don't put words in my mouth. 5,000 out of 3,000,000 players caught? I think that is a gross understatement and even then that's not even a slap on the wrist.
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I've only experienced one potential maphacker in one of my games, and I've played over 500 since I got the game in the beta. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, but I wouldn't be surprised if the hacker percentage was less than 1% or even .5%
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On October 01 2010 22:24 inforsomechop wrote: I say name and shame!
Since names are not unique (and who knows the ### of the guy you were playing), they could at least put a flag up in the guys' profiles, ala WGT.
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woah no warning !! well done Blizzard I really like the Zero-Tolerance attitude
Gotta check if the 3 Hackers I reported got banned.
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Does anybody know if custom hotkey users got banned? I stopped using them awhile ago and am just curious if this has been cracked down on so I know to continue using default hotkeys.
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On October 01 2010 23:46 Phayze9 wrote: Does anybody know if custom hotkey users got banned? I stopped using them awhile ago and am just curious if this has been cracked down on so I know to continue using default hotkeys.
been using custom keys since early beta and no im not banned~
pretty sure you wouldve seen a HUGE uproar if they banned people for customkeys.
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On a Dutch general IT forum I frequent someone has reported being banned for only using a single player trainer that gives extra credits. So assuming this is true, it indicates that Blizzard doesn't only ban for multiplayer reasons and also has other ways to detect cheats besides player reports.
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On October 01 2010 23:51 Rannasha wrote: On a Dutch general IT forum I frequent someone has reported being banned for only using a single player trainer that gives extra credits. So assuming this is true, it indicates that Blizzard doesn't only ban for multiplayer reasons and also has other ways to detect cheats besides player reports. It's good news if Blizzard checks for code injection, though too bad for the fella caught... he should've just used the game's own cheats. If he was actually looking to amass achievements with little effort, then I've no sympathy.
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oh that's why i cant play 
oh more serious note. Gj blizzard keep this up
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Its sad that they cant prevent hacking. The damage has been done.
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No using custom hotkeys will not get you banned. As far as I understand from reading forums, only people who used confirmed 'hacks' were banned or suspended. I was for instance so stupid to use the Kelsat trainer twice after I completed the campaign to toy a bit around with some missions that I thought were fun. Unfortunately, that got me suspended for 14 days.... Although I understand that it is impossible to make a difference between all the players and I totally take responsibillity, I think 14 days is harsh for such a minor violation. For me Starcraft is about the multiplayer and cheating in multiplayer is ruining game experience for others. Offcourse, following the EULA, cheating in singleplayer, even for once, is a violation. Unfortunately, Blizzard did not sent me a warning after I used it. It would've been enough, I really don't care about singleplayer whatsoever. So for everybody: be warned! You will get banned even if you use it in SP for once!
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They didn't get all of them there is still a couple that I have confirmed busted and reported to blizzard that are still here. Fail Blizzard Fail
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What about using something like SC2Gears or SC2Rar to save your replays in another folder and renamed will that get ppl banned?
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On October 01 2010 20:03 WilbertK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 17:21 Benshin88 wrote:I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts  ( I don't get that. What do you get out of playing with maphacks? Apparently you don't want to get better than your opponents. Then what is your goal in playing video games?
Better than your opponents? It's LoD. Using maphack means you don't have to travel further than necessary to where you want to go. I've never used maphack but this is obviously the reason.
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On October 02 2010 00:42 Fantistic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 20:03 WilbertK wrote:On October 01 2010 17:21 Benshin88 wrote:I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts  ( I don't get that. What do you get out of playing with maphacks? Apparently you don't want to get better than your opponents. Then what is your goal in playing video games? Better than your opponents? It's LoD. Using maphack means you don't have to travel further than necessary to where you want to go. I've never used maphack but this is obviously the reason. He meant what do you get as a player - it isn't rewarding to play with cheats. Obviously, winning will be a lot easier and that's the "gain", so to speak, but it has no value.
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On October 02 2010 00:01 Sepp wrote: No using custom hotkeys will not get you banned. As far as I understand from reading forums, only people who used confirmed 'hacks' were banned or suspended. I was for instance so stupid to use the Kelsat trainer twice after I completed the campaign to toy a bit around with some missions that I thought were fun. Unfortunately, that got me suspended for 14 days.... Although I understand that it is impossible to make a difference between all the players and I totally take responsibillity, I think 14 days is harsh for such a minor violation. For me Starcraft is about the multiplayer and cheating in multiplayer is ruining game experience for others. Offcourse, following the EULA, cheating in singleplayer, even for once, is a violation. Unfortunately, Blizzard did not sent me a warning after I used it. It would've been enough, I really don't care about singleplayer whatsoever. So for everybody: be warned! You will get banned even if you use it in SP for once!
Hacking to get ahead in single player is not a minor infraction. People do actually work hard to get achievements legitimately. You going in and getting these points is just as bad as someone else going in and getting free points on the ladder. I think 14 days is a decent amount of time for a suspension. I am glad it is not only 2-3 day bans. Part of multiplayer is comparing yourself to others, achievements is just another way of doing that. Blizzard did give you a warning.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/809157#c-801760439
It's right there.
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would be nice if they erased all the records of those who got banned in multiplayer and refund the point lost to their opponents (especially drophackers).
probably can't do the same to maphackers and other cheaters cause some people do still lose even if they cheat
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Based on some of the comments in this thread saying "Psh, only 5000, way to let us down again, Blizzard", im curious as to what people believe the Hacker to Non-Hacker ratio actually is.
As it stands, if there are about 3 million users, and 5000 of them just got banned.. thats 1 in 600. Lets be REALLY generous and say that maybe 1 in 300 people hack. They just eliminated 50% of the hacker pool with one swipe of the hammer.
I honestly think 1 in 300 is over stating it as well.. Ive played over 300 games and not once have i seen it. I think you'll find plenty of people with more games played saying the same thing.
A lot of people seem disappointed.. I'm actually impressed.
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On October 02 2010 01:07 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 00:42 Fantistic wrote:On October 01 2010 20:03 WilbertK wrote:On October 01 2010 17:21 Benshin88 wrote:I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts  ( I don't get that. What do you get out of playing with maphacks? Apparently you don't want to get better than your opponents. Then what is your goal in playing video games? Better than your opponents? It's LoD. Using maphack means you don't have to travel further than necessary to where you want to go. I've never used maphack but this is obviously the reason. He meant what do you get as a player - it isn't rewarding to play with cheats. Obviously, winning will be a lot easier and that's the "gain", so to speak, but it has no value. Have you never played D2? You dont 'win' in that game. You just go around collecting stuff. Most of your time is spent running through the game just looking for the door to the next section of the map. People use map hacks to cut down on the boring time you spend running around not doing anything fun.
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On October 01 2010 23:55 EchOne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2010 23:51 Rannasha wrote: On a Dutch general IT forum I frequent someone has reported being banned for only using a single player trainer that gives extra credits. So assuming this is true, it indicates that Blizzard doesn't only ban for multiplayer reasons and also has other ways to detect cheats besides player reports. It's good news if Blizzard checks for code injection, though too bad for the fella caught... he should've just used the game's own cheats. If he was actually looking to amass achievements with little effort, then I've no sympathy.
There has been a process called warden since WoW first came out that scans your computer for hacks. I suspect this responsible for almost 100% of the bans since many players are as mature as a 2 year old and blames every loss they have on hacking and reports everyone they see. The only way player reporting can be trusted is when many different people independently report one person.
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Well it's good, but I still don't understand why they don't just do it continually...
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5000 just seems like a ridiculously small ban wave imo.
On the other hand it's nice to see them perm banning on first offense.
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It’s nice that b.net is doing something but I got banned for NOTHING !!! The only new think I install in past 2 weeks is G13 game pad, will that get me banned ? I file a complaint in to blizz but they probably get 1000’s of those so my chances of getting revue are non. I still have extra copy of Starcraft II I will use for now but if they banned that one too I simply won’t bay another one… (it’s not about $60, I got $ but I just don’t have time to for bull crap.) Please let me know if anyone else have similar problem.
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On October 01 2010 11:32 StarStruck wrote: Something tells me there are a lot more than 5000 players hacking :/
Banning 5k people still makes the others think twice about using their hacks in games from now on. Even if some still use them I'm sure others will put it down out of fear of being banned too. Or I hope so ><
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i was expecting more those better be perm bans otherwise this is useless using hacks for Sp is lol ban waves are pretty fail though, it should be automated detections/banning, i dont see why not.
if you want to see someone u know got banned, check out match history to see if they have played since announcement.
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I totally support this ban as long as they ban hackers. Hopefully, nobody innocent gets banned.
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Wow, I guess I didn't get banned.
This guy I played told me it was gonna happen, since I was obviously hacking by having a 60 food army at 10 minutes while he was teching bling muta roach hydra off one base with 17 drones.
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On October 02 2010 01:07 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 00:42 Fantistic wrote:On October 01 2010 20:03 WilbertK wrote:On October 01 2010 17:21 Benshin88 wrote:I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts  ( I don't get that. What do you get out of playing with maphacks? Apparently you don't want to get better than your opponents. Then what is your goal in playing video games? Better than your opponents? It's LoD. Using maphack means you don't have to travel further than necessary to where you want to go. I've never used maphack but this is obviously the reason. He meant what do you get as a player - it isn't rewarding to play with cheats. Obviously, winning will be a lot easier and that's the "gain", so to speak, but it has no value.
Dude.. have you people never played D2 or something? Who DIDN'T hack in that game? You'd almost have to be an idiot to subject yourself to wandering around a bunch of randomly generated levels repeatedly doing nothing but killing worthless mobs. Everyone in D2 maphacked because it was the easiest way to find the bosses quickly to farm them for items, which was pretty much all D2 amounted to.
I don't know a single D2 player that didn't at least maphack back in the day nor did I know any players that didn't have duped items or ITH's. The reason nobody including Blizzard really cared was that there was nothing to "win" in the game... It was an endless item farming and e-penis measuring contest.
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On October 02 2010 04:21 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 01:07 Djzapz wrote:On October 02 2010 00:42 Fantistic wrote:On October 01 2010 20:03 WilbertK wrote:On October 01 2010 17:21 Benshin88 wrote:I remember i hacked in diablo 2 LOD. I always used the trusty old map hack. Lost like 3 CD keys because of them and many accounts  ( I don't get that. What do you get out of playing with maphacks? Apparently you don't want to get better than your opponents. Then what is your goal in playing video games? Better than your opponents? It's LoD. Using maphack means you don't have to travel further than necessary to where you want to go. I've never used maphack but this is obviously the reason. He meant what do you get as a player - it isn't rewarding to play with cheats. Obviously, winning will be a lot easier and that's the "gain", so to speak, but it has no value. Have you never played D2? You dont 'win' in that game. You just go around collecting stuff. Most of your time is spent running through the game just looking for the door to the next section of the map. People use map hacks to cut down on the boring time you spend running around not doing anything fun. lol... I used to love when someone in my party had map hacks because some of those dungeons can get ridiculous. Never used them myself though.
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On October 02 2010 06:04 PLxDratewka wrote: It’s nice that b.net is doing something but I got banned for NOTHING !!! The only new think I install in past 2 weeks is G13 game pad, will that get me banned ? I file a complaint in to blizz but they probably get 1000’s of those so my chances of getting revue are non. I still have extra copy of Starcraft II I will use for now but if they banned that one too I simply won’t bay another one… (it’s not about $60, I got $ but I just don’t have time to for bull crap.) Please let me know if anyone else have similar problem.
I doubt it's because of your G13...
C'mon Blizzard doesn't ban people for nothing...
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kudos to Blizz..but i really don't give shit if my opponent beat me by using hack...
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Blizzard really isn't known for being very strict at all in terms of its bans so you can pretty much be sure that the people actually being caught were either really unlucky or incredibly blatant about what they were doing. I highly doubt Blizzard is going to go out of their way to ban you for having a G13...
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I don't understand how any of you are gauging the size of this ban wave. You don't have *any* idea how many hackers there are on BNet. So how do you know what proportion of hackers have been banned? How do you justify any estimate you make?
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On October 02 2010 08:56 blacktoss wrote: I don't understand how any of you are gauging the size of this ban wave. You don't have *any* idea how many hackers there are on BNet. So how do you know what proportion of hackers have been banned? How do you justify any estimate you make?
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On October 02 2010 08:56 blacktoss wrote: I don't understand how any of you are gauging the size of this ban wave. You don't have *any* idea how many hackers there are on BNet. So how do you know what proportion of hackers have been banned? How do you justify any estimate you make? well for starters approximately 3-4 of the most commonly used public/private hacks still go undetected
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On October 02 2010 06:04 PLxDratewka wrote: It’s nice that b.net is doing something but I got banned for NOTHING !!! The only new think I install in past 2 weeks is G13 game pad, will that get me banned ? I file a complaint in to blizz but they probably get 1000’s of those so my chances of getting revue are non. I still have extra copy of Starcraft II I will use for now but if they banned that one too I simply won’t bay another one… (it’s not about $60, I got $ but I just don’t have time to for bull crap.) Please let me know if anyone else have similar problem. My friend botted in WoW and he got pretty specific description of what was the reasoning for banning in his e-mail. Even identified the application he was using.
So check your mail. Look at what it says and take action depending on what it says.
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Why do they give hackers second chances...?
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On October 02 2010 10:18 Genome852 wrote: Why do they give hackers second chances...? Um, these are permanent bans.
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It's good to see them do this. It reminds me back then when playing BW/SC & there were hacks everywhere....
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damn man took them long enough to pick up the old ban hammer, probably has a shit load of dust on it
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On October 02 2010 10:27 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 10:18 Genome852 wrote: Why do they give hackers second chances...? Um, these are permanent bans.
Um, they are bans + suspensions, probably with a lot more suspensions than bans.
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On October 02 2010 10:34 Genome852 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 10:27 hifriend wrote:On October 02 2010 10:18 Genome852 wrote: Why do they give hackers second chances...? Um, these are permanent bans. Um, they are bans + suspensions, probably with a lot more suspensions than bans. Strange I'm certain all bans are actually perm bans. I have no idea why they wrote that.
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On October 02 2010 09:48 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 08:56 blacktoss wrote: I don't understand how any of you are gauging the size of this ban wave. You don't have *any* idea how many hackers there are on BNet. So how do you know what proportion of hackers have been banned? How do you justify any estimate you make? well for starters approximately 3-4 of the most commonly used public/private hacks still go undetected
[citation needed]
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On October 02 2010 10:39 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 10:34 Genome852 wrote:On October 02 2010 10:27 hifriend wrote:On October 02 2010 10:18 Genome852 wrote: Why do they give hackers second chances...? Um, these are permanent bans. Um, they are bans + suspensions, probably with a lot more suspensions than bans. Strange I'm certain all bans are actually perm bans. I have no idea why they wrote that. "We recently took action, including suspensions and bans, on over 5,000 StarCraft II players who were in violation of the Battle.net Terms of Use for cheating and/or using hack programs while playing."
The 5000 player count includes bans, suspensions, and other "actions"
Ladder is a full-of-hacker joke, custom games are teh gosu
*I'm in diamond, but that doesn't matter, considering how ~80% of diamond players are trash
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ban them all and next time plz upload a list with IDs + real life name + address!
funny how they wasted mommys and daddys $$$/€€€
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They deserve it for not reading the terms and condition.
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Well, the guy I reported got banned so I am happy :D. My game against him now no longer will load the score screen and is listed as a something undefined error. He used some kind of map hack and a hack where when his team lost it actually made both teams lose with no points gained or lost and a result "Game Result Disagree". He did this at least 14 different games from what I saw on his profile at the time.
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Good thing they are kicking the ass of the people who sold the hacks. The more pressure that is put on them, the more risky they may feel about just making a bunch of them willy nilly.
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These bans were done nearly 2 months ago, your rep is from today I assume...also you can use the "TL hacker database" thread to 'report' suspicious activity.
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