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[Interview] GSL RO16 Day 1 Cool vs TOP winner - Page 4

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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 24 2010 19:31 GMT
#61
On September 25 2010 03:39 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 03:36 Weavel wrote:
Just a question. Are you going to translate all RO16 interviews or only specific ones? And of course thank you!


there really isnt enough demand for other RO16 interviews, so only this one, for now, unless you guys can convince me to translate the other ones

please do!
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nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
September 24 2010 19:32 GMT
#62
seems to be a very emotional player, whether thats positive or negative is yet to be seen, i really cannot wait for tester's game i hope his apparent nervousness doesnt effect his play because hes so solid, as for cools games yes the terran could of killed him but cool capitalized on the mistake and therefore no one can state he didnt deserve it.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 24 2010 19:37 GMT
#63
- You started game 3 by receiving a lot of damage in the early game.
▲ I thought I lost so I thought of just announcing GG, but when I just played like I have practiced things went well. My opponent didn't even use Medivacs and started collecting Thors, and because I thought I lost, I excluded everything and only made Drones. But my opponent didn't come attacking during that time, and later on when I saw that his Thors weren't upgraded, I figured I had won.


TOP had the game in the bag, why he didn't take it is a mystery to me right now. I am glad to see a Zerg move on, but that match just did not make sense to me. Any other terran would have dropped some tanks or thors, killed his expansions, moved in earlier, kept on harassing, not let him expanded.. so much. But TOP just turtled and massed thors....

*shrug*

Just wish TLO was in TOPs spot there at the end when the banshee got the 9th kill.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 24 2010 19:44 GMT
#64
Thanks for the interview :D
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 24 2010 19:45 GMT
#65
Thanks for the interview!
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
September 24 2010 19:46 GMT
#66
On September 25 2010 01:23 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 01:20 attackfighter wrote:
On September 25 2010 01:17 Fantistic wrote:
He deserved it.
The whole series was entertaining.


Not really, the second game was very poorly thought out cheese and in the third game the Terran played VERY poorly after the first 5 minutes (Cool even mentions how he just turtled with Thors and didn't upgrade/expand/pressure).


Why poorly played in game 2? He would have made huge damage if only terran didn't make blue flame hellions.


And mutas would always do huge damage if terrans didn't have turrets, thors, marines or a combination of them all.

This "if" is a funny one.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
September 24 2010 19:52 GMT
#67
What's interesting to me is we're in Ro16 and here's a guy who build two Baneling Nests and two Roach Warrens (twice in two diff games), should have been crushed in game 3 but TOP turtled and he still won.

This is taking nothing away from Cool, but there is something really interesting about the first few months of this game. It's not as smooth and tight as BW was (though I'm not sure anyone expected it to be). It shows even the top players have a ways to go to really hit that skill ceiling. It's a really interesting time to be watching the game unfold this way.
STX Fighting!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 24 2010 19:52 GMT
#68
On September 25 2010 04:46 Aldehyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 01:23 Alpina wrote:
On September 25 2010 01:20 attackfighter wrote:
On September 25 2010 01:17 Fantistic wrote:
He deserved it.
The whole series was entertaining.


Not really, the second game was very poorly thought out cheese and in the third game the Terran played VERY poorly after the first 5 minutes (Cool even mentions how he just turtled with Thors and didn't upgrade/expand/pressure).


Why poorly played in game 2? He would have made huge damage if only terran didn't make blue flame hellions.


And mutas would always do huge damage if terrans didn't have turrets, thors, marines or a combination of them all.

This "if" is a funny one.

I thought that Cool was going to become the most popular player in the world in game 2. he had 3 opportunities he could have started a new nydus to trap the hellions in place so we could kill them. had he done that, i think he would have won the game, and it would have been one of the coolest plays.
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
September 24 2010 20:11 GMT
#69
On September 25 2010 01:15 attackfighter wrote:
Interesting, he seems to think the patch helped Zerg a lot. Contrasts with idra's recent statement regarding it.


You think? Seems to me like he was just talking out of relief. He admitted that he "should've" lost - saying that a race is fine because it gets to macro up to 90 drones without building much defense is kind of ignorant.
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Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
September 24 2010 21:37 GMT
#70
good hopefully some of the zerg noobs will stfu now, grats to Cool.. good to see someones adapting rather than complaining
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
September 24 2010 21:42 GMT
#71
Note to Blizzard, the ultralisk attack bug is keeping zerg from not sucking. Please don't take it out.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
September 24 2010 22:29 GMT
#72
Thanks for this.

Glad to know that Cool isn't going to switch. Fruitseller Fighting!
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
cromat
Profile Joined May 2010
Afghanistan100 Posts
September 24 2010 22:34 GMT
#73
On September 25 2010 04:37 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
- You started game 3 by receiving a lot of damage in the early game.
▲ I thought I lost so I thought of just announcing GG, but when I just played like I have practiced things went well. My opponent didn't even use Medivacs and started collecting Thors, and because I thought I lost, I excluded everything and only made Drones. But my opponent didn't come attacking during that time, and later on when I saw that his Thors weren't upgraded, I figured I had won.


TOP had the game in the bag, why he didn't take it is a mystery to me right now. I am glad to see a Zerg move on, but that match just did not make sense to me. Any other terran would have dropped some tanks or thors, killed his expansions, moved in earlier, kept on harassing, not let him expanded.. so much. But TOP just turtled and massed thors....

*shrug*

Just wish TLO was in TOPs spot there at the end when the banshee got the 9th kill.

Maybe theres a gambling ring in starcraft 2 already
hello
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
September 24 2010 22:35 GMT
#74
great news
coLCruncher fighting!
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
September 24 2010 22:36 GMT
#75
On September 25 2010 01:23 Alpina wrote:

Why poorly played in game 2? He would have made huge damage if only terran didn't make blue flame hellions.


By the time blue flame was out, cool already lost.

He would run his lings in single-file against a choke held by marines and helions. He did not send any to harass workers. Pretty much just 1a kind of stuff.

Proof by Legislation: An entire body of (sort-of) elected officials is more correct than all of the known laws of physics, math and science as a whole. -Scott McIntyre
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 22:44:18
September 24 2010 22:43 GMT
#76
On September 25 2010 01:26 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 01:23 Alpina wrote:
On September 25 2010 01:20 attackfighter wrote:
On September 25 2010 01:17 Fantistic wrote:
He deserved it.
The whole series was entertaining.


Not really, the second game was very poorly thought out cheese and in the third game the Terran played VERY poorly after the first 5 minutes (Cool even mentions how he just turtled with Thors and didn't upgrade/expand/pressure).


Why poorly played in game 2? He would have made huge damage if only terran didn't make blue flame hellions.


Yeah, I'd say it was very well played by Cool, but oGsTop just had great game sense to expect Ling/Bling play and upgrade blue flame after seeing that Cool didn't expand.

No, it wasn't well played. His control was horrendous and decision making was stupid, which is pretty surprising since that was the only thing he needed to do at the time. Blue flame didn't even come out immediately.

Seriously, how you can watch that game and think Cool played well is beyond me.

Edit**Nightfall beat me to it.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Easy772
Profile Joined May 2010
374 Posts
September 24 2010 22:44 GMT
#77
Woulda been so mad if I didn't watch the game this morning and i saw this spoiler
"The best way to improve is to play one matchup on one map doing one strategy.. if you are good at one strategy you are a good player, if you are okay at many strategies you are an okay player at best" -Day[9] 181
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
September 24 2010 22:46 GMT
#78
On September 25 2010 07:44 Easy772 wrote:
Woulda been so mad if I didn't watch the game this morning and i saw this spoiler

Then don't click on the thread? Durr?
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
rally_point
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada458 Posts
September 24 2010 23:54 GMT
#79
Thanks for the interview!

I get the butterflies by just reading this haha
pencilcase
Profile Joined September 2007
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-25 01:25:38
September 25 2010 01:24 GMT
#80
On September 25 2010 07:36 Nightfall.589 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 01:23 Alpina wrote:

Why poorly played in game 2? He would have made huge damage if only terran didn't make blue flame hellions.


By the time blue flame was out, cool already lost.

He would run his lings in single-file against a choke held by marines and helions. He did not send any to harass workers. Pretty much just 1a kind of stuff.


Actually you need to keep the units away from the workers. If he had moved lings in to harass the workers first, that would only have helped TOP as he would have been able to surround his hellions with a bunch of SCVs, making them impossible to damage and able to be repaired. The best choice was going after the units and trying to wipe them all out with lings before the SCVs could get involved. And the longer Cool waited before attacking, the more units TOP would have.

If you watch his ling control, you'll notice that he does a nice job of trying to maneuver them around in order to better surround the hellions. It's just that hellions are very difficult to catch offcreep by speedlings. TOP had great hellion control and was constantly moving and shooting to avoid being caught.

I can't say that the micro was absolutely perfect by either side, but to call it bad decision making or "1a kind of stuff" is just ridiculous hyperbole. It was a build order loss pure and simple, and no amount of micro could have made Cool win the game at that point. Had TOP gone fast tank or Thor instead, Cool's attack would have had a much better chance of working.
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