IdrA Speaks On: Patch 1.1 - Page 4

On September 24 2010 11:20 Xunaka wrote:



Please continue to have that mentality, as a Protoss player I would greatly appreciate if everyone thought tanks cannot be used in TvP. The reality is they are just as strong as they were pre patch 1.1 but that isn't even the point of what Idra is saying.

I think a lot of the problems just stem from the way Zerg units are compared to either Protoss or Terran. Zerg units are just very one dimensional and are designed in a very gimmicky sense.

Zerglings : Weak Melee unit very easily massable but later in game you just lose them in masses
The gimmick is the massing of the unit

Roaches : Moderatly strong Melee/Range unit I label it as such because of their very weak range
Gimmick is that you need speed to prevent them from being annihilated by kiting, Burrow Micro/movement make them a decent gimmick

Banelings: Total gimmick unit.. you suicide them at units I don't think this needs explanation

Hydralisk: Comes to be one of the most solid units that you will find in the Zerg army, it is well rounded and diverse however its gimmick is that you suffer from Damage/vs survivability they are simply weak I believe the best term to describe them is Glass Cannon

Mutalisk: Another well rounded solid unit.. (seems to be the common ground for zerg tier 2) Solid damage for cost ratio, I don't personally find these to be gimmicky

Infestor : Is medium to average as a caster, I think in comparrison to Ravens and Templar its a bit weak, infested Terran is gimicky. Fungal growth is decent to good, however it is nowhere near as useful as Storm/HSM/PDD


Corruptor: Gimmicky anti air unit, corruption spell is a bit of a gimmick most of the time the 10% wont make a difference because of how many you have. (No way to attack ground units like Vikings/Phoenix) (Massive oversight in my opinion)

Ultralisk: Strong tanking melee unit, Gimmick is that its a ground only attack tier 3 unit. That suffers from serious path finding issues. I think the Ultra could be an outstanding unit if I didn't lose them to the games AI sending them to their death or getting stuck on random terrain/units

While I like the idea of Micro.. I shouldn't have to Micro a unit just to make up for AI

Broodlord: Very strong siege unit, attacks ground only can severely screw with unit targeting against a non micro opponent. Once again i feel as though this unit is limited by its anti ground only where as BC and Carrier both have Anti air/ground capability.


I'm fully aware that each race his its own gimmick unit though Terran seems to have the most well rounded out of them all. the simple fact is that zerg suffers from a one dimensional creation of almost every unit.. they all serve only one role and that one role alone where as the racial counterparts are far less one dimensional units.

On September 24 2010 11:16 TheToast wrote:
Cannon rushing isn't necessary for protoss, a lot of gold and plat players are doing it just because it's easy wins. While it does seem a bit overpowered, lets face it a player who does good scouting will beat a cannon rushing player any day.