EPTFruitseller (Cool) may change his race in GSL #2 - Page 78
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his_shadow
United States48 Posts
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Chronicle
161 Posts
On September 28 2010 04:39 maliceee wrote: HAHA, i didn't catch that. Chronicle, I gotta say that was one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Read your own posts sometime and you'll have a new champion in minutes. Every race has 3 tier 1 units (if you exclude queens) and you'd be braindead to assume otherwise. Edit - Oh wow I hit the 5 key by accident because its right next to the 4 key so you try and debunk a whole argument on a typo? Man your desperate. | ||
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AJMcSpiffy
United States1154 Posts
On September 28 2010 13:31 Chronicle wrote: Read your own posts sometime and you'll have a new champion in minutes. Every race has 3 tier 1 units (if you exclude queens) and you'd be braindead to assume otherwise. Edit - Oh wow I hit the 5 key by accident because its right next to the 4 key so you try and debunk a whole argument on a typo? Man your desperate. How bout the fact that you take out the High Templar but leave in the Infestor, counting it twice in fact since it can spawn Infested Terran (so should we count autoturrets and PDD for Terran?) Or that you take out the Mothership, a unit with an actual attack, just because you think it doesn't count as a real unit? Hell, why not just count drones twice since they can turn into Spine and Spore Crawlers? There, now Zerg has 13 units and all the QQing can stop. They're officially balanced. Those are the reasons your logic is flawed, not just that you made a (hilarious) typo. | ||
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
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petzergling
538 Posts
On September 28 2010 14:12 dbddbddb wrote: ITT: zerg complaining about their race being UP when they have at least 50-60% win rate on ladder. thissssssssssssssssssssssssssss | ||
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
On September 28 2010 14:12 dbddbddb wrote: ITT: zerg complaining about their race being UP when they have at least 50-60% win rate on ladder. The ladder system makes you get 50%. Being at 50% means nothing =\ | ||
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TheTuna
United States286 Posts
On September 28 2010 13:18 his_shadow wrote: Blizzard is failing. How the hell did a developer just say that at the highest levels things are pretty even? After statement like that I loose hope. Korean Top 20- 9 Terran, 7 Zerg, 4 Protoss. | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
It was pretty much one of the most hilaribad posts ever. On September 28 2010 15:11 TheTuna wrote: Korean Top 20- 9 Terran, 7 Zerg, 4 Protoss. GSL RO16 - 2 Zerg. GSL RO8 - 1 Zerg. Look I have numbers too! | ||
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
On September 28 2010 15:35 Subversion wrote: Chronicle I think you need to lick your wounds and walk away from this one man. It was pretty much one of the most hilaribad posts ever. GSL RO16 - 2 Zerg. GSL RO8 - 1 Zerg. Look I have numbers too! i think right it is really hard to balance the game as it is because the zerg imbalance really only affects the top players. if blizzard was to buff zerg so easily, then every zerg would be winning all their games. using tournament results is not very accurate, there have been tournaments where all protoss have been knocked out and only having zerg/terran left. but its still a fact that pretty much every final or semi final is mainly tvt | ||
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Bulkers
Poland509 Posts
I do agree that terrans might have some advantages, most of the tournaments is TvT since quarterfinals, sometimes a Protoss players takes win from terrans once in a time, but Zerg didn't win anything lately. Then I looked at last Go4Sc2 and I see dimaga losing in round 3 because he did stupid proxy hatch on DO with spine crawler push and he lost badly to 1000 rating toss. So to be honest I think little changes to terran, like mule colddown, and very little tweaks for some units, and the game would be very close to balanced. | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On September 28 2010 17:23 dbddbddb wrote: i think right it is really hard to balance the game as it is because the zerg imbalance really only affects the top players. if blizzard was to buff zerg so easily, then every zerg would be winning all their games. using tournament results is not very accurate, there have been tournaments where all protoss have been knocked out and only having zerg/terran left. but its still a fact that pretty much every final or semi final is mainly tvt Hang on, you think a race being the hardest to play, the weakest and the least forgiving only affects those players who are least likely to suffer from these drawbacks? Seriously? | ||
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cyprin
United States1105 Posts
He's so good with zerg, I imagine he'd crush everyone with T... | ||
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QkDown
United States214 Posts
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Zog
57 Posts
On September 28 2010 17:37 Bulkers wrote: I don't understand something, they all said that they will change race and stuff and after that IdrA and Dimaga take 2nd and 3rd place @ IEM, Cool said he will change race and next day he beat one of the best terrans in the world. I do agree that terrans might have some advantages, most of the tournaments is TvT since quarterfinals, sometimes a Protoss players takes win from terrans once in a time, but Zerg didn't win anything lately. Then I looked at last Go4Sc2 and I see dimaga losing in round 3 because he did stupid proxy hatch on DO with spine crawler push and he lost badly to 1000 rating toss. So to be honest I think little changes to terran, like mule colddown, and very little tweaks for some units, and the game would be very close to balanced. Yeah, sadly (or hopefully, depends on your point of view), Zerg players threaten but don't take action. The imbalance seems more than just a little off for a lot of players. I don't really know if that's true since Zerg players still manage to win some games. The main problem of the top Zerg pro seems to be T drops (which is not yet a problem at my lower mid diamond level). Buffing Spore Crawlers would really be beneficial, or/and nerfing medivacs speed which is insane compared to the other races (and without upgrades...). At my lower level (900pts) just increasing roach armor to 2 could maybe make this unit more viable against marines. Right now roaches don't serve any purpose but to counter reapers and hellions, and more generally soak damage. They even get outmatched by lings -_-. But maybe 2 armor is too much. Not gonna change anytime soon however. As for Dimaga, he should really switch to Terran if all he does is cheese with Z. | ||
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
On September 28 2010 17:43 cuppatea wrote: Hang on, you think a race being the hardest to play, the weakest and the least forgiving only affects those players who are least likely to suffer from these drawbacks? Seriously? what i'm saying is that assuming win/lose ratios are more or less even between races, but zerg being less represented in some tournaments, buffing the race as a whole may fix tourneys but break the ladders. | ||
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Kvz
United States463 Posts
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Viruuus
Germany451 Posts
and Cool will definetly reconsider it, after he lost to Inca (my prediction, not a spoiler  ) | ||
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
On September 28 2010 18:40 Viruuus wrote: As far as i have heard, Dimaga already switched to T? and Cool will definetly reconsider it, after he lost to Inca (my prediction, not a spoiler ) ^^ funny post | ||
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MoneyHypeMike
Canada305 Posts
 + Show Spoiler + Cool is going to Semis guys We got a zerg fightinggggggggggg !!!!! | ||
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