EPTUltras vs Repaired PF - Page 48
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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cykalu
Australia30 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:42 DooMDash wrote: I'm sorry but 1 ultralisk should not mean abandon base or you lose all your SCV's and PF. I wish Blizzard would get their act together as this is pretty game breaking. I hope we don't see it in the GSL. 1 Blue Flamed Hellion should not mean abandon base or you lose all your scv/drone/probe. c wut i did dere? edit: Or a Tank/Thor cliff abuse. And these units comes out 20 minutes earlier than Ultralisks... | ||
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csfield
United States206 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:42 DooMDash wrote: It's not working how they said it would work. They gave the example of it doing more damage to depots which would be tightly built together. They had no intentions of making units magically die with out being hit by the actual pincers. It looks ridiculous and it's broken as all hell. No one on here believes it should stay, no one is that stupid. I'm sorry but 1 ultralisk should not mean abandon base or you lose all your SCV's and PF. I wish Blizzard would get their act together as this is pretty game breaking. I hope we don't see it in the GSL. I'm not saying it's not silly. I'm saying it's not a bug. They made the exact change they said they would make. They just didn't fully think through the consequences of that change. That's not a bug. Blizzard called it an "issue" which is a good word to use here, but it's not a glitch or bug. I hope they just fix all splash damage to center on the point of attack instead of the unit. This kind of splash doesn't make any more sense for siege tanks than it does for utras. They said they're going to fix it and in the meantime it's really not game-breaking and it's not any scarier or more dangerous than a dropship with marines or maruders. I don't know what's funnier in the thread on battlenet: the terrans crying about it or the zerg crying about blizzard saying they're going to fix it. | ||
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SlowBlink
United States102 Posts
You fail to notice that this concerns all terran building, now you can't repair anything ultras attack? How's that fair. If you try to repair your wall your scvs and stuff standing next to it will die? I'm not going to jugde weather or not this is a bug I'm just saying it's broken. Meanwhile: zerg can't repair anything that anything attacks. Derpderp zerg is borked. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:47 cykalu wrote: 1 Blue Flamed Hellion should not mean abandon base or you lose all your scv/drone/probe. c wut i did dere? edit: Or a Tank/Thor cliff abuse. And these units comes out 20 minutes earlier than Ultralisks... Yes but Zerg isn't intended to have a PF, and they would have other units with that hatch. 250/150 extra in the bank as well compared to a PF. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:52 SlowBlink wrote: Meanwhile: zerg can't repair anything that anything attacks. Derpderp zerg is borked. You can transfusion. Cost nothing, great spell. | ||
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SlowBlink
United States102 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:52 DooMDash wrote: Yes but Zerg isn't intended to have a PF, and they would have other units with that hatch. 250/150 extra in the bank as well compared to a PF. 250/150 towards units that will ultimately die to the PF anyway. On September 23 2010 04:53 DooMDash wrote: You can transfusion. Cost nothing, great spell. Right, because all drones now have transfusion and can instantly spam it on a hatchery once it's under attack. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:54 SlowBlink wrote: 250/150 towards units that will ultimately die to the PF anyway. I'm talking defensively as he was talking drops against a hatch / hellion ect. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
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ThereIsNoCowlvl
Denmark7 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:52 SlowBlink wrote: Meanwhile: zerg can't repair anything that anything attacks. Derpderp zerg is borked. Ehhhh Transfuse??? You click your queen then press t and click the building... Don't tell anybody! | ||
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Sairon
47 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:43 ThereIsNoCowlvl wrote: You fail to notice that this concerns all terran building, now you can't repair anything ultras attack? How's that fair. If you try to repair your wall your scvs and stuff standing next to it will die? I'm not going to jugde weather or not this is a bug I'm just saying it's broken. I think it's fairly fair, kill the ultra, then repair. It adds strategic flavor. | ||
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intergalactic
Canada428 Posts
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
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boblzer0
84 Posts
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Kinmaul
United States104 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:42 cykalu wrote: DotA actually worked in that way to some extent.. every hero is OP in one way or another.  ! Especially those 5x AoE denial combo ^_^ ES, Tide, Void, etc. But there was always a way to take them down. Singling them out. Or in this case, avoid repairing/camping next to your buildings.Also, just because you lost those 30 SCVs... you could drop alllllllllllll your mules to recoup the losses.. I'm sure you've seen those high level plays where Terran comes back from the brink of death plenty of times. If you build PF's at all your expansions you don't have many mules to drop. Also you are looking at TvZ without considering how this change effects other matchups. What about PvZ or ZvZ? The Ultra AoE will quickly make work of probes, drones, and larva as well once the ultra(s) start hitting the nexus/hatchery. Is this needed to make ultras viable in those matchups? If PF w/ mass repair is deemed OP by Blizzard they can easily reduce it's power in much more resonable (and logical) ways. Reduce the damage on the PF, reduce/remove the AoE from the PF's attack, cap the number of scvs that can repair a PF, reduce the rate of repair, lower the armor on the PF. All of these changes focus on the problem of the PF being too strong and reduce its power. Claiming that this kind of AoE, which has been stated by Blizzard to be an unintended side effect of the ram removal, is "needed" because PF's are too strong is ridiculous. Edit: Anywho I'm done posting here. Way too many bitter people posting here who have lost perspective and trolls just looking to get people riled up. Logic doesn't work with people who don't want to argue logically. | ||
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Grond
599 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:45 DooMDash wrote: It is a bug though... Read the thread, it's not a bug. It will be changed in a future patch but don't hold your breath. | ||
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MegaBUD
Canada179 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:59 Grond wrote: Read the thread, it's not a bug. It will be changed in a future patch but don't hold your breath. Its a bug and its gonna be fix soon... like the replay and some other issue... Also i think theres a bug with the previous saved game for single player (blizz really love to fix single player) | ||
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:59 Grond wrote: Read the thread, it's not a bug. It will be changed in a future patch but don't hold your breath. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627980105 | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
On September 23 2010 04:59 Grond wrote: Read the thread, it's not a bug. It will be changed in a future patch but don't hold your breath. Dude Blizzard says its a bug. Did you not read thier post? | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On September 23 2010 05:00 MegaBUD wrote: Its a bug and its gonna be fix soon... like the replay and some other issue... Also i think theres a bug with the previous saved game for single player (blizz really love to fix single player) Please define a computer bug for us, then compare how cleave is related to that word | ||
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