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baconbits
United States419 Posts
On September 23 2010 01:42 XXXSmOke wrote: I understand but the fact 2 ultras end up with 25+ kills in a matter of 10 secs is a good sign of a game bug ruinging a match up so you have to actually leave some units (hello mauraders?) to defend instead of making a 150/150 investment on a planetary OPrtress and forgetting about it | ||
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anoobis
United States46 Posts
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dogabutila
United States1438 Posts
This is kinda ridiculous. Ultras are the only melee range splash right? I guess I can see how they made this error. | ||
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Kinmaul
United States104 Posts
As previously pointed out if Blizzard deems the PF overpowered they will nerf it. They could reduce the damage it deals and/or nerf/remove the AoE. They could also chose to cap the number of scvs that could repair a target. There are a lot of options available to them. What they WON'T do is make another unit even more ridiculous and claim to have fixed the problem. | ||
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Bad_Attitude
Italy51 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:32 Arcanewinds wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/Arcanewinds/Screenshot2010-09-2218_18_07.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/Arcanewinds/Screenshot2010-09-2218_13_07.jpg) Just tested this a little bit, absolutely insane imo. Should be hotfixed immediately. Some of us have qualifiers to play tonight >  How this can be seen as balanced by some people is beyond me, needs to be fixed asap. wow that's even worse than what I experienced in game. I didn't think it was this big when I saw it in action... | ||
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Proxyles
Sweden27 Posts
On September 23 2010 00:49 lololol wrote: Ultras splash has always been different no matter the patch. No it works the exact same way as for example Archon splash | ||
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dogabutila
United States1438 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:09 gakkgakk wrote: The same function as sunkens and cannons really. Without it terran would have to use valuable supply for bunkers and tanks to defend expansions until they could send an army to reinforce. Except marauders can walk through spines and cannons and PF's can kill entire armies with only repair. Good example. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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detact
United States4 Posts
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lololol
5198 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:39 Proxyles wrote: No it works the exact same way as for example Archon splash You need glasses. | ||
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Kinmaul
United States104 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:39 Proxyles wrote: No it works the exact same way as for example Archon splash This is just plain wrong. Archon AoE is a fixed radius, and any units in the short "beam" also take damage. This has been tested and proved. The ONLY unit who has a dynamic AoE radius is the ultra and that's the root of this problem. Are you just making stuff up at this point? | ||
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
1. Blizzard decided not to test the new Ultralisk attack against repaired Planetary Fortresses even once. 2. Blizzard decided to test it, but right after they tested it and saw what happened, Will Smith broke into the room through the wall dressed up like his character from Men In Black, and while everyone at Blizzard was awestruck saying, "Wow, it's Will Smith!" he put on his sunglasses and wiped their memories and told them that the change worked as intended because MiB was a documentary and Will Smith wants to buff Zerg. | ||
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Nakas
United States148 Posts
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lololol
5198 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:51 HunterX11 wrote: How does Blizzard make a balance change because of a given situation, without testing that situation once before releasing the patch? I don't understand? There are only two possibilities: 1. Blizzard decided not to test the new Ultralisk attack against repaired Planetary Fortresses even once. 2. Blizzard decided to test it, but right after they tested it and saw what happened, Will Smith broke into the room through the wall dressed up like his character from Men In Black, and while everyone at Blizzard was awestruck saying, "Wow, it's Will Smith!" he put on his sunglasses and wiped their memories and told them that the change worked as intended because MiB was a documentary and Will Smith wants to buff Zerg. I'm pretty sure it's all Will Smith's fault. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
 I like the bug, but I'm sure even when it's patched up ultra's won't be "zomg nerfed to shit wtfbbq." Welcome change in the meantime to make up for all of the reaper harass and 5 rax rauder builds  On September 23 2010 02:54 Nakas wrote: It may look a bit funny, but balance-wise this is a step in the right direction. Give it time and I'm sure players will learn to adjust to avoid the splash. + Show Spoiler + lol I see what you did there | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:24 XXXSmOke wrote: Not true, tested this w a friend after losing that game. Had perfectly spread units then he would send an ultra to hit a thor. and my rauders who are definately out of the normal ultra splash dmg range were getting hit. He saying that you could've tested the same scenario before the patch and the result would've been the same, which is exactly the case. The only thing new is that they use the splash attack against buildings, while they didn't before the patch. | ||
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:51 HunterX11 wrote: How does Blizzard make a balance change because of a given situation, without testing that situation once before releasing the patch? I don't understand? There are only two possibilities: 1. Blizzard decided not to test the new Ultralisk attack against repaired Planetary Fortresses even once. 2. Blizzard decided to test it, but right after they tested it and saw what happened, Will Smith broke into the room through the wall dressed up like his character from Men In Black, and while everyone at Blizzard was awestruck saying, "Wow, it's Will Smith!" he put on his sunglasses and wiped their memories and told them that the change worked as intended because MiB was a documentary and Will Smith wants to buff Zerg. ^I wish they make MiBIII. But back on topic, a hot fix is prolly coming soon. Blizz said that the AoE vs building is meant for the smaller buildings, meaning that this is really a bug (however awesome). Personally, I kinda want the old ram animation, cuz they made it anyways, but with AoE. Is it so hard to add a damage radius? It's funny how by working on a small balance problem leads to something huge :o This is now Imbalisk. The guy talking about Archon splash radii may be saying that the splash zone is never at the center of the target unit, which is sorta true saying that its splash depends on unit size, but not exactly a problem. | ||
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Mrbustanut
121 Posts
On September 23 2010 02:32 Arcanewinds wrote: Just tested this a little bit, absolutely insane imo. Should be hotfixed immediately. Some of us have qualifiers to play tonight > How this can be seen as balanced by some people is beyond me, needs to be fixed asap. Wow...um that is pretty bad. Feel bad for anyone in a tourney that has to go against a zerg opponent that gets any ultras out. | ||
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