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lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
September 23 2010 01:55 GMT
#221
Wow, awesome post, seriously.

I really enjoyed reading it, thanks a lot, really well written and interesting.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
hkfosho
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada213 Posts
September 23 2010 01:56 GMT
#222
Great writeup OP!

But I couldn't help notice that you didn't give any credit to that zerg player from CJ(oooo i forgot his name :<) for discovering the muta stack trick, and instead gave july all the fame because of his embellishment.
Fizbin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada202 Posts
September 23 2010 01:57 GMT
#223
awesome
just the tip
brad drac
Profile Joined May 2010
Ireland202 Posts
September 23 2010 02:00 GMT
#224
On September 23 2010 10:56 hkfosho wrote:
Great writeup OP!

But I couldn't help notice that you didn't give any credit to that zerg player from CJ(oooo i forgot his name :<) for discovering the muta stack trick, and instead gave july all the fame because of his embellishment.

His name was shark.

Great videos indeed. I wasn't really around for the BW scene, so this was a great way to catch up.
Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know.
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 02:18:06
September 23 2010 02:05 GMT
#225
This was great, all of it. Major throwback to all of the RTS games I played in the 90s (man the 90s rocked) WarCraft 2, Red Alert, Age of Empires, and of course Total Annihilation (amazing game). Reading the evolution of the genre, especially from a competitive viewpoint, was excellent.

I think I shed a tear reading the StarCraft section. I was there from the beginning in 98 and I still remember reading battlereports from Maynard, Zileas, Agent911, [9]eVERLAST, and Pillars games and being blown away. If only I had a way to watch them play I thought. Fast forward a couple years later and I stumble on a Boxer FPoV at Game-Q's site (still don't know how I navigated that site in Korean) and it was like peering over Leonardo da Vinci's shoulder while he painted. I was blown away and I knew SC was unique and special from there on out. Been hooked and followed the scene ever since.

Also I gotta say this part was rather poignant for me
On September 22 2010 02:42 choboPEon wrote:
Simply put, StarCraft was very much a blank slate upon its release. Ideas as seemingly simple as transferring groups of workers to newly built expansions (rather than building them one at a time) were groundbreaking. It took a player the caliber of Miguel "Maynard" Bombach (a former Age of Empires player), probably the most dominant American player of all time, to invent a concept as simple as the worker-transfer. And it changed the game forever.
That "blank slate" feeling just isn't there for me with SC2, and I really miss the feeling of freshness.

High five, this was A+.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
September 23 2010 02:46 GMT
#226
Possible the best thread on teamliquid. Just reading about command and conquer, total annihilation, and age of empires brings tears to me eyes ;_;
Elevenst
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
September 23 2010 02:53 GMT
#227
wow i think i'm not the only one who was in awe while watching the videos and reading this post brilliant thank you so much for this chills and tears actually thanks!
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
September 23 2010 03:07 GMT
#228
Those videos were great. You have sufficiently ruined all the work I was going to do this-evening...but I don't even care
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 23 2010 03:09 GMT
#229
Amazing :D
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
September 23 2010 03:20 GMT
#230
Hehe I enjoyed this. I remember when there was no replays and to watch the tournaments Blizzard would host they would put a gif animation showing the mini map only from the beginning to end. You would wonder what was happening and saw who won only by the clear domination in the minimap. Thank god for replays now a days.
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 23 2010 04:07 GMT
#231
i forgot to mention you should start using spoiler tag for chapters so that people dont need to scroll down too much :<
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
arnold(soTa)
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden352 Posts
September 23 2010 05:04 GMT
#232
this was fun !
"I like turtles"
Csirac
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia55 Posts
September 23 2010 06:52 GMT
#233
Thanks for this. Made my day at work go by that much faster
RainWhisper
Profile Joined May 2009
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
September 23 2010 07:09 GMT
#234
Only reason im not happy with this is cause it ends too soon. Really loved it, all of it.
Hi can i get one McGracken please?
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
September 23 2010 07:27 GMT
#235
And here is the Warcraft Counterpart:
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/41482-The_Warcraft_Retrospective_Part_I_The_Drums_of_War
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/43922-The_Warcraft_Retrospective_Part_II_A_Call_to_Arms

For anyone who's interested.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
chocoed
Profile Joined June 2007
United States398 Posts
September 23 2010 07:30 GMT
#236
Excellent read. I look forward to the next book.
My life for Aiur!
necroticah
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa233 Posts
September 23 2010 07:32 GMT
#237
This is fantastic. It was really well done. I now know a little bit of SC history... You have done remarkable work. Please finish and publish it! I will definitely buy it!
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 07:36:09
September 23 2010 07:33 GMT
#238
I admit I didn't read all of that. But I'm glad I'm not the only 1 who remembers the very early days of SC. Zileas' flying reavers... a player single-handedly caused blizzard to nerf something lol. He also got the academy down to 150 minerals if anyone even remembers his post on that.

Edit: K I feel stupid now. Apparently that's what those videos were for haha.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
September 23 2010 08:18 GMT
#239
On September 23 2010 16:27 LittleeD wrote:
And here is the Warcraft Counterpart:
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/41482-The_Warcraft_Retrospective_Part_I_The_Drums_of_War
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/43922-The_Warcraft_Retrospective_Part_II_A_Call_to_Arms

For anyone who's interested.


Gametrailers retrospect series was always my favorite series, so much effort and great info.
still disapointed that they didnt do one for Starcraft :/ but now Choco did it for them <3

btw: The Book of Starcraft was amazing!!!!!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
September 23 2010 08:45 GMT
#240
I am in awe, I am going to have to spend the next week or so going through this. I mean, I can't believe just how much effort you put into this. Good job mate!
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
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