July officially announces his move to Starcraft 2 - Page 11
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Deletrious
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:11 zerglingsfolife wrote: JULY FIGHTING!!! What a beast! Zerg swarm incoming Yeahhh more tushin airplay he will be the 1st to win a double golden mouse mark my words..!!! | ||
Rodiel
France573 Posts
![]() gl hf July | ||
Punkstar
Slovakia522 Posts
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
Awesome news. Maybe sc2 will have an influence in Korea after all. | ||
skAnarky
Canada140 Posts
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CidO
United States695 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 10 2010 21:36 raga4ka wrote: July is a baller ! People who are not familiar with him should check out his EVER OSL 2008 final . In fact i'm going to post the games here and rewatch them ![]() <videos removed for space> I'm looking forward to July dronedrilling some protoss in SC 2 if thats even possible ![]() Good references, but I'm not sure 2 rushes and kicking around dosairs is exactly the best way to show off someone's talent ![]() Anyways, July was certainly never mechanically lacking. I don't know how well he'll do, but no doubt some sort of impressive control tricks are on the way. | ||
RHoudini
Belgium3626 Posts
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sensenmann
United States172 Posts
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ShadowReaver
Canada563 Posts
Hope to see him in tournaments soon. | ||
bconSaberRider
Germany47 Posts
I hope I can see more of those SC:BW pros in SC2. I am excited! Will they be able to climb to the top again? btw: <Storkfanboy>I wish Stork will join the SC2 bunch, too.</Storkfanboy> | ||
blacktoss
United States121 Posts
On September 10 2010 21:35 foxmeep wrote: Honestly, I think it's a combination of the two. There have been plenty of foreigners that have gone to Korea to train, and none of them have ever been mechanically strong compared to Koreans. Is it so hard to imagine that being Korean could actually have a genetic advantage? Obviously it's ridiculous to say Koreans are genetically better at Starcraft, but perhaps more that Asians are, in general, more agile/nimble and have faster reflexes than foreigners. Look at the sports Asians excel at at the Olympics for instance... it is a thought. What percentage of BW players are pro-level? A very small number right? There is a statistical phenomenon going on here. You can count the number of foreigners who have gone to play in Korea on your fingers and toes. The number of koreans who aspire to become pros and actually work towards that goal is absolutely much higher, and proportionate to the population of Korean gamers much higher. There is an element of talent in all games, it is small and minute. The talent that separates Jaedong and Flash from the rest is so small you cannot measure it except by looking at their BW performance, you could not possibly observe in other activities. But that small talent differential is what makes them the top, dominant players. BW is 99% practice and 1% talent. But at the pro levels, that 1% talent is what separates the top from the rest. There are probably many, many more Jaedong's and Flash's in Europe or in China, or North America than there are in Korea. But you will never find them because so few foreigners go to Korea and fulfill their 99% potential through practice. If pro BW were as big in North America and involved the same rigor of training, there would be so many more Jaedong's and Flash's because there would be so many more progamers testing their mettle and so many aspiring talents who have an oppurtunity to rise to the top. There is a reason why America and China dominate the olympics. They both have a *LOT* of people, and hence more potential talent to tap. And they try to get to that talent into the olympics instead of it going unrealized. An example of a nation doing remarkably well beyond its population is Russia, which comparatively has a smaller population and so less potential talent. But Soviet era training regimens would terrify you. The reason why Russian and ex-Soviet chess grandmasters dominate the top levels of chess is because Russian training makes Korean progamer training look like kindergarten, for example. Of course, that era has gone by and you can notice that Russian dominance in many fields is receding. tl;dr; there is a lot of untapped talent in other countries that will never be realized because they don't have the same progaming culture that Korean BW has. The foreigners that have gone to Korea have not been the most talented possible (although still very good, look at Idra for example). | ||
foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
I'm gonna love watching the God of War tear things up again! | ||
figq
12519 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:24 sluggaslamoo wrote: 818 APM. 818 APM. I wonder how much that is in SC2, but still. 818...This is July you are talking about here... the god damn mutha-fing 818 APM July. That's like... he makes 400 zerglings (2x 200) and makes two individual moves with each one in under a minute. | ||
Trozz
Canada3453 Posts
You're my number one Tushin! Show those chumps who's boss. | ||
Ursadon-n-Pals
United States928 Posts
This is going to be great. I wonder if this will encourage the other 2 to step out and officially announce their move to SC2. | ||
Fangzhou
United States199 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 11 2010 00:45 figq wrote: 818 APM. 818 APM. I wonder how much that is in SC2, but still. 818... That's like... he makes 400 zerglings (2x 200) and makes two individual moves with each one in under a minute. Or he just spam-selects them a ton. I recall the first game of Incruit OSL RO16 (July vs Flash). July peaked at well over 800 APM, and his game involved flying mutas into a wall of turrets and losing everything. July's sure got the mechanics, but he's not effectively that much faster than anyone else. | ||
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