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Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
September 01 2010 03:52 GMT
#161
Thank you for opening my eyes OP
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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 03:58:34
September 01 2010 03:58 GMT
#162
Eh? I'm a P but I actually think Z has the only decent soundtrack. Terran/Protoss are quite bad. I would actually listen to Z's soundtrack even when not playing SC2
DTown
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 03:59:45
September 01 2010 03:59 GMT
#163
First of all, LOL, awesome thread.

Second, imo it seems to me Blizzard nailed the music in terms of how each race should "feel" given their racial characteristics. Terran is redneck rockin' guitar solos, Zerg is creepy and ominous, and Protoss is heady and confident. However, it just so happens the theme that fits the shoot'em up, fast-paced, adrenaline-filled APM fest that is SC is, by far, Terran's rockin' tunes. Unfortunate.

Blizzard should care less bout racial identity for music (so all races get music that actually gets their blood pumping) and more about racial identity for gameplay (Swarm? What swarm? I see only a modest gathering.)
zephyredx
Profile Joined August 2010
United States40 Posts
September 01 2010 03:59 GMT
#164
On September 01 2010 07:11 rethos wrote:
I think the problem is that there is no real counter to terran music. I think blizzard should give infestors an ability to shut down the opponent music for 1 minute or so.
And before you jump on me saying that it would be incredibly OP, it could be an upgrade (200/200/120?) or smth.


A very good idea, but infestors come too late to counter Terran's early game threats of reaper/hellion harass.

In order to make it more effective, we must give the ability to the Queen for 75/75 and 50 energy, researched at hatchery. However, there is a flaw in this spell: a Terran who happens to be a skilled musician will be able to mentally play the Terran theme IN HIS HEAD! That would be a waste of 75/75 for Zerg. Hence, not only should the spell stop the Terran music, it should REPLACE it with the Zerg music. Now ZvT will finally be balanced because Terran will have to listen to the SAME MUSIC as Zerg .

Now do you think this is balanced enough, or should the spell also replace the Terran voice with the Zerg grandma voice? Trying not to make Zerg too OP here with this spell.

Possible issue: this spell may affect ZvP too much. This brings up an urgent question: is the Zerg music/voice significantly worse than the Protoss music/voice?

Btw this is a very hilarious thread.
What do you call a tennis player who tosses the ball inhumanly well? A protoss!
Yotta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 04:54:33
September 01 2010 04:54 GMT
#165
The fact that Terran music is OP in both BW and SC2 is undeniable. The most obvious question raised by this fact is, "If Terran's music is really the reason they're OP, why is balance not a problem in BW to the degree it currently is in SC2?"

A simple answer might be that the music in SC2 is just that much more OP than its BW counterpart, but listen again. When switching between the two songs you will inevitably notice that one is significantly better than the other. It may seem like common sense to assume that the better of the two is SC2's Terran theme, but if you look very carefully at the song titles you will notice that, in fact, BW's Terran theme is superior to SC2's by a considerable margin.

Well, this simply doesn't seem to make sense! Does this disprove our beautifully elegant theory that Terran's music is the main factor in it being OP? Not necessarily.

If you ask around the forums, "Which is the most mechanically demanding race in BW?" most will answer, "Terran." Ask those same people if Terran is mechanically demanding in SC2 and they're likely to laugh at you.

It would seem that, in BW, Terran's music was necessarily superior so that players could meet the APM and attention requirements of their demanding race. In SC2, with the drastically reduced mechanical requirements, the psychological advantage traditionally given to Terran players is unnecessary and detrimental to racial balance.

Thus, to balance SC2, either the mechanical requirements of Terran must be increased, or the psychological benefit of their music must be reduced. If the only goal is technical balance, Blizzard could instead decrease the mechanical requirements of both Zerg and Protoss, or increase the power of each race's music; however, these methods have significant drawbacks which make the original suggestions preferable. First, they are more complex, requiring a change to two races instead of one, and the effects of complex solutions are less predictable than those of simpler alternatives. Additionally, these methods favor a decrease in the skill required to play SC2. Part of what makes BW so competitively viable is its high skill ceiling, allowing ample room for players to improve and continually elevate the level at which the game is played. With a lower skill ceiling SC2 is more likely to stagnate and lose popularity as an e-sport.

Right now, SC2 is a good e-sport. The massive battles and stunning visual effects are enough to keep today's fans watching. However, as the game matures, fans will come to demand more from professional gamers. As the average skill of players increases, pros will need to find new means of improvement to stay ahead of the curve and continue to impress viewers. As seen in the current Terran balance issues, if the skill ceiling is too low the game becomes less playable and less watchable. If Blizzard learns from this mistake and corrects the music-to-difficulty ratio SC2 has a chance of being a worthy successor to the most successful e-sport ever.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
September 01 2010 04:56 GMT
#166
I turned off the in-game music in favor of my own playlist. I miss the theme now every time I hear it in a VOD :/
Jintetsu
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden152 Posts
September 01 2010 05:04 GMT
#167
dude, are you serious? the protoss music is 10times better, protoss even have a part of their music from BW, makes it so fucking good!!! i wish i had protoss music when i played terran.... or BW music x.x
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DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
September 01 2010 05:07 GMT
#168
On September 01 2010 09:10 FlashDaCard wrote:
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 01 2010 05:13 GMT
#169
Terran music is best music!
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Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
September 01 2010 05:16 GMT
#170
IdrA listens to radio free zerg O.o

maybe?

not?
Gentlebite
Profile Joined May 2010
United States132 Posts
September 01 2010 05:16 GMT
#171
WTF is everybody talking about, I say you guys get decent headphones or a better sound system, especially the best headphones you can find and listen to this

I listen to it with Turtle Beach Headphones and it was like a fucking mystical journey through ears, better than weed itself
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
September 01 2010 05:21 GMT
#172

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty — Patch 1.0.4

Bug Fixes

• Fixed an issue where the terran music was ridiculously badass. Terran players will now hear Yakety Sax on repeat in game, as was originally intended.



Sully907
Profile Joined August 2010
United States97 Posts
September 01 2010 05:27 GMT
#173
I approve of this thread
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
September 01 2010 05:28 GMT
#174
lmao so true :D Terran music is the only in-game music i regularly listen to when playing.
xiyuema
Profile Joined August 2009
87 Posts
September 01 2010 05:28 GMT
#175
just wait till the new expansions... then the music might get better for the other races :D
Far out GG
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
September 01 2010 05:32 GMT
#176
Terran music has always been the best, but if you want crazy apm, check out KAWAIIRICE's playlist... seriously you will have insane APM in no time.
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
September 01 2010 05:35 GMT
#177
Pandora is the way to go man. I hate the SCII Protoss music so much. It's the most annoying thing ever. Even in SCI I didn't listen to in-game music, but when watching VODs it was nice to hear non-bad Protoss music.
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silencesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States464 Posts
September 01 2010 05:51 GMT
#178
Frickin terran are so imba, they get rock solos and I get some chorus humming loudly. I say we nerf Terran by having their theme redone by ABBA.
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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
September 01 2010 05:53 GMT
#179
On September 01 2010 14:21 GulpyBlinkeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty — Patch 1.0.4

Bug Fixes

• Fixed an issue where the terran music was ridiculously badass. Terran players will now hear Yakety Sax on repeat in game, as was originally intended.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ




Win. So Much Win. Oh my god, almost crying laughing.
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Kikuichimonji
Profile Joined June 2010
United States102 Posts
September 01 2010 05:55 GMT
#180
Protoss music has all these sudden tempo/volume changes that make you think something exciting is going to happen. Of course you're usually disappointed.
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