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InfiniteIce
United States794 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:46 reza wrote: less HD and Husky Agree with this. Also, have several accounts for your casters/players available ahead of time in case something happens, like HD's account being locked out from bnet (MH?!?! Jokes..) and not being able to get back on for several minutes. Preparedness in general... | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
Day9 He is the king of goofiness and nerdiness in casual and innocent way. He has a style and a vibe, and a vision, and he is never boring even when he is sharing his mundane thoughts that are passing through his head. He's really kind of a monolith in the StarCraft II world. Husky I remember watching your StarCraft I commentaries when you were starting up, and they were really fun. You fail miserably in duo though. No connection with the co-caster, fake hyping all the time and repeating things bazillion times, things like "I can't wait" blagh blagh... Besides your few sentence gems, your overall performance was far from good. JP This guy i noticed on the Day9 countdown party, and i can not see anything why i would like to watch this guy. I mean hes not obnoxious to watch, but he is 0 on the 0-10 entertaining scale. All he does it seems is get by Day9 with just being nerd interested in StarCraft 2. No style, no perceivable passion, no substance in the sentences. Seriously man, what are you doing in the casting world? HD Eewwwwww... How do i say this without you guys thinking it's misplaced angst... Oh well i'll try... You man, are seriously obnoxious to listen to. I think the reason for that i can distribute to your sleaky voice (which might be subjective thing by far), but your sentence construction is in pair with that voice. Now, i know that you might not be able to change voices or something, but i seriously will avoid your commentaries in the future. The players in the tournament were great. Was rooting for the Protoss trio, Kiwikaki, HuK and my main favorite Socke. Darn dude, you put up a hell of a fight, i will closely watch your next appearances. Cheers | ||
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stylepoints
Trinidad/Tobago22 Posts
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Audigy
United States200 Posts
On August 31 2010 13:39 stylepoints wrote: Start by getting rid of husky. Second point is there was WAY too much downtime between matches at times. Overall though good tourney and fun to watch. this, husky is miserably annoying. and we need less commercials and more games, so many games are played while we watch the same 5 commercials 50 times in a loop.... | ||
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stylepoints
Trinidad/Tobago22 Posts
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kilian
United States27 Posts
Par for the course of video game tournaments. Sadly the casters and employees are just attempting to suck the proverbial dick of the organizers and sponsors, and our enjoyment of the cast or production plays second fiddle. BTW I can't stand Husky or HD. They got lucky and are now getting exposed for how worthless they are. I'm glad. | ||
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
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Spell_Crafted
United States192 Posts
- Player Interviews. There was a few the first day towards the beginning, but they seemed to die off later on and would have been a good way to fill time. I've seen most of these players in games many times, and it's always cool to me to be able to put a voice and face along with the players name and play style. - Brackets - I kept a tab open on gotfrag to try and keep up with how the other matches and such were going, but they never seemed to be accurate, and random matches seemed to pop up every round that defied what the brackets seemed to show would happen next. Along with this, and explanation of how players lost matches that weren't cast would be good. (Maybe some type of a review of highlights at some point near the end of a casting day or something?) Down Time - A little more production value to help fill the time between games. I'm sure that you could get fed a little more information like on other matches that have been going on and their outcomes to keep people updated. Yes, there was the little chat window that gave little blurbs, but honestly 2 sentences really isn't enough information on why a player I'm cheering for is now out of the tournament. If there was a brilliant play or something, again, just show it to us! You have the replays. Player Information - I realize this is the fist time the game has been played in MLG and honestly the game just came out so it's tough to know a lot of the faces yet, but there seemed to be a bit too much of the "I don't really know this player" thing going on. I don't blame the casters at all, they seemed to all be going off their personal knowledge and weren't really being given any information. The casters had computers in front of them, why wasn't there a little writeup of the players? It was known ahead of time who the players were from either the signups or invites. Again, despite any criticism I have here, I really enjoyed the tournament and the casts. I think double elimination is kind of a nice change from what I've seen in every other tournament. It gave me a little hope that my favorite players might run all the way through the lower bracket and make a comeback to the finals. Casters were great and the switches were refreshing after watching a tournament and hearing the same caster for hours at a time. | ||
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Agh
United States1014 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:50 InfiniteIce wrote: Agree with this. Also, have several accounts for your casters/players available ahead of time in case something happens, like HD's account being locked out from bnet (MH?!?! Jokes..) and not being able to get back on for several minutes. Preparedness in general... That has nothing to do with preparedness, when warm-ups started all of our accounts got auto locked due to blizzards 'security' system (locks accounts when several logins occur at one ip address) | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
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nemahsys
Canada457 Posts
On August 29 2010 22:05 DarkspearTribe wrote: I wanted more of: * Players * Crowd * Interviews Also map preview thing... Maybe do it before tournament rather than at finals? Other than that - I was pleased with tournament and I'm in Europe I wanted less of: *HD and Husky Other than that I was pleased with the tournament. | ||
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shinwa
Sweden225 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I certainly hope so because I WANT my games  Had an awesome series with Machine/Lz and my games vs Silver/Masq are worth a gander too. | ||
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Bane1998
United States21 Posts
I’ve seen a ton of threads all over TL.net and I just wanted to have one cohesive, final thread so that myself and other MLG staff could skim through it and find all the criticism, suggestions, and comments in one place. One thing I want to ask of you is to remain from outright complaining. We want to bring you guys the best possible tournament and coverage of the tournament and the only way we can do that is with constructive criticism from the community. If you were at the event, tell us how to improve the live spectator experience. If you watched at home all weekend, tell us what you would like to see on the stream. If you were a player, tell us what we can do to improve your experience over the weekend. If you attended the event as press, tell us how we can make things easier on you. We’ll try our best to listen and improve the entire experience as much as possible before the next event. 1. Do not make me install junk on my computer to watch the coverage, I won't do it. Your sponsers won't get my eyeballs. 2. Get non-live videos out faster. I watched recorded video on YouTube with all your sponser stuff cut out because you were too slow. Yet again, your sponsers won't get my eyeballs. If you were faster with videos, I would have seen your sponser ads in them. 3. Your website is impossible to navigate. How many people care about all the different games? I want a Starcraft 2 experience. It's fine to tease you do other things and if I'm interested I'll click deeper, but finding 'just starcraft' on your website was impossible. Nor could I (still to this day) find just straight up videos and/or replays. Your site doesn't seem designed to the people who actually want to be an eSports fan, but rather it's designed seemingly to someone who is trying to advertise MLG. MLG will be cool if it does cool things. 4. Understand your audience. We're gamers, we're young, and we're prolly cheap. We're not going to generally pay for a HD stream, instead someone will rip it for us. Don't give us a reason to rip it... be the source.5. I don't think I actually was able to find the rankings, ladder, match results, who's there, or anything on your website. Again, just a horrible horrible website. What I really want is to go to http://starcraft2.mlgpro.com and click on 'Raleigh 2010' in a very obvious link, and then from there have access to live stream, all the info on who's there and current standings, and links to replays and videos for each and every game already played, or any games currently being played. I don't understand what's hard about that. 6. Casters shouldn't be setting up the games. There was some issue apparently where the casters were actually trying to get the players in the game. Let the casters cast, have referees handling the tech details out of view and setting up the game. Casters shoudl just see that it's starting and then be given a keyboard/mouse/monitor.  7. More camera on the players. There was a match where HuK was in a small video in the action card of the cast, that was pretty cool. It's interesting to watch the actual players behind the screen, though I know they tend to be somewhat uninteresting and just focusing. 8. Day[9] is a great caster, the others... meh. It's good to be excited watching certain plays, but there was like some serious 'nerd shrieking' going on, there could be less of that. 9. Pre-game and post-game interviews with the players. How do you feel going into this? How do you feel coming out of it? Why do you think you won/lost? WHat was the most descisive moment in your mind? yadda yadda. 10. 'Fun' things before/after coverage. There was a TLOwnage video somewhere that was very fun and funny to watch of TLO just pwning noobs with unorthodox builds and being humorously casted. Or even educational things, pathfinding/micro tricks, overlays on maps showing common routes, etc. 11. If eSports is gunna break out it needs to feel slightly less 'nerdy.' The nerd shrieking stopping would be a good first step. A little more female (the female voice explaining the map before a match was kind of good). A little more preparedness, and the casters not doing the game set up. Add a little 'professionalism' to it (not saying don't have fun). (Not to be a hard knock, but I don't care if all those points have 'but you can get that by doing ____ on our site' because even if I could, I couldn't find it, and the amount of time I'll spend looking is simply limited before I'll just go to YouTube and watch rips.) | ||
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
On August 31 2010 17:09 {88}iNcontroL wrote: MLG repeatedly told me that they will be uploading all the reps as vods and possibly even making the reps available. I certainly hope so because I WANT my games Had an awesome series with Machine/Lz and my games vs Silver/Masq are worth a gander too. Perhaps TeamLiquid can use a little of its leverage as the world's best Starcraft fansite to make sure it happens, hm? | ||
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
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Novac
Denmark23 Posts
Main thing about the casting is simply that you should try and make it less repetitive. As someone mentioned you could get some info on the players as well as their recent games and talk about that instead of talking so much about the early game. There's a limit to how many times we need an explanation of the shields on the protoss probe harrass. But all in all you did a great job. As for the event in general. When it says HD I expect HD. To me this is at least 720p. I think I logged in 20 times just to make sure that I was actually watching the HD stream I had payed for. Also the way you logged into the HD stream was incredibly confusing. I don't know what it is with e-Sport sites and crappy layout and design but I cannot for the life of me figure out why the site doesn't have a dedicated streaming page made to maximize the overview of the event and separate it completely from the rest of the other events of the MLG page. The GOMtv.net page is awful in this regard as well. Also, keep the paying customers i.e. the HD stream on a different server from the regular stream to prevent crashes. When I pay for a service I should get it or receive a refund. Fortunately I got into the stream after about an hour and a half into the event but it still shouldn't happen. Take a page from the Korean book of SC:BW and get the contestants you are streaming on a stage and in some boxes. Lastly I would have liked to see more transitions, brackets and general tournament overview to give if more of a "TV feel". I'm hoping to one day get the kind of quality that I can invite some friends over to watch on the big screen with a few beers. So definitely room for improvement but you did a great job under the circumstances. | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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