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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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alkampfer
116 Posts
-------- That being said, MMM is the most ulgiest play ever. In sc1, because of the horrible pathing system + limit on group control controling your marines was so important. In sc2 it just seem like move stim attack and repeat. It's frustrating to watch. THAT being said, the problem isn't just MMM. Urgg, it just seem to be one ball of units v other ball of units. SC2 is not as good as SC1 when it comes to watching it as 'esport'. It will never be even with time, unless something changes. --------- I | ||
ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
On August 29 2010 12:47 Fantistic wrote: Mass ravens? That'll never happen since it's a support unit. just like the science vessel in SC1... yet people in TvZ still got as many vessels as they could!! | ||
ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 29 2010 09:20 travis wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2010 08:44 Xunaka wrote: The tournament finals were like watching the RO16 in the HDH it was just pretty bad play, watching 2 1base protoss try to 4gate each other isn't all that exciting or fun to watch. I believe Idra said it best about the NA players when he highlighted HuK in particular that he is just a FOTM all in player and that highlights most of the play we saw in MLG. lol, those finals had sooo much skill it's amazing how clueless you are esp considering that kiwikaki has quite a winning rec vs idra lolz | ||
theKOT
United States167 Posts
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hoopaholik91
United States30 Posts
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On August 29 2010 04:47 Zozo wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2010 04:42 Eiserne wrote: On August 29 2010 04:41 Kennigit wrote: On August 29 2010 04:40 cr4ckshot wrote: If you want to see innovative play, big money tournaments aren't the source. You may get a glimpse of creative plays, but that's pretty much it. What sort of evidence do you have for a statement like this? It's logical reasoning. Big money encourages plays that win. Innovative is unreliable. Shit, broodwar never had room for creativity right? ... I wasn't around for the old days of brood war but from what I understand it was less hardcore as it is now (example: I think people were allowed to talk in game?) and had alot more innovation. I think saying big money/hardcore/serious tournaments are not the best place for innovation is probably an accurate statement unless the person practiced the innovation for a long time and is planning to surprise people with a build they wont know how to counter. In any case, on topic, I hate to say it but the games are only interesting when Terran loses. Everyone knows now that Terran is basically the huge overdog in every matchup and in general people cheer for the underdog unless the overdog is some famous player that everyone likes. | ||
gospelwut
United States52 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 29 2010 13:05 Disastorm wrote: Show nested quote + On August 29 2010 04:47 Zozo wrote: On August 29 2010 04:42 Eiserne wrote: On August 29 2010 04:41 Kennigit wrote: On August 29 2010 04:40 cr4ckshot wrote: If you want to see innovative play, big money tournaments aren't the source. You may get a glimpse of creative plays, but that's pretty much it. What sort of evidence do you have for a statement like this? It's logical reasoning. Big money encourages plays that win. Innovative is unreliable. Shit, broodwar never had room for creativity right? ... I wasn't around for the old days of brood war but from what I understand it was less hardcore as it is now (example: I think people were allowed to talk in game?) and had alot more innovation. I think saying big money/hardcore/serious tournaments are not the best place for innovation is probably an accurate statement unless the person practiced the innovation for a long time and is planning to surprise people with a build they wont know how to counter. Uh... that's exactly what happens in BW and it continues to be the most hardcore environment it is. We've seen plenty of risky/creative strategies debuted in Starleague finals. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On August 29 2010 13:41 Plexa wrote: If you found the final boring, it's because you don't understand PvP. I don't blame you, it's a complicated matchup despite it's simple appearance. As someone who was attending the event, the only boring part was 3 hours of PvP, the games themselves were great. | ||
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On August 29 2010 12:52 Fayth wrote: yeah terran MMM so easy so powerful bla bla bla top 3 protoss protoss protoss Maybe even more fun if you had showed up! D: They called your name but you were nowhere to be seen ![]() | ||
EnderCN
United States499 Posts
On August 29 2010 12:52 Fayth wrote: yeah terran MMM so easy so powerful bla bla bla top 3 protoss protoss protoss What makes this even funnier is that Terran almost has to go MMM vs Protoss, that or banshee+marine. They just have so few options against Protoss since Mech is so mediocre vs them and they have to go AA in case of VR. So they were forced down one upgrade path and still lost while doing it. I still think TvP favors T overall to be honest but complaints about T being grossly OP are so darn exaggerated. There is an imbalance but it is small and can be corrected with small changes. | ||
Grond
599 Posts
On August 29 2010 10:28 ooni wrote: I love how ppl think medivacs are not high tier units, just hillarious. Barracks + Factory + Starport Gateway + Cybernetics + Twilight Council + Templar Archives + Psionic Storm Pretty substantial difference. | ||
sensenmann
United States172 Posts
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archon256
United States363 Posts
On August 29 2010 12:52 Fayth wrote: yeah terran MMM so easy so powerful bla bla bla top 3 protoss protoss protoss The problem isn't that MMM is too powerful, it's that it's boring as hell to watch. If the other Terran units would be used more instead of MMM spam, that'd be great. Oh wait, tank nerf. At least watching Banelings slaughter Marines is fun. | ||
Vokasak
United States388 Posts
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
I understand that the casters need water breaks etc but i know they're capable of fairly constant casting they didn't show like 75% of the sets I was most curious about T_T!!!!!!!! awful tournament set up IMO I get more of my starcraft fill from community run tournaments than I got from this day9 and the other casters were being cock teases, telling us how fucking awesome a set was or how incredible a game was and all these storylines, none of which I could see for myself | ||
Zegu
Canada52 Posts
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Rokit5
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