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G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 28 2010 23:44 GMT
#201
I think the reason as to why we see so similar playstyle is because the majority of players are from the US. If we look at the IEM, we had players from all 3 servers, so there were more divergence in playstyle. I also think its because the players at IEM were better overall.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
Xunaka
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
August 28 2010 23:44 GMT
#202
The tournament finals were like watching the RO16 in the HDH it was just pretty bad play, watching 2 1base protoss try to 4gate each other isn't all that exciting or fun to watch. I believe Idra said it best about the NA players when he highlighted HuK in particular that he is just a FOTM all in player and that highlights most of the play we saw in MLG.
chekthehek
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
August 28 2010 23:45 GMT
#203
all i can say is

yes, this tournament was really bad and boring
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 28 2010 23:47 GMT
#204
I am _really_ hoping for a shift in terran playstyle cause the bio play in like...all matchups is getting tiresome and i as terran really dont enjoy it at all
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kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 28 2010 23:49 GMT
#205
On August 29 2010 08:47 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
I am _really_ hoping for a shift in terran playstyle cause the bio play in like...all matchups is getting tiresome and i as terran really dont enjoy it at all


After Tanknerf?

I say get used to it....
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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
August 28 2010 23:51 GMT
#206
The tournament finals were like watching the RO16 in the HDH it was just pretty bad play, watching 2 1base protoss try to 4gate each other isn't all that exciting or fun to watch. I believe Idra said it best about the NA players when he highlighted HuK in particular that he is just a FOTM all in player and that highlights most of the play we saw in MLG


I disagree about HuK. He was actually one of the few players this tournament to display any creativity at all.

There were definitely a few good matches, but overall I'd agree that there were too many boring, uncreative, and/or badly played matches as well. But the thing is, this is so young in the game's life, and many of the established top players were off in Korea. Over time, more good NA players will emerge and I think the level of play can only go up from here.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
August 28 2010 23:52 GMT
#207
it can't be boring when you get stuff like this happening.

[image loading]
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Anty
Profile Joined August 2010
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 23:55:07
August 28 2010 23:54 GMT
#208
I thought it was very exciting, although I'm a protoss player who struggles with PvP, so I'm biased.

On a side note, I thought most of the commentary added to the matches, rather than detracting from the excitement, something difficult to do.

Edit*: To the poster right above me... Thank you.
Geovoid L
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 28 2010 23:57 GMT
#209
Personally I found it very entertaining.

A: The game is a month old
B: It was the first time MLG held an SC2 tourney

You should probably stop trying to spread so much negativity because the fact is the game WILL evolve and MLG is a great avenue to further expose a brilliant game. We have to support this game so the community will grow, and then the tournaments gain momentum bringing in more competition and diverse gameplay. I kinda think blizzard MIGHT just know what they are doing by the way. Give it some time. Okay so a few of you may think it was boring, well I don't like Arena American football as opposed to how American football is traditionally played, but I don't go on forums pushing the issue and blasting how it virtually eliminates the running game.

Please support SC2. And if you want Zerg to be in the finals...get your ass in the game and raise your level of play.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9443 Posts
August 29 2010 00:00 GMT
#210
On August 29 2010 08:52 kilgr20 wrote:
it can't be boring when you get stuff like this happening.

[image loading]


LMAO...

Anyway, one of the reasons i dont like the upcomming patch is that, while siege tanks and reapers might be too strongs vs zerg, they are balanced or really underpowered vs protos and terran. By making an all round nerf blizzard is just making these units useless. IMO they should just have nerfed the splash dmg and buffed the dmg from 50 to 55 or so, so that the overall result was that it would be weaker vs zerg (small units) and marines, while still decent vs protos and mauruders. And they still have not fixed the fact that it is very difficult for zerg to respond to all the different openings of terran. They could fix this by changing the map pool, as steppes of war/LT and kulas are to terran favored. Units like the thor is now useless as they dont hard counter mutas. Why not buff 250 mm cannon instead of nerfing the ultra?

IMO the above suggestion would be better as they would allow for useless units to be usefull. But blizzards logic is: Unit A is to powerful in 1 specific situation. Lets make a general nerf. IMO by having that approach blizzard is not gonna be succesful in making a good esport game.

Anothing though, I kind of believe that bio is just as entertaining to spectate as mech. In the future though i hope we will see more use of nukes/drops, when people get better af defending 1base allins/2 base allins (though blizzard could do us all a favor and fix the mappol and make all maps more like meta cross positions).
Xunaka
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
August 29 2010 00:00 GMT
#211
Personally if every tournament had this guy

[image loading]

As the commentator it would be amazing, Though Day9 And JP were amazing.. Husky and HD seemed a bit nervous to be on camera.. Until American commentators are screaming at the top of their lungs it just wont be the same.
pat965
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada274 Posts
August 29 2010 00:06 GMT
#212
On August 29 2010 09:00 Xunaka wrote:
Until American commentators are screaming at the top of their lungs it just wont be the same.


It's really tough finding a commentator who both knows the game inside and out, and has an awesome yelling/casting voice. There isn't an SC2 commentator around who I think has the right voice for it, though I'd say Tasteless has one of the better voices
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gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
August 29 2010 00:08 GMT
#213
The game has been out a measly month. It will take time for top players to raise the skill ceiling, so be patient.

As for this tournament, it wasn't the best but there were still some very entertaining games.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
August 29 2010 00:10 GMT
#214
On August 29 2010 04:34 hadoken5 wrote:
To close I just want to say that I KNOW that this is NOT the case on the KR servers. So is it just that on the KR servers they learned to counter it? Or is it that they just don't do it good enough? What you guys think


you didnt see thestc completely wipe out tester with just marauders and dropships? even after he had 3 expos he still kept doing it cos its aggressive, effecient and fun to play.
analogkensho
Profile Joined June 2003
United States358 Posts
August 29 2010 00:16 GMT
#215
To be clear, I thought the commentary was all really good. I preferred having HD or Husky cast with Day[9], since that resulted in a good blend of enthusiasm and knowledge. But even the worst of the casting was more interesting than a lot of the games were to me. I definitely think they were just making the most of what they got. "Hey PvP, everyone's favorite mirror", for example.

I just found myself sort of zoning out and not paying attention to the games, and even those that were sort of fun at the time I can't recall at all.

My list of memorable moments (with just a hint of sarcasm):

Voidray counter-push killing some zerg who'd been dominating all game.
A number of games where someone was in control, then overextended a tiny bit, and suddenly got countered and GG'd out in roughly 15 seconds.
....
There was some game where a huge blog of colossi headbutted in the middle of the map, and everyone tried to figure out why one guy won.

Other than that it's this big mess of undifferentiated micro and early timing pushes. Just seems very featureless compared to many other E-sports broadcasts. Much better than WoW arena has been recently, however.

Other than that, there are no big exciting moments that stick with me. Now, that could very well be due to my minimal knowledge and skill in SC2, and have nothing to do with the game. But I could watch and enjoy BW with roughly the same amount of knowledge.

Before anyone says it - yes, it's very early in SC2's life. I don't expect it to be as good as BW yet. I'm sure it will get better. Just expressing my disappointment, not making any objective judgments.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 29 2010 00:20 GMT
#216
On August 29 2010 08:44 Xunaka wrote:
The tournament finals were like watching the RO16 in the HDH it was just pretty bad play, watching 2 1base protoss try to 4gate each other isn't all that exciting or fun to watch. I believe Idra said it best about the NA players when he highlighted HuK in particular that he is just a FOTM all in player and that highlights most of the play we saw in MLG.


lol, those finals had sooo much skill
it's amazing how clueless you are
Jaug
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden249 Posts
August 29 2010 00:21 GMT
#217
analogkensho you just choose the wrong event to start watching. IEM was much better, just about every mu was exciting and innovative with a lot of macro games. This time, there were few elite players and short games imo.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
August 29 2010 00:23 GMT
#218
On August 29 2010 08:52 kilgr20 wrote:
it can't be boring when you get stuff like this happening.

[image loading]


Rofl

I came here thinking about posting something about the sc2 tournament while bashing console "gamers" at mlg but then i saw this and now i can't stop laughing

Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
August 29 2010 00:23 GMT
#219
Drewbie Vs Socke was one of the best TvP I've seen in SC2. Brilliant game. + Show Spoiler +
When that mothership popped out you could hear the air being sucked out of the room. Some of those storms were insane.

If you haven't seen this, find a VoD or replay.. wow.
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 29 2010 00:26 GMT
#220
On August 29 2010 08:44 Xunaka wrote:
The tournament finals were like watching the RO16 in the HDH it was just pretty bad play, watching 2 1base protoss try to 4gate each other isn't all that exciting or fun to watch. I believe Idra said it best about the NA players when he highlighted HuK in particular that he is just a FOTM all in player and that highlights most of the play we saw in MLG.


Did you miss all the micro the players were doing? Or how HuK went phoenixes and did some insane ff's to stop stalkers from leaving then lift them up? Games were great. Just because you didn't understand them doesn't make them bad.
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