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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 28 2010 16:23 GMT
#101
A guy pre-emptively gg'd me when he was dropping in my main. Everything he dropped died within the next 10 seconds.
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Silkk
Profile Joined June 2010
United States41 Posts
August 28 2010 16:44 GMT
#102
I do it all the time. I think it's bad manner to stay in a game you can't win. Wastes everyones time.
Dinn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 16:58:04
August 28 2010 16:57 GMT
#103
It aint over till it's over. Like what happend to bonifaceviii right above. What if you're wrong? Then you just look like a dick. If it really is hopeless for your opponent humor him. That's always pretty fun imo.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
August 28 2010 16:58 GMT
#104
I only do it when they have no chance and are just wasting my time. That and when they are BM
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 16:58:59
August 28 2010 16:58 GMT
#105
I only 'offensively' GG if the person is a complete asshat. Especially if they're going all-in AND being an asshat.

On August 29 2010 01:44 Silkk wrote:
I do it all the time. I think it's bad manner to stay in a game you can't win. Wastes everyones time.


How do you know it's over though? You pretty much don't unless you're maphacking or seriously have the entire map.
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
August 28 2010 17:06 GMT
#106
On August 29 2010 01:23 bonifaceviii wrote:
A guy pre-emptively gg'd me when he was dropping in my main. Everything he dropped died within the next 10 seconds.

ROFL
i dunno lol
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
August 28 2010 17:11 GMT
#107
I don't really care. If they call gg early and win, then sure, they kinda deserved it. But I love when they call gg because they think they're winning and then they lose. Doesn't happen very often, but it happens.
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
August 28 2010 17:11 GMT
#108
I think it's BM, but there are times it's acceptable.

Ever had a game when you're on 4 fully saturated bases and have an almost maxed army, compared to the opponent's one half-mining base and no army since you just wiped them out? I don't want to waste 5minutes of my life destroying all your buildings, if you don't GG when you've definetely lost then that's more BM than "offensive" GGing.

If I know I've won, and you're wasting my time being a BM idiot, then I'll BM back to you. Just GG and quit so I can play another game.
MaelstromIV
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada28 Posts
August 28 2010 17:12 GMT
#109
"gg" means good game, no more, no less to me and I find it funny that people try to apply their own little customs on how and when they say it. I personally don't find it mannered when people say their "high five good lucks" because in the end it doesn't really mean jack. I personally don't type anything does that make me a bad mannered player? I find it more insulting that someone who types their string of g's l's h's and f's thinks that they're good mannered despite the fact they can't take the time to type full words.
Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 28 2010 17:12 GMT
#110
I preemptively gg every time I scout a cheese. It really is demoralizing for my opponents. BM? Probably. But it helps me be confident in fighting it off.
Half man, half bear, half pig.
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 17:15:19
August 28 2010 17:14 GMT
#111
On August 29 2010 02:12 MaelstromIV wrote:
I personally don't find it mannered when people say their "high five good lucks".


Are you being serious?
febreze
Profile Joined April 2010
167 Posts
August 28 2010 17:26 GMT
#112
When SC1 just came out, saying GG at the end of a match was the norm. It was only in the last few years that it took on the new meaning of "I concede". Personally, I was in a situation where I felt that I could be eliminated at any moment so I said GG since it was a well played game, it would be a shame to miss the opportunity to say it. My opponent however took it as a sign of concession and literally stopped playing.

The thing about starcraft is that information is rarely absolute, and there is always a chance for a comeback. Back in the day, you always play to the end until your opponent is eliminated or has left the game. I've never expected someone to leave due to an in game chat message. In that match, I did end up leaving because I didn't want to spoil the mood. Its the matching of wits, not the victory message that draws to the game.

Anyways, philosophically, I disagree with many of the new social conventions that was come about in SC2. Calling proxy'ing and rushing as "cheese" and bad manner is just a means to restrict types of play through meta gaming.

At the moment I'm picking and choosing which moores that I agree with and adhere to, but in the end, old habits die hard. In my book, everything is fair as long as the game mechanics allows. Play the game accord to your own moral compass and don't let other dictate whats BM or not.
Beauty in truth, deception with dogma, meaning through life.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 28 2010 17:39 GMT
#113
I personally feel offensive GGs are probably the worst kind of BM. There is absolutely nothing as frustrating as playing a genuinely long and good game then having your opponent (who's winning/won) just basically say "hahaha noob, I win."

Losing's part of the game, but no one likes having it thrusted into their face. It only makes it worse if it was genuinely a good game.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 28 2010 17:52 GMT
#114
This is extremely bm. The only acceptable time to do this is if your opponent was being bm before hand.
Chronocide
Profile Joined August 2007
United States126 Posts
August 28 2010 17:54 GMT
#115
If it's clear that I've lost the game and my opp says GG before me, I will usually alt tab or get up from my chair and go do something else without quitting. If I'm playing 2s my terran ally will generally fly his buildings around. I find to be very BM.
"I quickly scanned the area, and saw no observers, so I locked-down as many scouts as I could with my Ghosts, and ordered one to nuke them" -mrxak
Darkn3ss
Profile Joined November 2009
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 17:58:10
August 28 2010 17:57 GMT
#116
Ha! I flame pretty hard if they GG for me... -.-

Then ask for a rematch. If I happen to lose the rematch I just ragequit!!!

No point of being nice to a dickhead who just thinks he's the shit.
Dont quote me boy, cuz I aint saying shhh...
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
August 28 2010 17:58 GMT
#117
I dont care too much about it, in fact i do understand some kids out there just have a bad "GG Timing", see Idra sometimes takes 2 to 3 weeks to GG in his games.^^
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
zoltanqc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada171 Posts
August 28 2010 18:16 GMT
#118
In games with no time limits its BM but I think its ok to say GG before your opponent a couple seconds before the timer ends
AND THEN, THE INTERNETS EXPLODED.
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 18:24:36
August 28 2010 18:16 GMT
#119
For me, I do not like it (learned the hard way aka getting yelled at for doing it innocently once during beta...didn't play bw that competitively aka playing a lot of iccup). Anyways, yeah it is considered bm for doing it, no doubt unless u spell it out (can go either way I guess, I give the benefit of the doubt).

As for XvX, where X>1, I'll "pre-emp" gg when one of the opponents leave because the game is pretty much over. My excuse is because the opponent raged quit. If his/her partner was a random, oh well, not my problem/tough luck. I will never pre-emp gg when the opponent leaves in the middle because there is still a reasonable chance for the partner to win, who knows.

As for a funny opponent pre-emp gg, it was a 2v2 map (that sandy map going North/South ,gold exps in mid, common area between partners in expo area) and the opponents that my friend and I were playing were these 2 turtling idiots. My friend was half-ass harassing with burying roaches, moving in and out one guy's base (yeah, that's how bad they were). Anyways, I basically expanded all over the map, gateways everywhere at each base and such. So I decided to attack this other terran's 1 and only expo outside his nat (located at right side of map...I took the entire left and he didn't even really scout it). So I'm caught off gaurd because I knew these guys were jokes, and after he destroys my split up army and 2/3 of my partner's army after suffering heavy losses, he ggs me lol. I thought he was joking or he was saying it because he knew we out macro'ed the crap out of his team and I was asking him....but nope, he really meant it. He makes it up to our nat....and meets a my partner and I's fully replenished army....yeah he and his partner the got steamrolled easily.

Lesson: don't say stupid pre-emp ggs only after 1 fight that was right outside your nat after turtling for 20 min...(I don't have the replay sadly...)
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Demarini
Profile Joined May 2010
United States151 Posts
August 28 2010 18:34 GMT
#120
i say gg when the terran lifts his buildings up and makes me go voidrays.
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