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PKCarwash
United States37 Posts
If they think tanks BC's and reapers are too powerful, then they should have buffed P and Z up to T's standards, not nerf everything IMO anyways now my wallin in PvZ is going to take 10 more seconds to be zergling tight... =\... yay but at least those OP OP ultras got a nerf (/sarcasm) | ||
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SwaY-
Dominican Republic463 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:04 bobcat wrote: "We also want to address the problem of protoss being able to dump minerals a bit too quickly with the combination of warpgates and Chrono Boost." This nerf mainly effects proxy gate and korean warp. I'm not going to get upset because the two dominant cheese and or all in strategies in PvP have been nerfed. And if you use zealots heavily in your trans to templar, you'll be happy to know that tanks now do 30% less damage to them. So as long as you get charge, you should be cutting through those marine and marauders pretty well especiall with a few sentries to FF the escape. . how have they been nerfed? how has korean warpgate been nerfed? the counter to korean warpgate was... to make zealots to stop it. | ||
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araged
Czech Republic189 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:08 Zato-1 wrote: With zealots getting nerfed but marine/marauder staying just as strong, I'm concerned about what these changes would do to the (already lopsided IMO) early game TvP balance. The nerf beeing 5 sec longer build time? From a warpgate? Mhhm... | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
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yeti
United States258 Posts
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Bleb
Croatia278 Posts
I counter 7 pool by complete wallof so I don't think extra 5 sec on zealot will hurt me so much BCs and tanks were units I had most problem against... especially on 1v1 maps... I just hope terrans will forget to use hellions as they used to : ) as for longer warpgates cd I think protoss will have to learn to Chrono boost warpgates (as we honestly should) or simply throw in extra gates mid game as for zvt I think changes are awesome No longer is engaging terran out of position so obligatory and if I understand Ultras well now they'll actually kill scvs repairing planetary fortresses with splash damage (?) correct me if I'm wrong but to me this feels like ultra buff not nerf (smarted attacks > 5 dmg vs armored) (?) | ||
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crazeman
664 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:11 SwaY- wrote: dayvie is not the #1 player in the world. "But according to sc2ranks.com he is!!!1111" /roll eyes I'm glad blizzard posted this, maybe now we'll see less "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" posts. Less QQ, more pewpew! | ||
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tacrats
476 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:11 PKCarwash wrote: I wish they had gone a different route when balancing the races...they seem to have the "nerf each race until they are all balanced" mindset If they think tanks BC's and reapers are too powerful, then they should have buffed P and Z up to T's standards, not nerf everything IMO anyways now my wallin in PvZ is going to take 10 more seconds to be zergling tight... =\... yay but at least those OP OP ultras got a nerf (/sarcasm) Because things already have inflated damage and stats as it is. its time to start toning it down. | ||
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Vokasak
United States388 Posts
Same thing with the bunker nonsense. TLO (as zerg) has already shown us how stupidly easy it is to deal with bunker+marine. >:[ And siege tanks...remember back when they used to deal 60 damage all around? I'm not even sure what they're used for anymore... The worst part is that now Zerg players are being conditioned that solving their own gameplay problems is unnessessary, since Blizzard will come and wave their magic wand for them every time they cry loud enough. >:[ At least now maybe the flood of complainthreads will stop, but I wouldn't be on it. >:[ >:[ >:[ | ||
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EximoSua2
United States216 Posts
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monad
United States156 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:11 SwaY- wrote: dayvie is not the #1 player in the world. Well he had more points than anyone else last time I checked the rankings, but now he's only in the top 10. So my bad. | ||
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PKCarwash
United States37 Posts
ctrl+f "marauder" notice anything?...it's not there They think reapers are too good vs zerg, but marauders aren't too good vs protoss? | ||
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bobcat
United States488 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:08 Zato-1 wrote: With zealots getting nerfed but marine/marauder staying just as strong, I'm concerned about what these changes would do to the (already lopsided IMO) early game TvP balance. I would much rather have a small imba towards terran early game over a large imba towards terran midgame. Besides, a 5 second delay isn't exactly a nerf. The zealots are still just as strong, they just take longer to build. 5 seconds longer, this has almost no effect on long term macro. If anything, you should worry more about 6 pool and 8 pool on maps like Steppes of War where 5 seconds can actually make a difference. | ||
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monad
United States156 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:13 crazeman wrote: "But according to sc2ranks.com he is!!!1111" /roll eyes I'm glad blizzard posted this, maybe now we'll see less "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" posts. Less QQ, more pewpew! Points is the only way we have of comparing people since blizzard won't say anything about the true ranking system. Since there is a very strong mathematical correlation between the ranks on blizzard's top 200 and the point rankings on sc2ranks.com, I think it's safe to make statements like this. And by "very strong mathematical correlation" I mean "the spearman rank correlation coefficient between blizz top 200 rank and points is very strongly negative". | ||
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shawabawa
United Kingdom417 Posts
On August 28 2010 05:00 branflakes14 wrote: Chrono Boost lasts 20 seconds and increases production speed by 50%. Since the added amount (50%) is 1/3 of the new total (150%), this means all Chrono Boost does is knock 6.66 seconds off whatever is being made, which is where the flaw in your maths lies. Gateway + Chrono boosted Zealot now: 65 + (33 - 6.66) = 91.33 seconds After patch: 65 + (38 - 6.66) = 96.33 seconds Chrono Boost isn't some magic speed boost that makes everything magical and fast, all it does is knock 6.66 seconds off whatever is being made. Actually I'm pretty sure chrono boost knocks off 10 seconds. I might be wrong but here's my reasoning: 50% faster build time for 20 seconds gives 30 seconds worth of build time. In that 20 seconds you build the same as 30 seconds unchronoboosted = 10 seconds saved | ||
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araged
Czech Republic189 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:14 EximoSua2 wrote: As a Terran, as long as tanks still one shot Banelings, I'll be ok with this. /care /lol I'll just build more tanks, I'll build 200 supply of them, noone will stop MY TANKS! BWHAHAHAHHWAHAWH | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On August 28 2010 05:49 tubey wrote: Wow has ruined pc gaming in terms of community, Because Blizzard was so gungho about nerfing and buffing in wow, the wow xfers all think things should be nerfed and buffed every other week. dota community is much worse. | ||
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greycubed
United States615 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
I wouldn't necessarily say that. Both are horrible and vermin infested. | ||
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