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TLDR: I have created a small game that allows you to practice hotkeys in your browser. You can play it here: http://www.norhack.org/sc2/terran.html
I mostly lurk these forums, but for once I am able to contribute something to TL 
One of my weaknesses as a player is that I'm slow. I just can't use hotkeys beyond the most basic one (when building structures, workers, marines etc). I just find that using hotkeys is very mentally tasking when I'm not used to doing it. When playing online, it's a lot easier to give in to the old habits of clicking at stuff instead of pressing keys on the keyboard.
So I decided to make a small game to help me practice hotkeys, without the need to worry about micro, macro, strategy and whatnot. Click on the link on the top to play it.
For now, only Terran is supported, and the game is relatively short. It's more or less a 3 rax MM push abstracted into hotkeys :p I'm looking for feedback on what I've got now (game too long, too short?), and hope that someone can help me out with a protoss and zerg version. If you send me (or post in this thread) a set of hotkeys in the format inside the spoiler, I'll upload it, link it and give you credit.
+ Show Spoiler +4s:Train SCV;
2bs*:Build Supply Depot;
4s:Train SCV;
2bb*:Build Barracks;
4s:Train SCV;
2br*:Build Refinery;
4s:Train SCV;
5a:Train Marine;
4b:Upgrade to Orbital Command;
5x:Add Tech Lab to Barracks;
4s:Train SCV;
2bb*:Build Barracks;
5d:Train Maruder;
5c:Add Reactor to Barracks;
4s:Train SCV;
5aaa:Train 3 Marines;
2be*:Build Engineering Bay;
4s:Train SCV;
2bs*:Build Supply Depot;
0c:Research Marine Shields;
5d:Train Maruder;
4s:Train SCV;
2bs*:Build Supply Depot;
5aa:Train 2 Marines;
0g:Research Concussive Shells;
5r:Train Reaper;
8e:Research Ground Infantry Weapons;
2vf*:Build Factory;
4s:Train SCV;
I would really appreciate it if someone made something like this for zerg or protoss. And of course an improved terran version.
PS: The APM score is probably worthless to compare to the 'real' (as in in game APM), but for me it were sort of close. I'm curios to see if it reflects other peoples APM as well. The reason it's there is so that you can compare it between games.
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i honestly think you would probably be better off practicing your hotkeys in game because then you can practice other things at the same time like your build orders and how you react when under pressure and adjusting to different builds but to each his own.
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On August 26 2010 02:44 Killver wrote:
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What browser are you using?
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Cool, I think this would be a good tool for newer players/players switching races to learn hotkeys.
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I like it! Can you do me a favor though... I assume the point of this is to be able to "practice" while you're unable to access the game. (cough - work - cough)... can you setup an identical one that looks less like a video game? No background and smaller font size on the obvious text?
Either way thanks! I'll def use it.
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On August 26 2010 02:52 JrK wrote:
I like it! Can you do me a favor though... I assume the point of this is to be able to "practice" while you're unable to access the game. (cough - work - cough)... can you setup an identical one that looks less like a video game? No background and smaller font size on the obvious text?
Either way thanks! I'll def use it.
indeed a mobile or "work version" would be much appreciated,
thanks,
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Is there any way to get new buildings/units to automatically add to a control group. For instance warp gates do this automatically and when u click w it selects all warp gates, is there any way for you to select all units minus probes by clicking 1 without continually reseting your group 1 to add new units.
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I made one =) I hope its compatible.
1 Attacking units ( Zerglings, Banelings, Roaches, Ultralisks, hydralisks, mutalisks, corruptors and broodlords ).
2 Caster units ( Infestors ).
3 Drone
4 Queen's
5 Hatchery's
8 All tech buildings.
9 Overseers/Nydus worm.
0 Overlords
+ Show Spoiler +
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sv:Make overlord;
3be*:Build extractor;
4v*:Inject larva;
1r:Burrow banelings;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
5l:Upgrade to Lair;
1x:Explode banelings from underground;
2f*:Use Fungal growth;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5sv:Make overlord;
5sc:Make corruptors;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
1a*:Attack wit units;
3h*:Make hatchery;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
3vu*:Build ultralisk cavern;
8c:Upgrade carapace( ground armour );
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
0g:Start vomiting creep with overlords;
0v:Morph overseer;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5p:Get overlord speed;
2e*:Cast neural parasite;
ENTERggENTER*:Scout 5rax Reaper;
Funny game ^^ good to remember hotkeys for the newbies who still use click. Well made =).
Btw it works on google Chrome for me.
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not really related to your link buuut- to help with muscle memory and to stop using the buttons on the bottom right of the screen you should do what i did (for bw but it still applies). I put a post-it on my monitor to cover the button grid thing up to force myself to use the keyboard. haha it was horrible at first... i would click d to make defilers and would get a shit load of drones instead lol but soon i found myself being able to hit all the right keys so when i took the post it off i was able to play without using the screen buttons 
i also did something similar to force myself to stop using the arrow keys to move around the screen- rely more on hotkeys and mouse. helped improved my game A LOT -> d- to d haha (im c- now )
this shit still applies to sc2
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Why would you make this for terran?
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On August 26 2010 03:09 Chaosvuistje wrote:I made one =) I hope its compatible. 1 Attacking units ( Zerglings, Banelings, Roaches, Ultralisks, hydralisks, mutalisks, corruptors and broodlords ). 2 Caster units ( Infestors ). 3 Drone 4 Queen's 5 Hatchery's 8 All tech buildings. 9 Overseers/Nydus worm. 0 Overlords + Show Spoiler +
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sv:Make overlord;
3be*:Build extractor;
4v*:Inject larva;
1r:Burrow banelings;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
5l:Upgrade to Lair;
1x:Explode banelings from underground;
2f*:Use Fungal growth;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5sv:Make overlord;
5sc:Make corruptors;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
1a*:Attack wit units;
3h*:Make hatchery;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
3vu*:Build ultralisk cavern;
8c:Upgrade carapace( ground armour );
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
0g:Start vomiting creep with overlords;
0v:Morph overseer;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5p:Get overlord speed;
2e*:Cast neural parasite;
ENTERggENTER*:Scout 5rax Reaper;
Funny game ^^ good to remember hotkeys for the newbies who still use click. Well made =). Btw it works on google Chrome for me.
An alternative setup can be:
+ Show Spoiler +1 - Pawns (i.e. Roaches, Lings, Drones)
2 - DPS (i.e. Hydras)
3 - Casters and flanks (Also used to hotkey first overlord scout)
4 - Hatchery
5 - Queen #1
6 - Queen #2
7 - Queen #3
8 - Queen #4
9 - Building for upgrades (i.e. Evo chamber)
0 - Nydus Worm
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I was just about to post this as an idea for those l33t hackers out there ^^ awesome dude
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On August 26 2010 03:09 Chaosvuistje wrote:I made one =) I hope its compatible. 1 Attacking units ( Zerglings, Banelings, Roaches, Ultralisks, hydralisks, mutalisks, corruptors and broodlords ). 2 Caster units ( Infestors ). 3 Drone 4 Queen's 5 Hatchery's 8 All tech buildings. 9 Overseers/Nydus worm. 0 Overlords + Show Spoiler +
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sv:Make overlord;
3be*:Build extractor;
4v*:Inject larva;
1r:Burrow banelings;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
5l:Upgrade to Lair;
1x:Explode banelings from underground;
2f*:Use Fungal growth;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5sv:Make overlord;
5sc:Make corruptors;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
1a*:Attack wit units;
3h*:Make hatchery;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
3vu*:Build ultralisk cavern;
8c:Upgrade carapace( ground armour );
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
0g:Start vomiting creep with overlords;
0v:Morph overseer;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5p:Get overlord speed;
2e*:Cast neural parasite;
ENTERggENTER*:Scout 5rax Reaper;
Funny game ^^ good to remember hotkeys for the newbies who still use click. Well made =). Btw it works on google Chrome for me.
Seems to me that the sequence is supposed to be a possible game sequence. This sequence is impossible. Banelings with no nest. Burrow before lair. Ultra cavern with no hive. Upgrade with no EV chamber.
I'd work on a possible FE sequence if I weren't in class...
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On August 26 2010 03:21 vizniz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:09 Chaosvuistje wrote:I made one =) I hope its compatible. 1 Attacking units ( Zerglings, Banelings, Roaches, Ultralisks, hydralisks, mutalisks, corruptors and broodlords ). 2 Caster units ( Infestors ). 3 Drone 4 Queen's 5 Hatchery's 8 All tech buildings. 9 Overseers/Nydus worm. 0 Overlords + Show Spoiler +
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sv:Make overlord;
3be*:Build extractor;
4v*:Inject larva;
1r:Burrow banelings;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
5l:Upgrade to Lair;
1x:Explode banelings from underground;
2f*:Use Fungal growth;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5sv:Make overlord;
5sc:Make corruptors;
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
1a*:Attack wit units;
3h*:Make hatchery;
5sd:Make drone;
4v*:Inject larva;
3vu*:Build ultralisk cavern;
8c:Upgrade carapace( ground armour );
4v*:Inject larva;
4c*:Make creep tumor;
0g:Start vomiting creep with overlords;
0v:Morph overseer;
4v*:Inject larva;
5sd:Make drone;
5p:Get overlord speed;
2e*:Cast neural parasite;
ENTERggENTER*:Scout 5rax Reaper;
Funny game ^^ good to remember hotkeys for the newbies who still use click. Well made =). Btw it works on google Chrome for me. Seems to me that the sequence is supposed to be a possible game sequence. This sequence is impossible. Banelings with no nest. Burrow before lair. Ultra cavern with no hive. Upgrade with no EV chamber. I'd work on a possible FE sequence if I weren't in class...
Maybe it is indeed intended to be a game sequence. But I'm not sure if that matters any if you are only remembering hotkeys rather than doing an exact build. I might be wrong though =). The way I learned hotkeys was not through an indoctrination of a certain sequence, but rather learning on the fly.
Anyone is free to change the order of mine around though =).
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Seems like an okay game, but it's going to be much too limited in simulating the early game. Specifically I don't see any way of adding a scout feature and practice having to maintain focus at multiple locations or build orders or etc.
To improve on what you have on right now, you should probably make the groups customizable as you go along, so say you want to start things only using your 1-3 control groups, you can change the groups later with ctrl + # or something somehow.
Also you should have more possible locations to click on than just a button. We're not always going to be building a supply depot and barracks etc. all the same location. Having to think where to click helps simulate the thinking process before you just plop down a building, instead of just building them wherever.
Imo it might be better to just have a game for just learning all of the hotkeys instead of control group + hotkey usage. Kind of like a flash card game for learning hotkeys.
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I'm a protoss who would like to switch to grid keys so I would use this to practice that. (If not for Immortal 'I' I would stay with std... Plus I can't learn the all the upgrade keys.)
Also I'm a fan of working on localized things instead of trying to do this in game. Probably more efficient/effective. Nice work.
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You should just have a random hotkey to press. I mean it would help more if people could press 1-0 without looking at the keyboard. Of course more leaning on 1-5 than 6-0.
Also, do responses too. Like, if you say in red text, spire or mutalisk, then the correct response would be a turret, most likely.
4 Starport = 4[hotkey chain for starport because I'm a noob]
8 SCV = 8s
2 (Red) Mutalisk = 2vt [click]
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Okay, so I've finally got to uploading Chaosvuistje's contribution. It can be played here. Thanks a lot for helping out
I'll try to make a 'work safe' version and some more games over the weekend.
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Any updates on this? I'd love to do this at work with your 'work safe' version if it's ready... also, I'm wanting to learn how to use IdrA's hotkey setup (quoted below, mentioned earlier in the thread), could you please add that one? Or how about a method to make custom hotkey setups.. I think it's more important to memorize the hotkeys/ctrl groups than the build order as you should be able to decide that on the fly / adjust as necessary with scouting.
Thanks!
1 - Pawns (i.e. Roaches, Lings, Drones)
2 - DPS (i.e. Hydras)
3 - Casters and flanks (Also used to hotkey first overlord scout)
4 - Hatchery
5 - Queen #1
6 - Queen #2
7 - Queen #3
8 - Queen #4
9 - Building for upgrades (i.e. Evo chamber)
0 - Nydus Worm
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Any chances of an update to the current version as well as for TRM (TheCore) hotkeys? Your idea includes control groups contrary to the Hotkey Trainer (arcade map).
gl hf gg
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