no but it is normal that when your employer (who can take away your licence) is not pleased with the situation you're in...you race out and have a Korean German ( aka Reis , organizer ) talk in your behave.

koppik

United States676 Posts

August 22 2010 00:34 GMT

#422

NaDa seemed like he had a ton of fun game 2, so it was sad to see game 3 end like that.

Parnage

United States7414 Posts

August 22 2010 00:35 GMT

#423

Just another in a growing list of reasons of Kespa "caring" about it's fans and esports. This is just sad to see happening. Show match like this just completely sidelined due to Kespa's over reaction and utter disgusting attempts at covering up the fact they axed an event because of some random stream into Korea.

Someone needs to get a list together of all of the various screw-up's and point to it every time some one tries to say Kespa cares about anything related to it's fans and esports.

~Matthias

Canada56 Posts

August 22 2010 00:41 GMT

#424

Kespa can't do Starcraft II. Blizzard fucked them over with no lan support, and probably wanted a part of the profits.

If Koreans start wanting the BW pros to switch over to SC2, then Kespa is over.

It wasn't the right move to cancel the match, but I can definately see why it happened.

Both Blizzard and Kespa are to blame for this.

P.S. I can't believe we're already having Bnet 2.0 problems. Thats so fucking ridiculous. I hope Blizzard is embarrassed.

hacpee

United States752 Posts

August 22 2010 00:41 GMT

#425

On August 22 2010 08:39 IamAnton wrote:
Raiznhell you are so right, it was Kespa who got screwed after being caught breaking a contract they had signed with blizzard over intellectual rights. I totally blame Blizzard for enforcing a clear contract violation, and Kespa banning all teams from playing in GOM Tournaments. Stupid Blizzard trying to make sc2 esports global while poor Kespa now has to make money illegally a different way.

What contract did Kespa sign again?

hacpee

United States752 Posts

August 22 2010 00:43 GMT

#426

On August 22 2010 09:35 Parnage wrote:
Just another in a growing list of reasons of Kespa "caring" about it's fans and esports. This is just sad to see happening. Show match like this just completely sidelined due to Kespa's over reaction and utter disgusting attempts at covering up the fact they axed an event because of some random stream into Korea.

Someone needs to get a list together of all of the various screw-up's and point to it every time some one tries to say Kespa cares about anything related to it's fans and esports.

Kespa cares enough to invest millions of dollars into Esports each and every year supporting teams and coaching/support staff.

Qikz

United Kingdom12047 Posts

August 22 2010 00:52 GMT

#427

On August 22 2010 09:41 ~Matthias wrote:
Kespa can't do Starcraft II. Blizzard fucked them over with no lan support, and probably wanted a part of the profits.

If Koreans start wanting the BW pros to switch over to SC2, then Kespa is over.

It wasn't the right move to cancel the match, but I can definately see why it happened.

Both Blizzard and Kespa are to blame for this.

P.S. I can't believe we're already having Bnet 2.0 problems. Thats so fucking ridiculous. I hope Blizzard is embarrassed.

I'm not sure if you've actually been reading about what's happening, but GOM have been given Lan Support for use by progamers, or people who play in the massive GOM tourneys, it's just Kespa wanting to milk money out of something they haven't even made without giving Blizzard a penny of it.

Also, I'm not sure if you know how software/hardware works, but generally you have a lot of problems at the beginning of software, aka in this situation it's BNET 2.0, which will get ironed out as time goes by.

nukkuj

Finland403 Posts

August 22 2010 01:01 GMT

#428

On August 22 2010 09:52 Qikz wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'm not sure if you've actually been reading about what's happening, but GOM have been given Lan Support for use by progamers, or people who play in the massive GOM tourneys...

Source?

heishe

Germany2284 Posts

August 22 2010 01:01 GMT

#429

On August 22 2010 09:43 hacpee wrote:

Show nested quote +

Kespa cares enough to invest millions of dollars into Esports each and every year supporting teams and coaching/support staff.

Yes, Kespa clearly is a charity organization. They invest money out of their own pockets, without any return on investment whatsoever.

Pulimuli

Sweden2766 Posts

August 22 2010 01:10 GMT

#430

On August 22 2010 09:20 Clipped wrote:

Show nested quote +

I believe TLO said in the interview after the show-match that he was impressed at NaDa's play considering he only started playing SC2 10 days ago.

and by saying "10 days ago" im pretty sure he hasnt played many matches, as he is, still a sc1 progamer and only played during his spare time

KaiserJohan

Sweden1808 Posts

August 22 2010 01:19 GMT

#431

On August 22 2010 09:43 hacpee wrote:

Show nested quote +

Kespa cares enough to invest millions of dollars into Esports each and every year supporting teams and coaching/support staff.

Yeah because thats how they make a living...?

Not saying blizzard is doing a better job, but still, if they truly love esports they shouldn't screw it up for the gamers.

Wolf

Korea (South)3290 Posts

August 22 2010 01:24 GMT

#432

ESL still staying quiet on this ? Sigh.

tournamentnow

Australia111 Posts

August 22 2010 01:47 GMT

#433

just as carmac says, OP
source: http://tv.esl.eu/de/program/view/39778
ESL: 'Update: There will be no VoD of the match, since Kespa didn't officially allow NaDa to play a showmatch.'

FOMOS is BS though they are pro kespa instead of being a truthful news website.

cAPS

United States153 Posts

August 22 2010 01:48 GMT

#434

Is that livestream of the TLO - Nada game going full retard for anyone else?

DoomFox

Canada51 Posts

August 22 2010 01:50 GMT

#435

On August 22 2010 10:48 cAPS wrote:
Is that livestream of the TLO - Nada game going full retard for anyone else?

It kept going crazy for me. I think it was just a bad stream when it was recorded because the video would still play even though nothing was happening. You just have to slightly fast forward the video to keep watching it.

aimaimaim

Philippines2167 Posts

August 22 2010 02:55 GMT

#436

gaiz gaiz .. think of it this way ..

think of kespa's scapegoat reasoning for our benefit .. think of it as "pros dont want to play in an unstable playing field".. im just saying use this to our advantage. make it a prime example of why we need LAN connection.

+ Show Spoiler +

i know fuck kespa but fuck blizzard too .. both are greedy schmuks ..

Ciryandor

United States3735 Posts

August 22 2010 03:03 GMT

#437

Well, I hope that the problems here in IEM on connectivity actually push Blizz to open up their rumored "Professional Edition" for tournaments much faster; where they can actually play it over a LAN instead of having to route their netcode over B.Net.02

koppik

United States676 Posts

August 22 2010 03:09 GMT

#438

The "professional edition" was just a false rumor, right?

Blizzard did say they would add "tournament functionality"--presumably LAN but who knows--by the end of the year.

AyeH

United States534 Posts

August 22 2010 04:10 GMT

#439

i'm sure some hacker/proGRAMMER will find a way to enable lan support for the general public. it's only a matter of time.

Slow Motion

United States6960 Posts

August 22 2010 04:15 GMT

#440

On August 22 2010 13:10 Dr3w wrote:
i'm sure some hacker/proGRAMMER will find a way to enable lan support for the general public. it's only a matter of time.

It's a disgrace that this is even necessary, but I hope it happens soon. Ah well despite the gayness from both Blizzard and Kespa in this showmatch, it was still a treat to see NaDa play for a bit. And TLO was brilliant as usual. Everyone watch game 2 it was amazing.