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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
October 12 2010 16:22 GMT
#1401
I don't think they're hating on the idea of iccup maps, what they're doing is admirable, but quite frankly sometimes its just no up to par. Obviously their maps are greater than blizzard but thats like saying yumm, this tastes better than shit!

They have the potential to squeek out good maps, some of them seem good enough, but just can't get into the mainstream when theres no incentive to play or practice those maps.

And most of their maps are BW remakes under different names (in terms of terrain set up and where bases are located).
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Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
October 12 2010 16:34 GMT
#1402
I think they overreacted on the latest episode about the people complaining what incontrol was saying to TLO. Does that sentance make sense?

Anyway, im pretty sure 99% of the listeners just find the banter hilarious. Its mostly people that are unhappy about something that make posts on TL. Rarely do you find a thread like "i think Race 1 vs Race 2 is such a balanced MU nowadays". So don't read too much into the whiners, most of us are normal guys.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
October 12 2010 16:44 GMT
#1403
you guys kick ass for doing things like this. Thank you all awesome members of TL involved past and future of this and such things like it.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
October 12 2010 16:47 GMT
#1404
Loved the terran bashing, way to please the community. Artosis & Incontrol were golden and even Huk kinda fit in. Tyler needs to talk more !
When in doubt, just drone up.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 12 2010 17:25 GMT
#1405
Quick shoutout to JP for being hilarious this episode, big props man :D
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
October 12 2010 17:36 GMT
#1406
Is Shakuras really a 3 player map? I swear I've seen players spawn at all different positions from me.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 12 2010 17:49 GMT
#1407
On October 13 2010 02:36 Fraidnot wrote:
Is Shakuras really a 3 player map? I swear I've seen players spawn at all different positions from me.

It's a 3 player map in the sense that once you've spawned on the map, there's only 2 other possible positions where the opponent could be.
jamvng
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada244 Posts
October 12 2010 17:58 GMT
#1408
I personally think the Artosis bashing about the imba stuff is sometimes going overboard. It's funny but try not to go tooooo overboard =P.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
October 12 2010 18:14 GMT
#1409
Incontrol is kind of sexy, in a bear kind of way!
I am not young enough to know everything.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:19:38
October 12 2010 18:18 GMT
#1410
On October 12 2010 23:39 Kishkumen wrote:
I'm waiting for iCCup.Diamond to come in here because he's gonna be understandably pissed. Pretty bad luck that iCCup maps are discussed with HuK and no Day9. Especially the comments about how "they're all bw ports" seem pretty ignorant. I mean, some of the arguments against the iCCup maps were valid, but a lot of the issues were misconceptions that Diamond has been addressing since day one of the iCCup map project. It just seemed like without Day9 there was no one to defend the other side of the argument which does have some pretty strong points of its own.


I was really disappointed that Day9 was not there, but discussion is discussion.

Just for the record though since there was a major misconception that HuK only helped pushed:

iCCup Map Pool
BW Remakes: 6
Original Maps: 18

BW Remakes: 25%
Original Maps: 75%


I am done trying to convince HuK of this however as he has made up his mind everything with iCCup in the map name sucks and is unusable because we have a couple BW remakes.

Time will tell and I have a feeling this is not the last time this discussion will pop up. One thing you cannot deny however is the fans want new maps.
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Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
October 12 2010 18:43 GMT
#1411
I think they're main argument about the maps is that the concepts are based too much on BW-style of play.

That begs the question what SC2-style of play actually means.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 12 2010 18:45 GMT
#1412
xel naga towers, high yield expansions in exposed locations and destructible rocks/hidden expansions (island)
dutpotd
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada49 Posts
October 12 2010 18:47 GMT
#1413
Artosis' version of Canadian Thanksgiving is pretty damn hilarious, I laugh during most podcasts, but that was the best yet.

Good fun all around.

“Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.”
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:55:57
October 12 2010 18:54 GMT
#1414
I'm subscribed to about 30 podcasts on my ipod (of various topics & subjects).

I look forward to some podcasts more than others.

The first one with the core 4 was extremely awkward. But over these past few week's, State of the Game seems to have really gotten its stride. This is now one of the better ones.

Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
October 12 2010 18:58 GMT
#1415
Just a quick shout out to you guys. I love the podcast, the banter, and the SC2 insight. Great job, please keep it coming! I gave you a five-star review on iTunes. iNControL making fun of people is one of the best parts of the cast imho, please don't tone it down artificially, unless the guests themselves are actually getting offended. I do wonder if TLO understood that everything was all in good fun, given the language and culture barrier, though. The level of Artosis-bashing that goes on would certainly piss me off if it was directed to me, but as it is hilarious I say keep it up unless he objects.
ESPORTS prevails
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11101 Posts
October 12 2010 19:01 GMT
#1416
Artosis "I don't know how you can think this and be a top level player"

Amen huk. Storm does jack.

Incontrol I think tried too hard to repeat inspiration.

Good episode. The banter makes it worht listening to ^_^
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 12 2010 19:03 GMT
#1417
im TRYING SO HARD DOG YOU DON'T EVEN KNOWWWWWW
Cider
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
October 12 2010 19:05 GMT
#1418
On October 13 2010 03:18 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 23:39 Kishkumen wrote:
I'm waiting for iCCup.Diamond to come in here because he's gonna be understandably pissed. Pretty bad luck that iCCup maps are discussed with HuK and no Day9. Especially the comments about how "they're all bw ports" seem pretty ignorant. I mean, some of the arguments against the iCCup maps were valid, but a lot of the issues were misconceptions that Diamond has been addressing since day one of the iCCup map project. It just seemed like without Day9 there was no one to defend the other side of the argument which does have some pretty strong points of its own.


I was really disappointed that Day9 was not there, but discussion is discussion.

Just for the record though since there was a major misconception that HuK only helped pushed:

iCCup Map Pool
BW Remakes: 6
Original Maps: 18

BW Remakes: 25%
Original Maps: 75%


I am done trying to convince HuK of this however as he has made up his mind everything with iCCup in the map name sucks and is unusable because we have a couple BW remakes.

Time will tell and I have a feeling this is not the last time this discussion will pop up. One thing you cannot deny however is the fans want new maps.



I really enjoy this podcast and listen to it every week. Thanks for discussing the iCCup maps in this podcast, however I think it'd be cool if you (JP) managed to get the hosts to try out a bunch of iCCup maps and then have another discussion. There weren't any real critiques of iCCup maps other than "they're BW remakes" (which isn't even true in most cases, as Diamond stated) and "they're not made by Koreans." I'm a terribad player and I think a lot of the iCCup maps are really really good, so I'd really like a pro opinion on the maps. Which the pros can't give if they can't play them. Obviously i understand there's not much incentive to play the maps yet since no big money tournaments are using them, but in that case you guys don't really have a strong basis to critique them.
You can't spell Courage without Rage
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
October 12 2010 19:10 GMT
#1419
One more thing...

Tyler is the weak link the of the co-hosts. This may or may not be fixed if he speaks up more.

On a positive note: This also may or may not be fixed if he continues to lose bets on air and have to suffer the consequences week in and week out.

Yeah, that might do it. That could be his thing and I approve.

Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
October 12 2010 19:11 GMT
#1420
God i love Artosis :D


Great fucking show again. My favorite show easily.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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