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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On April 05 2011 09:12 itmeJP wrote: Tomorrow will prove to be a very interesting show with a ton of people listening-in to see what our thoughts are on this past weekend. I'm so anxious for it. JP, Invite Sundance to the show ? | ||
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Nidoa
Canada239 Posts
if he's not on the show i bet he'll listen in. which would make JP quite uncomfortable i imagine. Thankfully he's not the most opiniated one of the lot anyways. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:17 Nidoa wrote: if he's not on the show i bet he'll listen in. which would make JP quite uncomfortable i imagine. Thankfully he's not the most opiniated one of the lot anyways. What is there to be uncomfortable about? Everyone knows the stream production was a total disaster and after reading the live thread amongst other ones it couldn't get possibly be any worse. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:15 Jiddra wrote: Please, don't put words in my mouth. read again, thank you. Should have been clearer, my apologies; that was directed at various people who have claimed that Inc got an easy ride. | ||
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Asparagus
United States269 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:13 Nidoa wrote: I hope you're going to at least mention that incident TLO and Hot_bid were talking about in TLO's interview, where some fan didn't know who Tyler was (although he knew pretty much every other pro present). That would be hilarious. i think it's because Tyler looks the most normal out of them all. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:15 Creep wrote: Incontrol said himself on stage that he felt like a big Quesadilla after his first two games against TLO. *googles quesadilla* Oh. Well that's just because he's a nice guy. Still TLO's fault. Not scouting a pylon 3 inches away from your main CC...come on. And besides, Inc proved he can beat TLO in a macro game in their second series anyway. | ||
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
Yes, plz Talk about what else went wrong, What will be improved and what to expect for future events. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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densha
United States797 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:43 zaii wrote: Yes, plz Talk about what else went wrong and what will be improved and what to expect for future events. I would say let's not have Sundance on. It would be an hour or more of just listening to the poor guy apologize and taking blame for the problems and promising to resolve them for next time. Do we really need to hear that on SOTG? I just don't think it's fair to have him on when there's not going to be anything new to address that wasn't already addressed in his apologies. | ||
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Kisra
United Kingdom466 Posts
To say anything beyond "We heard it went unacceptably bad, but the MLG tech guys said it was the convention center's internet - which MLG even replaced with better tech but still struggled - so hopefully that won't happen again." would be difficult. The stream on Day 1 and Day 2 had so many issues that it went beyond any claims of "corner-cutting" or MLG's errors. It is simply not profitable in the slightest to even the most cynical of minds to have the stream go that badly. They apparently had staff working through the night and vast amounts of (likely unpaid) overtime. They're offering full refunds on HD passes (which is a net loss in profit by quite a margin), and have promised a change in the future. What struck me most of all throughout the entire thing was Sundance's twitter. He took huge amounts of flak and personal abuse and kept his cool throughout. Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I doubt the entire thing could've been handled much better. If it happens again at Columbus, then sure, there's a major issue at the heart of MLG, but otherwise the stream issues aren't a major talking point beyond "Yes, its unacceptably bad". Of course, nothing should stop them talking about things like the format (it is incredibly difficult to follow and to know when a match is crucial or just sends someone to the loser's bracket. Or how that match effects the tournament as a whole) - or delays between play. QXC ranted a fair bit in an interview with the wonderful MrBitters about such delays, and it sounds a wise talking point. These are the things that sound like fairer and more interesting topics. I don't think listening to people say "Yep, stream was bad!" for 2hrs would really work, like some are expecting. I also want to hear about what happened to Tyler, poor guy D: Grats on 4th iNc, love the show JP, keep it all going, etc, etc. | ||
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whiteyrulez
United States9 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:17 Nidoa wrote: if he's not on the show i bet he'll listen in. which would make JP quite uncomfortable i imagine. Thankfully he's not the most opiniated one of the lot anyways. This is kind of what I was thinking. You'd hate to bash MLG too hard...considering you were/are 'employed' by them. I wonder to what extent JP and Day[9] will talk about MLG. | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:50 densha wrote: I would say let's not have Sundance on. It would be an hour or more of just listening to the poor guy apologize and taking blame for the problems and promising to resolve them for next time. Do we really need to hear that on SOTG? I just don't think it's fair to have him on when there's not going to be anything new to address that wasn't already addressed in his apologies. Yea, he should decline if he knew what is best for him. Sundance should not talk to any community without a plan, how to improve to the next event, that he can show. He should be on when they have figured out what to do about this mess. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
http://twitter.com/#!/MLG_Sundance/status/55104465400893440 it's all up to JP and the other hosts. | ||
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Hatorade
299 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
It will be a boring show just to have him apologize for the whole show. And probably since it was so recent,i imagine he is still very exhausted mentally and physically. It is hard to imagine the pillars will be overly critical of him because of that. Invite him when all the dust settles down. Let iNcontrol have his moment of glory. The dude deserves it after all the harsh criticism coming his way. Talk with IdrA about the hallucination incident and his sweet revenge. What iNc thinks of extended series now ( don't talk about the format but just how he benefits from it in a humorous way) The weekend was depressing enough, lets not have a depressing show. Oh and of course talk about naniwa's monster run. as well as the gsl world championship. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On April 05 2011 12:11 zaii wrote: well it seems Sundance will gladly be on the podcast if JP invites him. http://twitter.com/#!/MLG_Sundance/status/55104465400893440 it's all up to JP and the other hosts. I wouldn't really mind getting him on but, as others have said, telling him how bad it was isn't beneficial to anyone since he already knows. Be interesting to discuss some other MLG related things such as possibly booths or any ideas their organization has for further improvement (non tech related). So my official vote on getting Sundance on the podcast is: I don't care either way.  | ||
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bwally
United States670 Posts
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
What might be worth discussing are other ways to improve the experience, like getting more games broadcast. And I mean stuff like having the next game ready to go after one game finishes so people aren't sitting around waiting for 30 minutes. (This is especially true after the stream goes on a break. When it's 4:25 and you say, "We'll be back on at 5!" and then don't start the next game until 5:30, it's just stupid.) That plus results from GSL from last week plus NASL stuff and naturally all the awesome games that got played at MLG. Yeah. Talk about that stuff. | ||
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venge1155
United States174 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:55 Kisra wrote: One key thing to keep in mind is all four pillars were at the event, so didn't have to handle the stream issues. By and large the event at the place ran fairly smoothly, from many accounts, although suffered from delays and lag. To say anything beyond "We heard it went unacceptably bad, but the MLG tech guys said it was the convention center's internet - which MLG even replaced with better tech but still struggled - so hopefully that won't happen again." would be difficult. The stream on Day 1 and Day 2 had so many issues that it went beyond any claims of "corner-cutting" or MLG's errors. It is simply not profitable in the slightest to even the most cynical of minds to have the stream go that badly. Yea I mean the guys freaking casting the thing, you know the guys interacting with the stream for 95% of its time up, would have no idea about all the stream problems..... anyway I am also looking forward to it, but I think they will be more critical of the no LAN stuff than MLGs streaming issues as, as said, MLG will fix them eventually no matter what. | ||
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