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susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
April 05 2011 04:03 GMT
#13501
On April 05 2011 08:08 legaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 07:20 Bellygareth wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.


He played well against terrible players, fared OK and cheesed a lot against out-of-form good players (TLO) and lose in a convincing fashion (at least, he convinced me he was bad) against good players (Select, Kiwikaki).


Yeah he lost to Kiwi and SeleCT. But doesnt it make sense that the 4th place player, Incontrol, would lose to #2 and #3? (Kiwi, select)... lol
SMD
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada627 Posts
April 05 2011 04:07 GMT
#13502
On April 05 2011 13:03 susySquark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 08:08 legaton wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:20 Bellygareth wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.


He played well against terrible players, fared OK and cheesed a lot against out-of-form good players (TLO) and lose in a convincing fashion (at least, he convinced me he was bad) against good players (Select, Kiwikaki).


Yeah he lost to Kiwi and SeleCT. But doesnt it make sense that the 4th place player, Incontrol, would lose to #2 and #3? (Kiwi, select)... lol


also, that "out of form" player, TLO knocked Idra out, and ended up 5th.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 04:15:04
April 05 2011 04:12 GMT
#13503
JP actually has a unique view on this compared to the other people on SotG, he worked for MLG during the WoW era and knows how many of the problems they had then (never starting even close to on time, lots of dead air, teams able to hear announcers and each other, low stream quality and network issues) have gone unfixed for what is now years. When you walk on the edge of disaster for long enough eventually you are going to fall off.
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
April 05 2011 04:17 GMT
#13504
Teams could hear announcers in WoW?

I don't recall any drama about that O_o
Like a G6
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
April 05 2011 04:23 GMT
#13505
On April 05 2011 13:17 kzn wrote:
Teams could hear announcers in WoW?

I don't recall any drama about that O_o

WoW is such a clusterfuck to follow from a spectators point of veiw it probably didn't matter as whatever the casters were saying probably had little bearing on how the game was actually going.
Hi
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 05 2011 04:32 GMT
#13506
Why is it every time anything of note happens people rush to this thread and demand SotG reflects their opinions back at them?
RykuX
Profile Joined March 2011
1200 Posts
April 05 2011 04:35 GMT
#13507
On April 05 2011 12:48 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 12:42 RykuX wrote:
just wondering.. who else hated how they explained each map and how the spawns worked etc? lol so annoying T_T


It's to help the new viewers, also explains how wheat is casting. You want more ppl to be interested in E-sports don't you?


I suppose you are right
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 05 2011 04:36 GMT
#13508
On April 05 2011 13:12 Duravi wrote:
JP actually has a unique view on this compared to the other people on SotG, he worked for MLG during the WoW era and knows how many of the problems they had then (never starting even close to on time, lots of dead air, teams able to hear announcers and each other, low stream quality and network issues) have gone unfixed for what is now years. When you walk on the edge of disaster for long enough eventually you are going to fall off.

And the same shit has been going on with Halo since the league inception in 04, and they still don't do anything. I'm hoping this latest catastrophe, worse than pretty much anything else that's happened to them, will get them to shape up.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 08:12:37
April 05 2011 08:11 GMT
#13509
if mlg can come out guns blazing at their next event, problem free, e-sports should get a massive bump over here.

Dallas was looking to be the biggest thing ever in NA and it was pretty big, but the problems were rough.

Even GSL was advertising MLG

edit: people should still support MLG and all tournaments, as if the tournaments are watched and supported then things can only get bigger.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
April 05 2011 08:18 GMT
#13510
On April 05 2011 13:03 susySquark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 08:08 legaton wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:20 Bellygareth wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.


He played well against terrible players, fared OK and cheesed a lot against out-of-form good players (TLO) and lose in a convincing fashion (at least, he convinced me he was bad) against good players (Select, Kiwikaki).


Yeah he lost to Kiwi and SeleCT. But doesnt it make sense that the 4th place player, Incontrol, would lose to #2 and #3? (Kiwi, select)... lol

WHAT DO YOU KNOW?!?!?! 4TH PLACE IS TERIBLE! HE CAN ONLY CHEESE BLABLA!!!!.

Sry, i agree with you :p. 4th place is a verygood spot . cheerded for him and idra to take it tho. The only thing i hate incontrol for is that he not played vs his temate EG.Machine. I love that match :D :p

Again sorry for the capslock but i just dont understand why people complain al the time about players doing well :s (or complaining @ everything for that matter xD). Geoff mayby all-ined more than he wanted to, but 1baseiwa didnt get his nick for nothing lol. But what should they care? there up there, and All-in, 4gate, cannonrush shit is all part of the game. If you like it or not ^^. And huk rushes and does cooky shit al the time and people do love him. I think there just jaloes @ Anna.

That said. When is anna gonna join MLG?
The Wolfpack - Metalband from the Netherlands
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
April 05 2011 08:53 GMT
#13511
On April 05 2011 13:32 The KY wrote:
Why is it every time anything of note happens people rush to this thread and demand SotG reflects their opinions back at them?


If you mean that why people are asking about it when it's obvious they will touch on it then I agree, it's silly. If you mean that why people are asking and why should they talk about then, seriously?

Whole show is about discussing about happenings in SC2 scene so the question would be, why wouldn't they talk about it.
Exactable
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia263 Posts
April 05 2011 08:58 GMT
#13512
InControl lost to the 2nd and 3rd places and beat the 5th place player twice. In your opinions where does that place him? 7th? 20th? No, 4th.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 05 2011 09:02 GMT
#13513
Incontrol could go 3-4 against MC and people would still bitch
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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
April 05 2011 09:09 GMT
#13514
I don't mind Incontrol, he did ok and win good players. Not sure it should be rewarded 4th place but he played the system MLG had and got 4th. Nothing wrong with that and congrats to him.

I just don't like the MLG system in general. Incontrol did ok but some players like Gretorp (which I think is a good player) didn't manage that well and went something like 1-8? I'm sorry if incorrect.
But just because he was seeded he got top16 and thus again going to be seeded. That means if he continues to do poorly but still kinda hanging out there, he will be placed high everytime.

It's too hard to fall down from a seed, so new players like naniwa has to do miracles to get higher place than some of the seeds.
Seeds are good but there is too big of a advantage to players who have played in previous MLG's.
DreamSailor
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada433 Posts
April 05 2011 09:15 GMT
#13515
Would love to hear from Day9 and JP about what it was like to cast filler for like 5 hours on Days 1 and 2.

It would also be interesting to hear about what they thought about the tournament itself, (while not going too in depth on the extended series)
Where ever you go, there you are.
EdeN1312
Profile Joined October 2010
2 Posts
April 05 2011 09:50 GMT
#13516
Would like to hear some more discussion about extended series. If the games were played without extended series TLO would have beaten InControl 2-0 when they met for the second time and Kiwikaki would have beaten Naniwa 2-1 when they met for the second time. TLO would have had a top 4 finish and Kiwikaki would have won the tournament. Wasn't Geoff against extended series?
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
April 05 2011 10:02 GMT
#13517
On April 05 2011 18:50 EdeN1312 wrote:
Would like to hear some more discussion about extended series. If the games were played without extended series TLO would have beaten InControl 2-0 when they met for the second time and Kiwikaki would have beaten Naniwa 2-1 when they met for the second time. TLO would have had a top 4 finish and Kiwikaki would have won the tournament. Wasn't Geoff against extended series?

Kiwi wouldn't have won he would have needed to win another BO3 to win
Hi
EdeN1312
Profile Joined October 2010
2 Posts
April 05 2011 11:07 GMT
#13518
On April 05 2011 19:02 pieman819 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 18:50 EdeN1312 wrote:
Would like to hear some more discussion about extended series. If the games were played without extended series TLO would have beaten InControl 2-0 when they met for the second time and Kiwikaki would have beaten Naniwa 2-1 when they met for the second time. TLO would have had a top 4 finish and Kiwikaki would have won the tournament. Wasn't Geoff against extended series?

Kiwi wouldn't have won he would have needed to win another BO3 to win


Forgot about the special rules for the final match. This is how things would have played out according to the MLG website if you don't take into account past match history (no extended series):

5. If the Players scheduled to play each other in the Finals have not yet played against each other in the Event, an initial Match must be played. If the Player who came from the Championship Bracket Winners Bracket wins the initial Match, they will win the Event. If the Player who came from the Championship Bracket Losers Bracket wins the initial Match, the Match will expand to a Best of 7, include the initial Match, and pick up where that Match left off.

Kiwikaki would have won the first match 2-1, so it would have been extended to a B07. Kiwikaki would have needed to win 2 games, and Naniwa would have needed to win 3 games.
joheinous
Profile Joined August 2010
Iceland522 Posts
April 05 2011 12:08 GMT
#13519
Nobody should fault inControl for getting fourth the way he did. He had no choice about how it went down but made the most of the opportunity presented to him and that was more then most of the pool play players. Same thing with his games against TLO. He used every advantage he had to get the win. The blame should not rest with him but TLO in that case. I think it's pretty ballsy to do "cheese" like that off a blind meta-game read and deciding to go through with it and executing it so well despite being broadcast on the main stage. He didn't give in to the pressure but followed through with a gutsy game plan where he put it all on the line and came out the victor. That's the trait of a winner and guess what, he's a winner.
Everything is self-evident
FIRETRUCK
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden78 Posts
April 05 2011 13:50 GMT
#13520
Holy shit I fucking hate time zones...

is 10:30 CDT = 17:30 in Sweden?

I'm looking at http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/cdt.html
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