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Perubi
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland15 Posts
April 05 2011 14:19 GMT
#13521
On April 05 2011 22:50 FIRETRUCK wrote:
Holy shit I fucking hate time zones...

is 10:30 CDT = 17:30 in Sweden?

I'm looking at http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/cdt.html


It's 10:30 p.m. CDT so it would be 05.30 tomorrow morning in Sweden.
Inky87
Profile Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
April 05 2011 14:25 GMT
#13522
On April 05 2011 18:02 Mailing wrote:
Incontrol could go 3-4 against MC and people would still bitch


It's only PvP. It's a coinflip. If MVP played him, he'd stomp him.

/trollface
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
April 05 2011 14:28 GMT
#13523
On April 05 2011 17:58 Exactable wrote:
InControl lost to the 2nd and 3rd places and beat the 5th place player twice. In your opinions where does that place him? 7th? 20th? No, 4th.

No, he beat the 5th place player once (extended series). If there were 2 best of threes, he would have lost the second one.

I agree that Incontrol deserved to be 4th place, there is always a little bit luck involved in the brackets, but Incontrol always performs better at offline events and beating TLO is not easy.
Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 14:32:25
April 05 2011 14:28 GMT
#13524
On April 05 2011 17:18 Skrelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 13:03 susySquark wrote:
On April 05 2011 08:08 legaton wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:20 Bellygareth wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.


He played well against terrible players, fared OK and cheesed a lot against out-of-form good players (TLO) and lose in a convincing fashion (at least, he convinced me he was bad) against good players (Select, Kiwikaki).


Yeah he lost to Kiwi and SeleCT. But doesnt it make sense that the 4th place player, Incontrol, would lose to #2 and #3? (Kiwi, select)... lol

WHAT DO YOU KNOW?!?!?! 4TH PLACE IS TERIBLE! HE CAN ONLY CHEESE BLABLA!!!!.

Sry, i agree with you :p. 4th place is a verygood spot . cheerded for him and idra to take it tho. The only thing i hate incontrol for is that he not played vs his temate EG.Machine. I love that match :D :p

Again sorry for the capslock but i just dont understand why people complain al the time about players doing well :s (or complaining @ everything for that matter xD). Geoff mayby all-ined more than he wanted to, but 1baseiwa didnt get his nick for nothing lol. But what should they care? there up there, and All-in, 4gate, cannonrush shit is all part of the game. If you like it or not ^^. And huk rushes and does cooky shit al the time and people do love him. I think there just jaloes @ Anna.

That said. When is anna gonna join MLG?


The problem with what people are saying is that its cheese itself, the first game wasn't cheese at all he build two voids and went from his base as timing push its the same thing as if a terran went with two tanks and some mm

the second game is Tlo's fault he didnt scout it for like 5 minutes or whatever of it being there so incontrol took advantage of tlo's bad scouting.

good job incontrol for getting fourth in a major tournament its an achievement perhaps not as large as you would like but it should shut up some trolls :D


Edit: Didn't select cheese a few people with bunkers? I forget. I love the players but cheese is part of the game guys if you can't defeat it good luck getting out of silver
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 05 2011 14:29 GMT
#13525
On April 05 2011 21:08 joheinous wrote:
Nobody should fault inControl for getting fourth the way he did. He had no choice about how it went down but made the most of the opportunity presented to him and that was more then most of the pool play players.

Agreed, win is a win. Reminds me of when Jinro met IdrA in code S and blocked his ramp for a win. What are they supposed to do, NOT use really strong strategies and attacks because they're poorly perceived as all-in or cheesy!?! Win however you can!

To quote a golf proverb: "There are no pictures on the score card"
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 05 2011 14:34 GMT
#13526
Yeah seriously, people need to stop this trend of blaming "extenuating circumstances" for wins and losses. Starcraft (2) is a competition. Players win and lose. In virtually every circumstance, each isolated game is the result of an intense battle of skill between 2 players, not, as Day9 put it, the result of "some Russian judge." The whole point of competition and sportsmanship is to take responsibility for one's own performance, not to foist it on other factors (that's what society at large is for.) When a player wins, it is he who wins, not his circumstances.

So stop making excuses people.

Disclaimer: Yeah I know deterministically no one should have agency and responsibility in any situation, but let's not go there.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 05 2011 14:59 GMT
#13527
On April 05 2011 13:35 RykuX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 12:48 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 12:42 RykuX wrote:
just wondering.. who else hated how they explained each map and how the spawns worked etc? lol so annoying T_T


It's to help the new viewers, also explains how wheat is casting. You want more ppl to be interested in E-sports don't you?


I suppose you are right


It gets a bit annoying after it gets repetitive, but the first times I saw, I thought they were amazing

It really helps for the new viewers to have an idea of what might happen, and why.

I really like that, and it only "costs" 15s or something, it's definitely something that helps a lot and doesn't do any real harm.

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
FIRETRUCK
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden78 Posts
April 05 2011 15:02 GMT
#13528
On April 05 2011 23:19 Perubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 22:50 FIRETRUCK wrote:
Holy shit I fucking hate time zones...

is 10:30 CDT = 17:30 in Sweden?

I'm looking at http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/cdt.html


It's 10:30 p.m. CDT so it would be 05.30 tomorrow morning in Sweden.


aww dang
( ' .') ('<_' )
Consolidate
Profile Joined February 2010
United States829 Posts
April 05 2011 18:57 GMT
#13529
I guess geoff will be wearing the pants in the brotoss relationship now.
Creature posessed the the spirit of inquiry and bloodlust - Adventure Time
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 05 2011 18:58 GMT
#13530
Hopefully you guys can get Greg? :D
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FIRETRUCK
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden78 Posts
April 05 2011 19:13 GMT
#13531
i want to hear tyler's opinion of mlg dallas 2011. I herd he was bummed out after getting knocked out
( ' .') ('<_' )
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 05 2011 19:20 GMT
#13532
On April 05 2011 22:50 FIRETRUCK wrote:
Holy shit I fucking hate time zones...

is 10:30 CDT = 17:30 in Sweden?

I'm looking at http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/cdt.html


Pro tip, gadgets in win7 is the shit with time zones!

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I am not young enough to know everything.
pyrestrike
Profile Joined October 2010
United States235 Posts
April 05 2011 19:29 GMT
#13533
Jiddra, you can also set your calendar to show mutliple time zones as well ^_^

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/101555-additional-clocks.html

Works with Vista and W7 Less gadgets equals more ram for everyone! lol
( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ )
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 05 2011 19:33 GMT
#13534
On April 06 2011 04:29 pyrestrike wrote:
Jiddra, you can also set your calendar to show mutliple time zones as well ^_^

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/101555-additional-clocks.html

Works with Vista and W7 Less gadgets equals more ram for everyone! lol


Even better, now I can have a completly empty desktop!
I am not young enough to know everything.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19196 Posts
April 05 2011 19:45 GMT
#13535
Guys, I'm seeing a serious flaw with something. (Wiki)State of the Game isn't being updated. It's not even been updated to have links to the VODs!

What's wrong? Someone get on that.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
April 05 2011 20:05 GMT
#13536
On April 06 2011 04:29 pyrestrike wrote:
Jiddra, you can also set your calendar to show mutliple time zones as well ^_^

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/101555-additional-clocks.html

Works with Vista and W7 Less gadgets equals more ram for everyone! lol

Whaaaaaaat? How did I not know?

Thank you! Goddamn, that's so useful.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 05 2011 20:09 GMT
#13537
Damn, how can you even catch this live while living in Europe.
5:30 am Xx
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
April 05 2011 20:10 GMT
#13538
On April 06 2011 05:09 Noocta wrote:
Damn, how can you even catch this live while living in Europe.
5:30 am Xx


Go to sleep now :D
Max2Air
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany92 Posts
April 05 2011 20:12 GMT
#13539
On April 06 2011 05:09 Noocta wrote:
Damn, how can you even catch this live while living in Europe.
5:30 am Xx


Easy man, just have a fucked up sleep scedule and not be able to fall asleep before 7:00 am anyways... new semester just started so I finally got my scedule back on track
If you are reading this you are awesome.
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
April 05 2011 20:19 GMT
#13540
This has been said many times but I'll repeat it: If you set your timezone in your TL settings you will see your local time in the OP.
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
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