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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 04 2011 21:13 GMT
#13421
On April 05 2011 06:11 zYwi3c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 06:01 Tschis wrote:
On April 05 2011 05:54 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah, I don't approve of BM but I think the SC definition is taking it too far. IdrA doesn't gg and people start raging and calling him out over the internet- it's 2 characters, says good game, and is now used so often that it's become meaningless. With the interview after Huk, all he said was that Huk couldn't beat him in a straight up game- that's not the name calling that other people in the thread have mentioned, and again it's a completely valid opinion of Idra's- maybe he doesn't think that Huk can beat him straight up. Saying that that is BM is essentially saying that players aren't allowed to have opinions about other players unless that opinion is "He's good" or "I think I can beat him but he's a decent player". It's not only boring, it also seems incredibly restrictive. I don't think that players should be cursing out other players, but there's nothing wrong with one player saying that he's better than the rest, or saying that other players aren't as good as he/she is.


+ Show Spoiler +

IdrA actually called HuK retarded in another interview (one that wasn't made by the MLG team)


//tx


Idra called Huks play style retarted, not him as a person.


No, watch the vid.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Humility
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom19 Posts
April 04 2011 21:14 GMT
#13422
Oh man. That Incontrol Video was priceless. You gotta love geoff. =)
Lack of Success is not failure. Failing to learn from it is.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 04 2011 21:14 GMT
#13423
So whats the chance we can get any of these people: http://www.ign.com/ipl/about

from the IPL on an upcoming episode?

also, sorry to derail this thread from the current discussion of who bm'd who. etc. ZZZ
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 04 2011 21:16 GMT
#13424
On April 05 2011 06:13 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 06:11 zYwi3c wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:01 Tschis wrote:
On April 05 2011 05:54 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah, I don't approve of BM but I think the SC definition is taking it too far. IdrA doesn't gg and people start raging and calling him out over the internet- it's 2 characters, says good game, and is now used so often that it's become meaningless. With the interview after Huk, all he said was that Huk couldn't beat him in a straight up game- that's not the name calling that other people in the thread have mentioned, and again it's a completely valid opinion of Idra's- maybe he doesn't think that Huk can beat him straight up. Saying that that is BM is essentially saying that players aren't allowed to have opinions about other players unless that opinion is "He's good" or "I think I can beat him but he's a decent player". It's not only boring, it also seems incredibly restrictive. I don't think that players should be cursing out other players, but there's nothing wrong with one player saying that he's better than the rest, or saying that other players aren't as good as he/she is.


+ Show Spoiler +

IdrA actually called HuK retarded in another interview (one that wasn't made by the MLG team)


//tx


Idra called Huks play style retarted, not him as a person.


No, watch the vid.

I hadn't seen the vid, but I still don't think it's that bad. I use it casually all the time (even though I shouldn't), and I think Idra was using this in the same manner. Not unexcusable by any means, but I think a lot of the people here are overreacting.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 21:19:30
April 04 2011 21:18 GMT
#13425
When I was a kid...

Hah! Very well made video. Especially loved Select. xD
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
April 04 2011 21:45 GMT
#13426
No Weapon of State of the Live on Three (or whatever)?
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 04 2011 21:50 GMT
#13427
On April 05 2011 06:11 zYwi3c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 06:01 Tschis wrote:
On April 05 2011 05:54 DystopiaX wrote:
Yeah, I don't approve of BM but I think the SC definition is taking it too far. IdrA doesn't gg and people start raging and calling him out over the internet- it's 2 characters, says good game, and is now used so often that it's become meaningless. With the interview after Huk, all he said was that Huk couldn't beat him in a straight up game- that's not the name calling that other people in the thread have mentioned, and again it's a completely valid opinion of Idra's- maybe he doesn't think that Huk can beat him straight up. Saying that that is BM is essentially saying that players aren't allowed to have opinions about other players unless that opinion is "He's good" or "I think I can beat him but he's a decent player". It's not only boring, it also seems incredibly restrictive. I don't think that players should be cursing out other players, but there's nothing wrong with one player saying that he's better than the rest, or saying that other players aren't as good as he/she is.


+ Show Spoiler +

IdrA actually called HuK retarded in another interview (one that wasn't made by the MLG team)


//tx


Idra called Huks play style retarted, not him as a person.


The sound wasn't pretty good, so I can't really "affirm" anything, but I really heard "he wouldn't win at all if he wasn't protoss, he is actually kinda(that?) retarded"

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
xwindor
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada8 Posts
April 04 2011 21:56 GMT
#13428
I came here hoping to read stuff about the show... Instead this lame conversation..
IM LIKE A BIRD
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 04 2011 21:57 GMT
#13429
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 21:58:28
April 04 2011 21:57 GMT
#13430
There desperately needs to be a zerg "pillar"
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 04 2011 21:58 GMT
#13431
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Well the 4th part...there are 16 seeds. That part is justified. The weird record thing affecting seeding is messed up though. I think the problem isn't with the pool play but rather how they assign points.
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
April 04 2011 22:05 GMT
#13432
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.
Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
April 04 2011 22:20 GMT
#13433
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
April 04 2011 22:35 GMT
#13434
On April 05 2011 07:20 Bellygareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.

I don't disagree.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 23:07:50
April 04 2011 23:05 GMT
#13435
I was sad watching Select stomp all over Incontrol twice. And then watching Kiwikaki stomp all over Incontrol twice. Incontrol is a better player than what the stream showed.
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
April 04 2011 23:08 GMT
#13436
Yeah it's not iNcontrols fault that the setup they have favours the seeds so much. He still had to beat some quality players, beating TLO 4-2 with extended series isn't something to sneeze at.
Hi
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
April 04 2011 23:08 GMT
#13437
On April 05 2011 07:20 Bellygareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.


He played well against terrible players, fared OK and cheesed a lot against out-of-form good players (TLO) and lose in a convincing fashion (at least, he convinced me he was bad) against good players (Select, Kiwikaki).
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
April 04 2011 23:13 GMT
#13438
On April 05 2011 08:05 KevinIX wrote:
I was sad watching Select stomp all over Incontrol twice. And then watching Kiwikaki stomp all over Incontrol twice. Incontrol is a better player than what the stream showed.

That second game against SeleCT he should hve pulled back after the first bust attempt, he did some damage for not much loss but ended up throwing away a good number of units when stim + medivacs came out together which left him with not enough stuff to gaurd his front and drops at the same time. Hindsight is always 20/20 though
Hi
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 04 2011 23:31 GMT
#13439
On April 05 2011 08:08 legaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 07:20 Bellygareth wrote:
On April 05 2011 07:05 TealLurker wrote:
On April 05 2011 06:57 nvs. wrote:
I loves me some iNcontroL but how can you go 8-6, get placed 4th in a major tournament, and get guaranteed seeding for the rest of the year?

What a lucky guy.

Ever the opportunist. He did say in SotG that he did avoid a lot of the heavy hitters in the pools. If the original top 16 from last season all came back, he would've had to wade through the open bracket. I seriously doubt he would've gotten 4th from there. Nothing against him because he played according to the MLG system. But I hate MLG's system.


He played well when it mattered, it all comes down to this.


He played well against terrible players, fared OK and cheesed a lot against out-of-form good players (TLO) and lose in a convincing fashion (at least, he convinced me he was bad) against good players (Select, Kiwikaki).


No players at MLG were "terrible", especially since Incontrol didn't even play in the open bracket where you could argue that some of the marginally less skilled players were.

Incontrol is a decent player and did very very well, you can't take it away from him because of how the pools and brackets played out.

MLG's system is really bad for some of the great players that have to start in the open bracket, but it doesn't favor Top 16 too much because whoever they get to play will be really good anyway.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
April 04 2011 23:35 GMT
#13440
incontrol played the bracket well, that's part of winning tournaments too
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