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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 04 2011 12:53 GMT
#13321
Having Nani on the show would be pretty amazing.

I also don't really want to hear a dragged out criticism of MLG, but at the same time I feel that it needs to be addressed and it needs to be stressed out just how bad it was and how important it is that it doesn't happen again - even if it's only a 5 minute segment dedicated to that.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
April 04 2011 12:56 GMT
#13322
On April 04 2011 21:52 Adila wrote:
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On April 04 2011 21:14 MrSexington wrote:
On April 04 2011 20:39 The KY wrote:
It's kind of weird how people are like 'We need a state of the game so they can talk for ages about how horrible MLG is and spit on it and curse it's name and we can all agree'.


I wasn't at the event and they all have pretty unique perspectives from the event itself. I don't think it's unreasonable for a Starcraft 2 podcast to talk about a Starcraft 2 event that they attended. They'll be talking from a unique perspective not known to the majority of their listeners. If this doesn't fall directly under the category of exactly what they should be talking about... what is your alternative topic that you'd like to hear them cover?

You're preemptively complaining about their podcast content and not suggesting alternative topics.




What you are suggesting is completely different from what some other posters want. I definitely want to hear about the side-stories and how the ACTUAL event was.

What we don't need is 2 hours of ranting about how terrible the stream was and how MLG failed or whatever.

I do hope for some good game analysis and stories though.


That's fair enough.

I just... I don't think they've ever done that in the past. Maybe other people are calling for that now, but I don't think I remember them ever just echoing existing complaints for hours. I think we have little to worry about when it comes to that stuff.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
April 04 2011 12:59 GMT
#13323
On April 04 2011 21:53 Talin wrote:
Having Nani on the show would be pretty amazing.

I also don't really want to hear a dragged out criticism of MLG, but at the same time I feel that it needs to be addressed and it needs to be stressed out just how bad it was and how important it is that it doesn't happen again - even if it's only a 5 minute segment dedicated to that.



i realy doubt that it would be amazing, as we saw he doesnt realy like to talk..
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 04 2011 13:01 GMT
#13324
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unoriginalname
Profile Joined November 2010
England380 Posts
April 04 2011 13:03 GMT
#13325
On April 04 2011 21:59 whiteLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 21:53 Talin wrote:
Having Nani on the show would be pretty amazing.

I also don't really want to hear a dragged out criticism of MLG, but at the same time I feel that it needs to be addressed and it needs to be stressed out just how bad it was and how important it is that it doesn't happen again - even if it's only a 5 minute segment dedicated to that.



i realy doubt that it would be amazing, as we saw he doesnt realy like to talk..


We know nothing, but speaking in front of a crowd of hundreds in a non-vernacular language would be task for a lot of people.

I'd like to have somebody who wasn't at the event for a balanced discussion regarding the streaming atrocity. Since JP is employed by them, Day[9] was casting it and iNcontroL and Tyler were too busy playing in it, I doubt they will have much to say about the streaming, although iNcontroL will almost certainly talk about the drops from his games.
Hmmm
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
April 04 2011 13:12 GMT
#13326
On April 04 2011 22:03 unoriginalname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 21:59 whiteLotus wrote:
On April 04 2011 21:53 Talin wrote:
Having Nani on the show would be pretty amazing.

I also don't really want to hear a dragged out criticism of MLG, but at the same time I feel that it needs to be addressed and it needs to be stressed out just how bad it was and how important it is that it doesn't happen again - even if it's only a 5 minute segment dedicated to that.



i realy doubt that it would be amazing, as we saw he doesnt realy like to talk..


We know nothing, but speaking in front of a crowd of hundreds in a non-vernacular language would be task for a lot of people.

I'd like to have somebody who wasn't at the event for a balanced discussion regarding the streaming atrocity. Since JP is employed by them, Day[9] was casting it and iNcontroL and Tyler were too busy playing in it, I doubt they will have much to say about the streaming, although iNcontroL will almost certainly talk about the drops from his games.


I don't think someone talking about the stream would be very interesting. It lagged, crashed, went offline for hours, not a very broad topic. Maybe if they somehow got someone on who was involved with the stream they could explain why it failed so badly, that would be worth a segment.
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
April 04 2011 13:17 GMT
#13327
I'm sure the casters were frustrated by the amount of time they spent with nothing to cast, I'm sure the players were frustrated with the lag and the drops. And I'm sure they'll say that. Thing is, MLG know they screwed up and they know they lost money - directly by giving out free HD passes for future events and indirectly by disappointing potential customers. I don't want a huge amount of time dedicated to providing angry forumgoers with an echo chamber.

I listen to SotG for perspective from pro players that I don't have. I want to hear about competing in the event, I want to hear analysis of players, especially ones that we didn't get to see, I want to hear about gameplay trends. I'd much rather hear interesting commentary than spend time pumping my fist in the air, shouting "YEAH I AGREE IT TOTALLY SUCKED"
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
April 04 2011 13:22 GMT
#13328
On April 04 2011 21:59 whiteLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 21:53 Talin wrote:
Having Nani on the show would be pretty amazing.

I also don't really want to hear a dragged out criticism of MLG, but at the same time I feel that it needs to be addressed and it needs to be stressed out just how bad it was and how important it is that it doesn't happen again - even if it's only a 5 minute segment dedicated to that.



i realy doubt that it would be amazing, as we saw he doesnt realy like to talk..


he has volunteered to cast a few games in a tournament a while back so I don't think talking or English is a problem.
Sanjuro
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia252 Posts
April 04 2011 13:58 GMT
#13329
im sure Naniwa was tired + frustrated with the problems (his mouse wasnt working, they had to change Pc's four times to get it to work or something. At his interview after the Select match he was like prepared to run off the stage (JP was closing his interview and Naniwa was akwardly moving pass him)
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he went 26-2 and only losing 2 matches in the finals the stress that build up must have been intense even if he was winning


im the Villain of the Story, im not meant to be saved
Fates
Profile Joined June 2010
United States91 Posts
April 04 2011 14:07 GMT
#13330
On April 04 2011 22:58 Sanjuro wrote:
im sure Naniwa was tired + frustrated with the problems (his mouse wasnt working, they had to change Pc's four times to get it to work or something. At his interview after the Select match he was like prepared to run off the stage (JP was closing his interview and Naniwa was akwardly moving pass him)
+ Show Spoiler +
he went 26-2 and only losing 2 matches in the finals the stress that build up must have been intense even if he was winning




Naniwa did that with every interview. There were like 3 interviews, and everytime after the hold said their congrats, Nani slipped away awkwardly. Funniest was with Faruq(sp?).

Even his NASL video was weird to watch.

But good thing being good at interviews has nothing to do with skill. Naniwa is a beast.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 04 2011 14:10 GMT
#13331
I don't want stream talk, if mlg is to be believed it's the venues fault, so shouldn't happen again. I think this is likely cause despite all the shit that's happened in the past the stream had been stable even if the production was terrible. If they want to talk about how to improve that I'd be ok with it, but otherwise I just want them to talk about the actual event and the games.
Goonch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5 Posts
April 04 2011 16:24 GMT
#13332
Although there were huge problems with the internet and streaming, I would rather the show stay on the topic of games. I tend to zone out when the show talks about logistics and the like. The problems were obvious and little more can be said. I think the most interesting thing is Naniwa's dominance. He showed that it is possible to be a consistent winner in starcraft 2.
"If you know the way broadly, you will see it in everything." -Miyamoto Musashi
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
April 04 2011 16:30 GMT
#13333
The fact of the matter is, like it or not, the stream issues largely overshadowed the entire event. Yeah that last day we actually got to watch some games and it was awesome and Naniwa owned it up and I hope a large part of the convo is gameplay related but you can't expect them to just brush over the 5 ton elephant in the room. If you talk MLG, I don't see how you can NOT talk MLG stream problems.

Also @DystopiaX, I know for sure at least one event last year had really horrible tech problems that caused the same sort of issues we experienced this past weekend such as major delays and stream instability.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
April 04 2011 16:52 GMT
#13334
Are we really complaining about things that SOTG haven't even done yet?

They will address it. There's no way they won't. I'd actually like to hear the perspective of the casters as well as how the stream problems affected the live audience and tournament. I don't know how it looked at the event because I wasn't there.

This MLG was a disaster. Not talking about what went wrong is like removing the loss total from battlenet.

formthehead
Profile Joined June 2010
United States81 Posts
April 04 2011 16:57 GMT
#13335
On April 05 2011 01:52 cronican wrote:
Are we really complaining about things that SOTG haven't even done yet?



This thread already covered every other form of complaining. We have to go deeper.
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
April 04 2011 17:04 GMT
#13336
I love that Nani won and all but it would suck if they brought in another Protoss. The last bunch of SotGs have been constant Protoss whine and like the completely ignore anything Terran and slightly touch on Zerg things.

Like SlayerS_MMA in the GSTL, he's like a Terran hope and possibly the next Jaedong of SC2 and the only person who said anything was JP trying to give him attention and everyone else ignored it.

And considering the finals was PvP and all they've been talking about for ages is about how PvP sucks and yadda yadda I really don't think it'd be interesting to keep on the PvP subject.

PvP is the ZvZ of SC2, and it's not going change unless warp-in changes to give more defenders advantage. Get over it lol Zergs in BW had to deal with the fact that they could only make lings and Mutas and every ZvZ ended in 10 minutes. It sucks but "That's Starcraft! (^_^);"
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Jacuzzi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States528 Posts
April 04 2011 17:04 GMT
#13337
Check out what I got the cast of SotG (+Anna) to sign at MLG Dallas:

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[image loading]


I already said it on twitter but thank you guys sooooo much for putting up with one annoying fan long enough to give me something I've been wanting ever since they announced MLG Dallas this year! :D
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 17:09:35
April 04 2011 17:06 GMT
#13338
On April 04 2011 21:53 Talin wrote:
Having Nani on the show would be pretty amazing.

I also don't really want to hear a dragged out criticism of MLG, but at the same time I feel that it needs to be addressed and it needs to be stressed out just how bad it was and how important it is that it doesn't happen again - even if it's only a 5 minute segment dedicated to that.

I don't think the SotG guys really can talk about all of it since they were all there and half of them were still working. Of course it sucks their games got postponed for an hour or two and they had to buy time, but this was the worst gaming weekend I can remember since CyberXGames and it's a shame cause I planned my weekend around it.

All they can really talk about is battle.net going down, but the problems were much more expansive than that. At the end of the day, everyone involved wasted a large part of their weekend but at least everyone on SotG got paid.
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zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
April 04 2011 17:08 GMT
#13339
On April 04 2011 22:58 Sanjuro wrote:
im sure Naniwa was tired + frustrated with the problems (his mouse wasnt working, they had to change Pc's four times to get it to work or something. At his interview after the Select match he was like prepared to run off the stage (JP was closing his interview and Naniwa was akwardly moving pass him)
+ Show Spoiler +
he went 26-2 and only losing 2 matches in the finals the stress that build up must have been intense even if he was winning




he's a good player, but he's super awkward in front of the camera, no way around that one
TYBG
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
April 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#13340

I get bored very quickly by their "how MLG failed talks" and how it will improve. Also why Blizzard didn't implement Lan talks.... so I hope they address it and move on. Its not entertaining to say what even idiots already know. I'd rather hear Tyler talk about protoss strategy and game analysis, he puts the rest of the SC2 universe to shame with the detail and accuracy of his insights.
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