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shimpoe
Profile Joined May 2010
88 Posts
April 04 2011 11:25 GMT
#13301
What do people really want them to say? A 2 hour rant about everything that went wrong during MLG? I'm fairly sure the MLG crew knows things didn't go perfectly, considering they were making public statements about their mistakes. Most people who care to know are already aware that MLG didn't go smoothly. I'd prefer the next State of the Game show be about something more interesting, like what we couldn't see or experience without being there. More of a focus on the tournament or event would be great, considering many of us who relied on the stream weren't able to see very much of it.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 04 2011 11:30 GMT
#13302
On April 04 2011 20:25 shimpoe wrote:
What do people really want them to say? A 2 hour rant about everything that went wrong during MLG? I'm fairly sure the MLG crew knows things didn't go perfectly, considering they were making public statements about their mistakes. Most people who care to know are already aware that MLG didn't go smoothly. I'd prefer the next State of the Game show be about something more interesting, like what we couldn't see or experience without being there. More of a focus on the tournament or event would be great, considering many of us who relied on the stream weren't able to see very much of it.


Yep, plus none of them really had the viewer experience to know what really happened for us, so they can't really talk about it from that point of view. I'd prefer to know how the tournament went for them, because I already know how it went for me (from a stream viewer point of view).
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
April 04 2011 11:31 GMT
#13303
Ppl should take easy with their hate. Im sure, they tried to fix the problems, and im sure they didn't had fun times during the weekend. Instead of spitting them itno their faces, try to be constructive.
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
April 04 2011 11:32 GMT
#13304
Uhoh, page 666. It's a sign.
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
April 04 2011 11:34 GMT
#13305
Congrats Geoff on taking 4th place at MLG!!
I have a beard. I'm unprofessional.
anTi_
Profile Joined October 2008
United States499 Posts
April 04 2011 11:35 GMT
#13306
On April 04 2011 20:12 Pekkz wrote:
then doing fail dt rush, allthough cant really blame him for that one. Either kiwi heard some crowd cheer or he blind countered to the perfect timing.


I really want to hear their perspective on the sound proofing. I'm not sure if NonY used other headphones but the sennheiser HD595's he always sports on SOTG are open ear headphones. When I used to wear these I could have music blasting in them and still hear the doorbell or telephone, even if they were up at a healthy volume.

I'm not trying to take anything away from kiwi about possibly hearing the crowd, he's a phenomenal player, but a crowd scream that loud must make him think something is up and something nontraditional pvp is coming.
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Zingerac
Profile Joined July 2010
United States138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 11:37:36
April 04 2011 11:37 GMT
#13307
On April 04 2011 20:35 anTi_ wrote:
I really want to hear their perspective on the sound proofing. I'm not sure if NonY used other headphones but the sennheiser HD595's he always sports on SOTG are open ear headphones. When I used to wear these I could have music blasting in them and still hear the doorbell or telephone, even if they were up at a healthy volume.

I'm not trying to take anything away from kiwi about possibly hearing the crowd, he's a phenomenal player, but a crowd scream that loud must make him think something is up and something nontraditional pvp is coming.

They turned off the commentators during the match, on the main stage, after the first day.
So basically the difference between me and deezer is that I don't need to look at his stream to know what hes doing- Liquid'Ret
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 04 2011 11:39 GMT
#13308
It's kind of weird how people are like 'We need a state of the game so they can talk for ages about how horrible MLG is and spit on it and curse it's name and we can all agree'.

They were at the event, which was by all accounts pretty fun. When they talk about it, they're probably going to go 'Well obviously MLG had it's share of problems, lag was a pain in the ass and I hear they had a lot of problems with the stream. And if they want to continue being successful, they need to fix that. They absolutely do. But the thing about such a large, multiple location LAN is that their are going to be issues like this-'

etc etc

Then they are going to move on.

Which is a good thing. I don't want to hear about how I couldn't watch for the first two days; I already know.
Fearlezz
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia176 Posts
April 04 2011 11:41 GMT
#13309
If this was any other tournament the SotG would tear it an new one. This way I don't really know what's gonna happen, but I can see a situation where I lose all my respect for the SotG crew if they fail to hammer down on stream quality, stream downtime, lack of alternate games to jump in, players downtime, lack of soundproofing (check idra interview), only way to follow the games and brackets being twitter, laughable winner ceremony and so on. There's just so much fail to talk about and if everybody is gonna be too diplomatic and not say how they really feel about it like they do every other time I must say i will be extremely disappointed. Don't let us down SotG!
kmh
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland351 Posts
April 04 2011 12:01 GMT
#13310
I would love to throw an MLG viewing party. I'd love nothing more than to get friends together and make a night of watching some cool games happen at a cool tournament.

Thing is, I can't. It would be an absolute disaster unless you made a point of making stream failures into a drinking game.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2011 12:03 GMT
#13311
I'm going to disagree with everyone in here.

I know the stream was terrible.. and while I got pretty mad at MLG for the shitty content, I don't want to listen to other people rage about it for 2 hours.

I want to hear about the games, the stories, the players, the teams and the drama. I want to hear analysis of what makes naniwa so fucking good, how select has changed his style around, the failure of some notable players to make it far.

I don't want to hear "mlg is bad" because I ALREADY KNOW.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10825 Posts
April 04 2011 12:08 GMT
#13312
On April 04 2011 20:39 The KY wrote:
It's kind of weird how people are like 'We need a state of the game so they can talk for ages about how horrible MLG is and spit on it and curse it's name and we can all agree'.


Yeah, it's almost like them talking about GSL and stuff which also most of the viewers will have experienced...

On April 04 2011 20:39 The KY wrote:
They were at the event, which was by all accounts pretty fun. When they talk about it, they're probably going to go 'Well obviously MLG had it's share of problems, lag was a pain in the ass and I hear they had a lot of problems with the stream. And if they want to continue being successful, they need to fix that. They absolutely do. But the thing about such a large, multiple location LAN is that their are going to be issues like this-'
etc etc


Other Tournaments get flamed for having single elimination first rounds or other, in comparison, "minor" issues. MLG fails at basically everything except that and it should just be mentioned whiteout going into it?... WTF?


On April 04 2011 20:39 The KY wrote:
Then they are going to move on.

Which is a good thing. I don't want to hear about how I couldn't watch for the first two days; I already know.


2/4 of them are insiders (2 players, 2 commentators and no idea what JP is doing aside from that), they probably know more than we and it would be interesting to hear their take on it.
The Stream-Downtime is one thing (not good, but shit happens and it should never have happened to that extentt), not showing a ton of very interesting and important games is a whole other story which was a choice the MLG made for some reason no one except themselves will ever understand...

The tournament format is also still a bit of a topic (just compare the amount of games the diffrent players had to play depending on their seed/group).
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 12:10:59
April 04 2011 12:09 GMT
#13313
On April 04 2011 20:41 Fearlezz wrote:
If this was any other tournament the SotG would tear it an new one. This way I don't really know what's gonna happen, but I can see a situation where I lose all my respect for the SotG crew if they fail to hammer down on stream quality, stream downtime, lack of alternate games to jump in, players downtime, lack of soundproofing (check idra interview), only way to follow the games and brackets being twitter, laughable winner ceremony and so on. There's just so much fail to talk about and if everybody is gonna be too diplomatic and not say how they really feel about it like they do every other time I must say i will be extremely disappointed. Don't let us down SotG!


You know that they didn't watch the stream and could follow all games by standing behind the players? After the first day you also couldn't hear the commentators on the main stage, so why should they criticize something which was already fixed?

They will talk about the event from a player's perspective.

On April 04 2011 21:03 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to disagree with everyone in here.

I know the stream was terrible.. and while I got pretty mad at MLG for the shitty content, I don't want to listen to other people rage about it for 2 hours.

I want to hear about the games, the stories, the players, the teams and the drama. I want to hear analysis of what makes naniwa so fucking good, how select has changed his style around, the failure of some notable players to make it far.

I don't want to hear "mlg is bad" because I ALREADY KNOW.


I agree.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 12:19:12
April 04 2011 12:14 GMT
#13314
On April 04 2011 20:39 The KY wrote:
It's kind of weird how people are like 'We need a state of the game so they can talk for ages about how horrible MLG is and spit on it and curse it's name and we can all agree'.


I wasn't at the event and they all have pretty unique perspectives from the event itself. I don't think it's unreasonable for a Starcraft 2 podcast to talk about a Starcraft 2 event that they attended. They'll be talking from a unique perspective not known to the majority of their listeners. If this doesn't fall directly under the category of exactly what they should be talking about... what is your alternative topic that you'd like to hear them cover?

You're preemptively complaining about their podcast content and not suggesting alternative topics.


Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 12:18:10
April 04 2011 12:17 GMT
#13315
On April 04 2011 21:09 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 20:41 Fearlezz wrote:
If this was any other tournament the SotG would tear it an new one. This way I don't really know what's gonna happen, but I can see a situation where I lose all my respect for the SotG crew if they fail to hammer down on stream quality, stream downtime, lack of alternate games to jump in, players downtime, lack of soundproofing (check idra interview), only way to follow the games and brackets being twitter, laughable winner ceremony and so on. There's just so much fail to talk about and if everybody is gonna be too diplomatic and not say how they really feel about it like they do every other time I must say i will be extremely disappointed. Don't let us down SotG!


You know that they didn't watch the stream and could follow all games by standing behind the players? After the first day you also couldn't hear the commentators on the main stage, so why should they criticize something which was already fixed?

They will talk about the event from a player's perspective.

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 21:03 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to disagree with everyone in here.

I know the stream was terrible.. and while I got pretty mad at MLG for the shitty content, I don't want to listen to other people rage about it for 2 hours.

I want to hear about the games, the stories, the players, the teams and the drama. I want to hear analysis of what makes naniwa so fucking good, how select has changed his style around, the failure of some notable players to make it far.

I don't want to hear "mlg is bad" because I ALREADY KNOW.


I agree.

Good writeup, i agree with you to agree with him
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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
April 04 2011 12:25 GMT
#13316
On April 04 2011 21:03 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to disagree with everyone in here.

I know the stream was terrible.. and while I got pretty mad at MLG for the shitty content, I don't want to listen to other people rage about it for 2 hours.

I want to hear about the games, the stories, the players, the teams and the drama. I want to hear analysis of what makes naniwa so fucking good, how select has changed his style around, the failure of some notable players to make it far.

I don't want to hear "mlg is bad" because I ALREADY KNOW.

This!

I want to hear stories that we couldn't see:

-What went wrong for Tyler?
-The mood of Incontrol since he reached a great 4th place (gratulation!) but misses his chance for his first title (don't wanna take anything from him but he said it's his goal and he missed it)
-The story of Naniwa (did they talk to him)
-What did you do when you were not playing? Meeting/Talking to other players? Maybe meeting someone interesting for the first time? How was the atmosphere between all players?
-How was the atmosphere in general/fan reactions?
-Which other players impressed you or was surprisingly bad?

There are so much more interesting things than the system of MLG sucks or the technical problems were bad.

Hope for a great next show and I think it will be...like always! HF

(Maybe you can get TLO on the show since his series vs. Incontrol was (maybe) one of the best and we couldn't see it.)
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MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
April 04 2011 12:42 GMT
#13317
Have Naniwa on the show please sotg is lacking more brotoss. Going 26-2 is pretty good score even for ladder but going it an a lan in sc2 is incredible.
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heladocasero
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia87 Posts
April 04 2011 12:47 GMT
#13318
I'd love to hear the stories of what went down on Sunday night
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
April 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#13319
On April 04 2011 21:14 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 20:39 The KY wrote:
It's kind of weird how people are like 'We need a state of the game so they can talk for ages about how horrible MLG is and spit on it and curse it's name and we can all agree'.


I wasn't at the event and they all have pretty unique perspectives from the event itself. I don't think it's unreasonable for a Starcraft 2 podcast to talk about a Starcraft 2 event that they attended. They'll be talking from a unique perspective not known to the majority of their listeners. If this doesn't fall directly under the category of exactly what they should be talking about... what is your alternative topic that you'd like to hear them cover?

You're preemptively complaining about their podcast content and not suggesting alternative topics.




What you are suggesting is completely different from what some other posters want. I definitely want to hear about the side-stories and how the ACTUAL event was.

What we don't need is 2 hours of ranting about how terrible the stream was and how MLG failed or whatever.

I do hope for some good game analysis and stories though.
Woshie
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 12:55:17
April 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#13320
On April 04 2011 21:03 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to disagree with everyone in here.

I know the stream was terrible.. and while I got pretty mad at MLG for the shitty content, I don't want to listen to other people rage about it for 2 hours.

I want to hear about the games, the stories, the players, the teams and the drama. I want to hear analysis of what makes naniwa so fucking good, how select has changed his style around, the failure of some notable players to make it far.

I don't want to hear "mlg is bad" because I ALREADY KNOW.


100% agree with this. Touch on the issues players had and so on. But then move on to other things MLG did alot wrong. But there is more to this event than just that.

With extended series I wonder if the people asking and trying to talk about it have gone back through this thread and watched the older SOTGs. The issue was discussed to death and infact was baned from the show if I recall correctly. Nothing in this MLG brought any new information on extended series or demonstated anything that we didn't know would happen. Like it or loath it. It is how MLG is played at the moment.
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