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DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
February 16 2011 15:35 GMT
#10041
Just in!! Next weeks guest will be TotalBiscuit.....would be interesting
darthcaesar
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States475 Posts
February 16 2011 15:37 GMT
#10042
I think the SotG crew had some misinformation and shared it as if it were true. It's pretty obvious when iNcontroL is trolling, and this didn't appear to be the case.

I fully support TotalBiscuit's being angry with this, and I think that SotG should clarify the situation for those who only listen and don't read this thread.

We need a clarification, apology for misinformation, and a cessation of the rage ><
He is wisest who knows he does not know. | (┛OДO)┛彡┻━┻
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
February 16 2011 15:40 GMT
#10043
I know how to make this go away! Crickey! I'll just make as big of a deal about it as possible and that will cause the situation to abate naturally on its own!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 16 2011 15:41 GMT
#10044
On February 17 2011 00:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:27 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Obviously you were not "crystal clear." want proof? This thread, and everyone else's.
But once again, "AND EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY UNRELATED, HOW DID YOU NOT SEE IT TURNING OUT LIKE THIS AND CAUSING THIS SORT OF PROBLEM."THIS IS SHOUTCRAFT


You cannot account for, when making statements, that someone of prominence is going to simply tell lies about you and start drama.

I was indeed crystal clear, people decided to lie. Could I have prevented that? No. Can I clear up their lies now? Yeah. Should I? Fuck yeah, you serious? Don't give me that 'oh he's just trolling' bullshit. It wouldn't fly in any other medium, it doesn't fly here.

Show nested quote +
I recall them stating a number of times that they were unsure of exactly what happened and were merely repeating what they heard. I don't know where you are getting the impression that they were purposefully going out of their way to discredit you.


"He is the whiniest guy I know"

"He is quitting casting SC2"

Gee I cannot imagine where that impression came from! Must be just me being overly defensive.

Just so I can confirm this.

You are honestly claiming that they were purposefully making up lies about you? You don't believe that they were simply misinformed and repeating what they had heard?

If that is the case then I really don't know what to say.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 15:42:32
February 16 2011 15:41 GMT
#10045
On February 17 2011 00:40 Dental Floss wrote:
I know how to make this go away! Crickey! I'll just make as big of a deal about it as possible and that will cause the situation to abate naturally on its own!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect


Who said I wanted it to go away? It's in my best interests for it not to until the matter is set straight.

Just so I can confirm this.

You are honestly claiming that they were purposefully making up lies about you? You don't believe that they were simply misinformed and repeating what they had heard?

If that is the case then I really don't know what to say.


One indicates malice. The other indicates unprofessionalism. Both are pretty bad. Which is it?
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
February 16 2011 15:43 GMT
#10046
On February 17 2011 00:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:27 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Obviously you were not "crystal clear." want proof? This thread, and everyone else's.
But once again, "AND EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY UNRELATED, HOW DID YOU NOT SEE IT TURNING OUT LIKE THIS AND CAUSING THIS SORT OF PROBLEM."THIS IS SHOUTCRAFT


You cannot account for, when making statements, that someone of prominence is going to simply tell lies about you and start drama.

I was indeed crystal clear, people decided to lie. Could I have prevented that? No. Can I clear up their lies now? Yeah. Should I? Fuck yeah, you serious? Don't give me that 'oh he's just trolling' bullshit. It wouldn't fly in any other medium, it doesn't fly here.

Show nested quote +
I recall them stating a number of times that they were unsure of exactly what happened and were merely repeating what they heard. I don't know where you are getting the impression that they were purposefully going out of their way to discredit you.


"He is the whiniest guy I know"

"He is quitting casting SC2"

Gee I cannot imagine where that impression came from! Must be just me being overly defensive.

Man i wonder how they got the impression of "Hes the whiniest guy ever"

Its not SotG's fault you handled this wrong.

You come out and say I'm cutting back on my starcraft 2 content after the incident happened with the tournament. I just don't get how you see how much of a fuck up that is on your part. OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASSUME since you didn't publicly say why...
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
February 16 2011 15:43 GMT
#10047
Oh God, this is not going the right way.

Someone needs to clear shit up.
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
February 16 2011 15:45 GMT
#10048
TB take your right hand and grasp your panties and pull them out of your ass.

Feel better now?


I like your casting. I find it enjoyable to listen to because it is a different style than all the other casters do. Therefore, it sounds nice to my ear.

I truly feel you would do yourself more good if you either didn't feed the trolling(lies) or responded in a calm well written "press release"(your own thread here on TL). Just coming into a thread and sounding a bit like a whiny bitch, really doesn't do you any good except for temporarily making YOU feel better, while making you look worse.

So please take your right hand and grasp your panties and pull them out of your ass.



Hoping to hear you doing more SC2 casting in the future.....
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 16 2011 15:46 GMT
#10049
On February 17 2011 00:41 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:40 Dental Floss wrote:
I know how to make this go away! Crickey! I'll just make as big of a deal about it as possible and that will cause the situation to abate naturally on its own!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect


Who said I wanted it to go away? It's in my best interests for it not to until the matter is set straight.

Show nested quote +
Just so I can confirm this.

You are honestly claiming that they were purposefully making up lies about you? You don't believe that they were simply misinformed and repeating what they had heard?

If that is the case then I really don't know what to say.


One indicates malice. The other indicates unprofessionalism. Both are pretty bad. Which is it?

I feel that one is far worse than the other and I'm just curious exactly which one it is that you are accusing them of.
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
February 16 2011 15:47 GMT
#10050
First they complain about the cast quality of commentators not hyping the game and then they go off on TB. Personally, while I liked the games the commentary was rather horrible for GLHF#1 and OK but really laggy for GLHF#2. I was on TB's stream and actually watched live, as he was kicked out of a running series.

I didn't watch the second day much (mainly because the commentary of GLHF) and missed the eclat. But in my opinion TB is one of the best play-by-play commentators and it would be a great move, to include him in major event.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 15:51:19
February 16 2011 15:50 GMT
#10051
I find it amusing TB is focusing on incontrol and idra while it was JP who presented them the "facts" and idra barely commented on the issue
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
February 16 2011 15:50 GMT
#10052
On February 17 2011 00:43 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Its not SotG's fault you handled this wrong.

You come out and say I'm cutting back on my starcraft 2 content after the incident happened with the tournament. I just don't get how you see how much of a fuck up that is on your part. OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASSUME since you didn't publicly say why...


Hahaha oh fucking wow. I'd love to see this attitude fly in real life, I mean really.

*Media personality slanders other media personality on popular broadcast show*
*Slandered personality sues the other guy*
*While standing in the courtroom, claims are made that 'oh the slandered guy just didn't handle it properly, that's the issue!'*

Ahahahah oh I'm fucking sorry, that is priceless, it's made my day just how fucking crazy that attitude is.

Here's the fuckin truth in black and white. This is what they were 'misinformed' about.

http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442649300959232
http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442787922718720

One after another, date-stamped, indisputable.

Now tell me I just didn't handle it right and I wasn't crystal clear.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
February 16 2011 15:50 GMT
#10053
Being a relatively new caster on the scene I understand how TB could get defensive, and I do think he should take a step back and mull this over. Once you tell your side of the story there's not much else you can do.

That said, I lost a bit of respect for JP, taking those assembly rumors as facts. This is a big community and you can't have solid facts on everything, but when it comes down to publicly slandering a big name like TB which has a great following and has done nothing harmful to the SC2 scene(on the contrary), you better have your facts straight. It was just disrespectful to TB, his following, and the SC2 scene as a whole.

INcontroL is INcontroL, and he is known for having a big mouth and we love him for it. He already apologized so I can't really hold it against him.
/commercial
ShadowLegacy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada55 Posts
February 16 2011 15:51 GMT
#10054
On February 16 2011 14:48 iNcontroL wrote:
I shouldn't have commented after only going off of what JP said. I was wrong to do that.

I'd be interested to hear what happened from TB's side of things. Publicly saying you will "step back" from SC2 as some kind of punishment is an interesting statement to make (assuming he did).


Just in case this was not seen.

As for the commnets that were said if I remember correctly iNcontrol seemed to be hesitant and the his opinion was based on the rumour supplied to him. The above post kinda confirms that.

As for idra's comment. Well he just likes hearing is own voice i guess.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
February 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#10055
I shouldn't have commented after only going off of what JP said. I was wrong to do that.

I'd be interested to hear what happened from TB's side of things. Publicly saying you will "step back" from SC2 as some kind of punishment is an interesting statement to make (assuming he did).


Apology accepted. For your reference, this is what was actually said.

http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442649300959232
http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442787922718720

It doesn't match up with what JP told you, you can see that.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#10056
On February 17 2011 00:21 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:19 Dental Floss wrote:
Its so funny how TB always comes to this thread to show everyone how he is above the drama and rolling with the punches or whatever.

TB: if you didn't love this drama and love feeling sorry for yoursellf or whatever you'd just stop posting in the SoTG threads and move on. I mean do you really have so much free time that you can defend yourself from every little negative comment? People talking about you is just part of being a public personality and you're going to have to get used to it and not lower yourself by getting involved.

That or throw the ol' boomerang at them whatever.


I'm not above drama.


Evidently.
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
February 16 2011 15:57 GMT
#10057
On February 17 2011 00:51 ShadowLegacy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 14:48 iNcontroL wrote:
I shouldn't have commented after only going off of what JP said. I was wrong to do that.

I'd be interested to hear what happened from TB's side of things. Publicly saying you will "step back" from SC2 as some kind of punishment is an interesting statement to make (assuming he did).


As for idra's comment. Well he just likes hearing is own voice i guess.


Idras comment about TB being the whiniest person in the community is actually 100% proved by this thread and even this page of this thread.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
MrSnibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom267 Posts
February 16 2011 15:58 GMT
#10058
On February 16 2011 17:32 itungle wrote:
can u guys at least be patience? omfg JP is doing this show for free and u guys i guess "jokingly" threating him? like srsly he can release this whenever he wants months from now if he pleased it is ur fault for not listen to it online (I did not either) .... just wait it gets annoying when people just keep rushing him while he is trying his best to upload the content..



+ Show Spoiler +
Oh boy, here we go


NO, I CAN'T BE PATIENCE, FUCK, I made my own 4 hour long vidcast and uploaded it to iTunes and Steam in the time it took for JP to upload it.


But yeah, listened to the cast at work, holy shit, work went so quick, thanks JP!
Thank you, based god.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
February 16 2011 15:59 GMT
#10059
On February 17 2011 00:57 Dental Floss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:51 ShadowLegacy wrote:
On February 16 2011 14:48 iNcontroL wrote:
I shouldn't have commented after only going off of what JP said. I was wrong to do that.

I'd be interested to hear what happened from TB's side of things. Publicly saying you will "step back" from SC2 as some kind of punishment is an interesting statement to make (assuming he did).


As for idra's comment. Well he just likes hearing is own voice i guess.


Idras comment about TB being the whiniest person in the community is actually 100% proved by this thread and even this page of this thread.

It's funny that Idra said it. I think the 2 whiniest persons in the community have their own show, which is called "Imbalanced". lol
MrSnibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom267 Posts
February 16 2011 16:01 GMT
#10060
On February 17 2011 00:35 DrunkeN. wrote:
Just in!! Next weeks guest will be TotalBiscuit.....would be interesting



Can we make this happen?

Please????
Thank you, based god.
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