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Pondo
Australia283 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 16 2011 23:38 Furycrab wrote: I'll be honest, 36 minutes in made me giggle a little, even if I knew this was gonna make this thread blow up. There obviously was a filter between the information that got to incontrol, and the interpretation. Your shoutcraft thread wasn't exactly clear on what happened with Assembly except that you didn't Quit SC2, merely focusing more on your other content which brings you more revenue. I personally love your WTF segments. What did happen? Some other caster got greedy and decided to randomly cut out other casters? The point is that nobody knows which is why I chose not to discuss it publically and why TL admins (rightly) did major damage control on it in the thread and in the IRC. There's several different accounts from several different people of importance. They don't match up, at all. Who is to be believed? Who fucking knows, that's why it shouldn't be discussed. One person I definitely wouldn't believe though, would be someone who wasn't involved in it in any way shape or form and doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. I care about what Incontrol says as far as the risk that someone might actually take him seriously rather than dismiss everything he says as trolling. That's about it. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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debasers
737 Posts
In the role GLHF thing TB was actually SUPER mature, being in favor of the glhf guys the role time when people were saying shit about them. | ||
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BetterFasterStronger
United States604 Posts
On February 16 2011 23:53 TotalBiscuit wrote: The point is that nobody knows which is why I chose not to discuss it publically and why TL admins (rightly) did major damage control on it in the thread and in the IRC. There's several different accounts from several different people of importance. They don't match up, at all. Who is to be believed? Who fucking knows, that's why it shouldn't be discussed. One person I definitely wouldn't believe though, would be someone who wasn't involved in it in any way shape or form and doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. I care about what Incontrol says as far as the risk that someone might actually take him seriously rather than dismiss everything he says as trolling. That's about it. Jesus Christ... well coming on and insulting iNcontroL and the cast on their own thread defiantly doesn't prove them right in calling you childish COUGH SARCASM COUGH Totalbiscut, you were obviously mad about not being able to cast. Thats pretty clear. The Casting problem occurred, and then all of a sudden you announced "hey i'm not going to be doing any/much starcraft 2 at all" or what ever you said. AND EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY UNRELATED, how did you not see it looking like this and causing this sort of problem. You do realize you could of just said "why you were going to stop making as much sc2 content" and this entire thing would of been avoided. Your PR trainer should be fired. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 17 2011 00:16 BetterFasterStronger wrote: Jesus Christ... well coming on and insulting iNcontroL and the cast on their own thread defiantly doesn't prove them right in calling you childish COUGH SARCASM COUGH Totalbiscut, you were obviously mad about not being able to cast. Thats pretty clear. The Casting problem occurred, and then all of a sudden you announced "hey i'm not going to be doing any/much starcraft 2 at all" or what ever you said. AND EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY UNRELATED, how did you not see it looking like this and causing this sort of problem. You do realize you could of just said "why you were going to stop making as much sc2 content" and this entire thing would of been avoided. Your PR trainer should be fired. Hey look, someone else who doesn't know what he's talking about. I was crystal clear about why I was cutting back on some SC2 content. Of course you wouldn't know that because your information comes direct from a bunch of lies. | ||
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
TB: if you didn't love this drama and love feeling sorry for yoursellf or whatever you'd just stop posting in the SoTG threads and move on. I mean do you really have so much free time that you can defend yourself from every little negative comment? People talking about you is just part of being a public personality and you're going to have to get used to it and not lower yourself by getting involved. That or throw the ol' boomerang at them whatever. | ||
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Emtee
58 Posts
On February 17 2011 00:03 debasers wrote: I really think that Incontrol is making a huge mistake in this role TotalBiscuit thing. He does not know the guy at ALL and the funny thing is that TB is one of the most likeable guys (at least he seems to be) in the role community. I don't know why Inc started doing it. In the role GLHF thing TB was actually SUPER mature, being in favor of the glhf guys the role time when people were saying shit about them. To community he seems nice, yes. Actually knowing people who worked with him and having dealt with him on some occasions. I can say there are times, he's really awesome and then there are other times where he's paranoid and thinks everyone is out to destroy him. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 17 2011 00:19 Dental Floss wrote: Its so funny how TB always comes to this thread to show everyone how he is above the drama and rolling with the punches or whatever. TB: if you didn't love this drama and love feeling sorry for yoursellf or whatever you'd just stop posting in the SoTG threads and move on. I mean do you really have so much free time that you can defend yourself from every little negative comment? People talking about you is just part of being a public personality and you're going to have to get used to it and not lower yourself by getting involved. That or throw the ol' boomerang at them whatever. I'm not above drama. I'll happily give as good as I get. Tell me you'd be ok with people lying about you through their backteeth in front of a live audience. Tell me that with a straight face. I doubt it. If they want drama (and they obviously do), they can have it. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
TB should just not care about what they say. If he wants to say something, say it as politely as possible, without all the "lol 5 minutes of bullshit" crap. Take the high road and explain why you want to keep your reasons personal, and why the guys on SOTG are wrong. Incontrol gets off on people getting mad or just reacting in general. He has nothing to use if you act normal and explain everything. Incontrol & friends should not have continued with their "EVEN SO...." crap after more information came in. They should have stopped to think about their own limited involvement in the matter. It's pretty much Incontrol making something up against TB and his buddies following him, which I see alot. Rarely do the 4 members of SOTG disagree about a non-starcraft2 opinion, especially when it comes to insulting (coin phrase "no offense but...") someone. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
Oh wait, no, criticism is an infinite resource and you're just going to go crazy trying to find it all and reply to it all. | ||
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On February 17 2011 00:19 Dental Floss wrote: Its so funny how TB always comes to this thread to show everyone how he is above the drama and rolling with the punches or whatever. TB: if you didn't love this drama and love feeling sorry for yoursellf or whatever you'd just stop posting in the SoTG threads and move on. I mean do you really have so much free time that you can defend yourself from every little negative comment? People talking about you is just part of being a public personality and you're going to have to get used to it and not lower yourself by getting involved. That or throw the ol' boomerang at them whatever. I think it's fine to point out lies/wrong statements. I mean people are still believing that Morrow and Sjow wanted to cheat and do match fixing and that Demuslim did break his arm in a bar fight. There are too much false rumors in the sc2 community and I think JP should invest 2 minutes to confirm the rumors before spreading them. | ||
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BetterFasterStronger
United States604 Posts
On February 17 2011 00:18 TotalBiscuit wrote: Hey look, someone else who doesn't know what he's talking about. I was crystal clear about why I was cutting back on some SC2 content. Of course you wouldn't know that because your information comes direct from a bunch of lies. yeah you were "crystal clear." with the post you made AFTER the first post of "im cutting back on my starcraft 2 FOR MY FANS crap" Obviously you were not "crystal clear." want proof? This thread, and everyone else's. But once again, "AND EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY UNRELATED, HOW DID YOU NOT SEE IT TURNING OUT LIKE THIS AND CAUSING THIS SORT OF PROBLEM."THIS IS SHOUTCRAFT | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
There's a fine line between being the mediator in the show and being the #1 follower (aka loyal dog). | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On February 17 2011 00:21 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm not above drama. I'll happily give as good as I get. Tell me you'd be ok with people lying about you through their backteeth in front of a live audience. Tell me that with a straight face. I doubt it. If they want drama (and they obviously do), they can have it. I recall them stating a number of times that they were unsure of exactly what happened and were merely repeating what they heard. I don't know where you are getting the impression that they were purposefully going out of their way to discredit you. The irony here is that what you are doing here is exactly the kind of behaviour they were criticising you for. It's perfectly possible to clear up some simple misinformation without getting so over defensive and creating unnecessary drama. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 17 2011 00:27 BetterFasterStronger wrote: Obviously you were not "crystal clear." want proof? This thread, and everyone else's. But once again, "AND EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY UNRELATED, HOW DID YOU NOT SEE IT TURNING OUT LIKE THIS AND CAUSING THIS SORT OF PROBLEM."THIS IS SHOUTCRAFT You cannot account for, when making statements, that someone of prominence is going to simply tell lies about you and start drama. I was indeed crystal clear, people decided to lie. Could I have prevented that? No. Can I clear up their lies now? Yeah. Should I? Fuck yeah, you serious? Don't give me that 'oh he's just trolling' bullshit. It wouldn't fly in any other medium, it doesn't fly here. I recall them stating a number of times that they were unsure of exactly what happened and were merely repeating what they heard. I don't know where you are getting the impression that they were purposefully going out of their way to discredit you. "He is the whiniest guy I know" "He is quitting casting SC2" Gee I cannot imagine where that impression came from! Must be just me being overly defensive. | ||
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StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
He's always bringing up the drama with no prior research - "rumour mill" (either from ignorance or hits value). INcontrol is just working with what he has, really up to the Host to provide the facts and let the personalities discuss/provide opinions. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
But this time, i can't help but defend TB because he basically just got slandered although it was rectified later on. Afterall, TB was contacted by Assembly and during the whole first day, it was the community who was practically BEGGING for him to cast and when he did came as OFFICIAL caster, he got shafted. And then he got ridiculed as well for showing up "uninvited" and pulling a tantrum when he didn't get invited to any games. Furthermore, he has health condition that triggers when he has stress-related problems. Bashing him even further is totally not cool :S Sorry TB hope things work out better in future events. | ||
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storm8ring3r
Germany227 Posts
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