EPT*top of the page dance*
Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 339
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
Darren1337
Ireland73 Posts
*top of the page dance* | ||
|
Barett
Canada454 Posts
I love the amount of theory crafting it adds some depth to the podcast overall. It isn't possible too do this every week, but on major Update days its great. This podcast is called State of the Game, unlike what alot of people listen too it for. That being the Antics/Hilarity that always pursues. Thanks everyone, especially Geoff and JP <3 no homo | ||
|
seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
Poll: Bring back Painuser? Yes please. (151) Hells no. (63) whatevs (63) 277 total votes Your vote: Bring back Painuser? | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On December 07 2010 10:49 LagT_T wrote: Didn't like this last cast as much as the previous ones, too much theorycrafting. i agree but it's what happens when people want to hear from top players about a patch they haven't played | ||
|
gnatinator
Canada169 Posts
After watching some of Idra's streams, I've begun to find a lot more respect for the difficulty of the Korean server. The Korean server hosts some of the most cut throat and cheesiest plays I've ever seen. | ||
|
ulf5
Sweden208 Posts
On December 07 2010 22:58 gnatinator wrote: I did not like Incontrol calling such accomplished members of our community bitches and resorting to personal attacks. After watching some of Idra's streams, I've begun to find a lot more respect for the difficulty of the Korean server. The Korean server hosts some of the most cut throat and cheesiest plays I've ever seen. Did you also take offence when Idra mentioned Artosis grass eating habit? | ||
|
BetterFasterStronger
United States604 Posts
On December 07 2010 22:58 gnatinator wrote: I did not like Incontrol calling such accomplished members of our community bitches and resorting to personal attacks. After watching some of Idra's streams, I've begun to find a lot more respect for the difficulty of the Korean server. The Korean server hosts some of the most cut throat and cheesiest plays I've ever seen. STOP TAKING INCONTROL SO FREAKIN SERIOUSLY god people are so stupid... "OMG INCONTROL IS RACIST" "OMG HE THREATEND IDRA AND ARTOSIS" "OMG INCONTROL HATES PUPPIES" Seriously people need to chill the fuck out... if incontrol wasn't how he was on the Pod Cast... i bet it would have half the viewers. Nuf said | ||
|
gnatinator
Canada169 Posts
Artosis and Idra have both done a lot for the Starcraft community and have long standing reputations to back up their experience and knowledge. | ||
|
Nik0
Uruguay460 Posts
| ||
|
AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On December 07 2010 23:20 BetterFasterStronger wrote: STOP TAKING INCONTROL SO FREAKIN SERIOUSLY god people are so stupid... "OMG INCONTROL IS RACIST" "OMG HE THREATEND IDRA AND ARTOSIS" "OMG INCONTROL HATES PUPPIES" Seriously people need to chill the fuck out... if incontrol wasn't how he was on the Pod Cast... i bet it would have half the viewers. Nuf said incontrol was clearly losing an argument and went on tilt. He wasn't able to deal with being shown to be wrong, so instead of conceding, he just kept pushing his argument and starting making personal attacks. He wasn't joking around at that point. | ||
|
ShadowBumble
Netherlands87 Posts
| ||
|
ZerOfy
United Kingdom405 Posts
On December 07 2010 22:20 Liquid`Tyler wrote: i agree but it's what happens when people want to hear from top players about a patch they haven't played Where were you??! Incontrol got ganged up on.  | ||
|
superllama
24 Posts
He also said that going Spire was already very difficult, as in, before the patch changes. So he is implying that 1. ZvP is broken unless Spire is an option yet also implying that 2. Spire is already hardly even an option. So this must mean that ZvP is only "balanced" when Spire is, like, 4/18ths of an option or something. Since that seems unlikely, Idra most likely believes that ZvP is already "broken", i.e. "imbalanced". So how could this new patch break something that's already broken? Incontrol's argument about zvp timings, e.g. opening stargate vs. getting it later, were good points, as the initial timings before phoenix count gets built up will be practically the same, i.e. Mutas will arrive before a delayed Stargate, but not before a Stargate opening, as always. Just wish he didn't get gangbanged so hard by arguments that were flawed to begin with | ||
|
formthehead
United States81 Posts
On December 08 2010 00:07 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: incontrol was clearly losing an argument and went on tilt. He wasn't able to deal with being shown to be wrong, so instead of conceding, he just kept pushing his argument and starting making personal attacks. He wasn't joking around at that point. irc incontrol only started that after day9's joke about the cream of the community arguing like everyone else on the forums. There was a bit of sarcasm there, I'd think. | ||
|
Dash27
United States51 Posts
You'd have to be careful of elitism, i.e. "You're only 2200 Diamond that doesnt make you good or your opinions worthy of being posted here in our special forum", but I think overall it would greatly improve the signal to noise ratio. Much less to slog through for the upper tier players. | ||
|
maliceee
United States634 Posts
His arguments and insults seem so elementary, yet they fly way above many heads in here. | ||
|
NonY
8751 Posts
On December 08 2010 00:33 ZerOfy wrote: Where were you??! Incontrol got ganged up on. i agreed with most of what idra and artosis were saying about the balance changes on the PTR. it's nice to have representation from different races for the discussions but it's not always for debating against each other with opposing opinions... more often it's just for different perspectives. i very often agree with artosis and idra but i'll have different reasons or a different experience that formed that opinion. and that's the strength of having guests on the show in fact i'd say that unless you've seen some posts or tweets or something indicating that there are some strong opinions in opposition to each other, you'd be better off assuming that we're not going to debate, but rather just discuss and try to describe the state of the game! | ||
|
emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Friends can say horrible things to each other and not mean it, they do it even more when they know they have an audience... atleast thats what british people do lol. | ||
|
Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On December 08 2010 01:20 Liquid`Tyler wrote: i agreed with most of what idra and artosis were saying about the balance changes on the PTR. it's nice to have representation from different races for the discussions but it's not always for debating against each other with opposing opinions... more often it's just for different perspectives. i very often agree with artosis and idra but i'll have different reasons or a different experience that formed that opinion. and that's the strength of having guests on the show in fact i'd say that unless you've seen some posts or tweets or something indicating that there are some strong opinions in opposition to each other, you'd be better off assuming that we're not going to debate, but rather just discuss and try to describe the state of the game! I really wish you had been on that one Tyler. I think iNcontrol may have felt a little ganged up on and I think when he did, he stopped making any reasonable arguments or points. I feel like there were some points to be made that he didn't get out, and that may have made him sound like an angry kid to some people. I'm a little tired of Dan and Idra insisting that zerg takes the most apm to use effectively, and while I wouldn't debate either of them on it (they know wayyyy more than me). They are just different. Yeah you have to inject your hatches (you don't even have to look at your base), yeah you need to spread creep well, and yeah you have to micro your units. Every race has apm sinks, like, having to look away from battle almost every time you wanna make units, or having to look in your base anytime you wanna chrono something (can be done from the minimap, but anything other than the nexus takes a lot of practice). I just don't think they should be compared, because when it comes to pure #'s they just can't be. I really liked this state of the game though, probably because of the patch . Spiced it up a notch. Now I just need to find the last bit, cause for some reason I don't think the end of it made it onto my zune -_-.Also do Pro's like to participate in the PTR? Or do you just see it as a waste of your training time? I could see it being not that helpful, maybe even detrimental to your play (depending on the proposed changes). | ||
|
NonY
8751 Posts
On December 08 2010 02:38 Wrongspeedy wrote: Also do Pro's like to participate in the PTR? Or do you just see it as a waste of your training time? I could see it being not that helpful, maybe even detrimental to your play (depending on the proposed changes). Best case scenario: you have no competitions in the immediate future so you practice on PTR and make a new build that somehow you keep private, then the changes on PTR actually go live and you have a competition soon after, where you get to use new build. It does not seem very likely to be helpful and as long as you have a steady flow of matches, you'd never have a chance to try it. And if it's not popular among top players, then you also have a problem finding opponents. | ||
| ||
