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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 26 2013 04:32 GMT
#53541
On April 26 2013 13:25 elmizzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 13:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:54 Klipsys wrote:
You come off as someone who has 0 real world business experience. I don't think you appreciate or understand the gravity or the massive undertaking that this entire process is. You seem like the type of entitled fan who feels you're owed something from blizzard.

Hint: You're Not.

You know ZERO about my work history. You decided to bring it up ... and so i'll respond.

"0 real world business experience"

+ Show Spoiler +
Waterloo University.. Co-op Engineering..
upon graduation i had 2 years work experience.
worked full time for 1 year at Brauch & Neville... and took their 2 smallest customers with me when i left and B&N was purchased by a multibillion dollar software maker that could care less about anyone spending less than 200K a year.
i now run my own software shop making reporting tools and add on tools for medical administration software.
chances are.. if you have OHIP you're in a database i've made.

Every time i spend money on a Blizzard game i expect value for my dollar.
Just as my customers expect value for the money they spend on me.
I live in the real world where I trade value for value via money. Money is a tool of exchange which cannot exist without goods produced and men capable of producing them.

because i work in the real world... REALITY is in the final arbiter.
not intentions.
not hope.
not "agility".

and here is the REALITY.
Blizzard knows they fucked up... which is why there have been a flurry of apologies..GameSpot "responses" led by Breslau Twitter damage control episodes on Morhaime's account ... and then an entire SotG damage control episode with Cloaken back-pedaling the entire interview.

i back TotalBiscuit's criticisms 100%

if BLizzard is going to mouth off during a giant PR offensive claiming they are "bigger than the NHL" and then their precious WCS comes off like a garage league... then they better expect criticism. Just as the NHL gets criticized when the players go on strike. If Blizzard thinks the criticisms are too harsh (Cloaken said he was fine with it during SotG)... they should step into Gary Betman's shoes and listen to him get boo-ed out of every Canadian hockey arena.


Stick to stuff you know about. You know ZERO about my work history. Learn to love it.

He is saying that you SOUND like, not you ARE. noone cares about your actual work history, and you do indeed come off as entitled and pretentious

This is JimmyJRaynor. He either puts an exorbitant amount of effort into trolling, or he's an egomaniac. Either way, it's usually best to ignore him or observe like a trainwreck.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
April 26 2013 04:33 GMT
#53542
On April 26 2013 13:30 GameHeart wrote:
Oh God, it seems like in every talkshow now people are talking about how GameHeart allows hackers to show the production tab.

It is the opposite! GameHeart actually BREAKS the production tab hack so it doesn't work! This is terrible publicity for GameHeart when it should be the opposite!

It hurts to have something you have worked so hard on take a hit from something that isn't even true.


Can Blizzard do something similar with non gameheart games? Although I suppose if they did then the hackers would just make a new version of the hack to get around it.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 26 2013 04:49 GMT
#53543
On April 26 2013 13:30 GameHeart wrote:
Oh God, it seems like in every talkshow now people are talking about how GameHeart allows hackers to show the production tab.

It is the opposite! GameHeart actually BREAKS the production tab hack so it doesn't work! This is terrible publicity for GameHeart when it should be the opposite!

Obviously this must be my fault because people misunderstood what I wrote on the topic, but it still hurts to have something you have worked so hard on take a hit from something that isn't even true.


We actually said it had at one point and that it had been fixed. We wouldn't want to use GameHeart if we believed it was currently possible to use it to cheat.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
GameHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
286 Posts
April 26 2013 04:54 GMT
#53544
That's true. But it still doesn't really help GameHeart to have people thinking it has been having issues like this.

Getting tournaments to adopt GameHeart while they are being pressured to use the Blizzard UI tool is a real struggle, so any kind of negative stuff like that can have a big impact.

The truth is custom map solutions for online tournaments like GameHeart may well be the best way for us to combat hacking.
Gameheart
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 05:48:53
April 26 2013 05:22 GMT
#53545
This guy speaking for Blizzard is not doing anything to make the company look better... all he is doing is say "things wont suck as much in the future" we have FOUR people on the ground? How many copies of SC2 sold? Fine if you want to act so cheap then don't make such big promises you cant keep. How many UI things have been promised not to come out for years? Companies like Valve make Blizzard seem like amateur hour.


Edit: I don't have any problem with the guy from Blizzard who was on the show, I think he really is passionate I just don't think Blizzard has equipped him with anything great to give us.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 05:59:54
April 26 2013 05:58 GMT
#53546
On April 26 2013 13:54 GameHeart wrote:
That's true. But it still doesn't really help GameHeart to have people thinking it has been having issues like this.

Getting tournaments to adopt GameHeart while they are being pressured to use the Blizzard UI tool is a real struggle, so any kind of negative stuff like that can have a big impact.

The truth is custom map solutions for online tournaments like GameHeart may well be the best way for us to combat hacking.

From what the community has said about GameHeart, I don't think you have anything to worry about, Especially with GSTL using it. Just keep up the amazing work, and the community will continue to support you and your creations (don't really know how to best say what it is you make, sorry).
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
April 26 2013 06:01 GMT
#53547
Yeah, people love Gameheart so far.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 26 2013 06:17 GMT
#53548
On April 26 2013 13:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 12:54 Klipsys wrote:
You come off as someone who has 0 real world business experience. I don't think you appreciate or understand the gravity or the massive undertaking that this entire process is. You seem like the type of entitled fan who feels you're owed something from blizzard.

Hint: You're Not.

You know ZERO about my work history. You decided to bring it up ... and so i'll respond.

"0 real world business experience"

Waterloo University.. Co-op Engineering..
upon graduation i had 2 years work experience.
worked full time for 1 year at Brauch & Neville... and took their 2 smallest customers with me when i left and B&N was purchased by a multibillion dollar software maker that could care less about anyone spending less than 200K a year.
i now run my own software shop making reporting tools and add on tools for medical administration software.
chances are.. if you have OHIP you're in a database i've made.

Every time i spend money on a Blizzard game i expect value for my dollar.
Just as my customers expect value for the money they spend on me.
I live in the real world where I trade value for value via money. Money is a tool of exchange which cannot exist without goods produced and men capable of producing them.

because i work in the real world... REALITY is in the final arbiter.
not intentions.
not hope.
not "agility".

and here is the REALITY.
Blizzard knows they fucked up... which is why there have been a flurry of apologies..GameSpot "responses" led by Breslau Twitter damage control episodes on Morhaime's account ... and then an entire SotG damage control episode with Cloaken back-pedaling the entire interview.

i back TotalBiscuit's criticisms 100%

if BLizzard is going to mouth off during a giant PR offensive claiming they are "bigger than the NHL" and then their precious WCS comes off like a garage league... then they better expect criticism. Just as the NHL gets criticized when the players go on strike. If Blizzard thinks the criticisms are too harsh (Cloaken said he was fine with it during SotG)... they should step into Gary Betman's shoes and listen to him get boo-ed out of every Canadian hockey arena.

Stick to stuff you know about. You know ZERO about my work history. Learn to love it.



What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

User was warned for this post
Hudson Valley Progamer
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
April 26 2013 06:20 GMT
#53549
On April 26 2013 15:17 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 13:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:54 Klipsys wrote:
You come off as someone who has 0 real world business experience. I don't think you appreciate or understand the gravity or the massive undertaking that this entire process is. You seem like the type of entitled fan who feels you're owed something from blizzard.

Hint: You're Not.

You know ZERO about my work history. You decided to bring it up ... and so i'll respond.

"0 real world business experience"

Waterloo University.. Co-op Engineering..
upon graduation i had 2 years work experience.
worked full time for 1 year at Brauch & Neville... and took their 2 smallest customers with me when i left and B&N was purchased by a multibillion dollar software maker that could care less about anyone spending less than 200K a year.
i now run my own software shop making reporting tools and add on tools for medical administration software.
chances are.. if you have OHIP you're in a database i've made.

Every time i spend money on a Blizzard game i expect value for my dollar.
Just as my customers expect value for the money they spend on me.
I live in the real world where I trade value for value via money. Money is a tool of exchange which cannot exist without goods produced and men capable of producing them.

because i work in the real world... REALITY is in the final arbiter.
not intentions.
not hope.
not "agility".

and here is the REALITY.
Blizzard knows they fucked up... which is why there have been a flurry of apologies..GameSpot "responses" led by Breslau Twitter damage control episodes on Morhaime's account ... and then an entire SotG damage control episode with Cloaken back-pedaling the entire interview.

i back TotalBiscuit's criticisms 100%

if BLizzard is going to mouth off during a giant PR offensive claiming they are "bigger than the NHL" and then their precious WCS comes off like a garage league... then they better expect criticism. Just as the NHL gets criticized when the players go on strike. If Blizzard thinks the criticisms are too harsh (Cloaken said he was fine with it during SotG)... they should step into Gary Betman's shoes and listen to him get boo-ed out of every Canadian hockey arena.

Stick to stuff you know about. You know ZERO about my work history. Learn to love it.



What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.


ive seen this on reddit... i would continue the joke but it would be extremely derailing lol
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
April 26 2013 06:21 GMT
#53550
On April 26 2013 15:17 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 13:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:54 Klipsys wrote:
You come off as someone who has 0 real world business experience. I don't think you appreciate or understand the gravity or the massive undertaking that this entire process is. You seem like the type of entitled fan who feels you're owed something from blizzard.

Hint: You're Not.

You know ZERO about my work history. You decided to bring it up ... and so i'll respond.

"0 real world business experience"

Waterloo University.. Co-op Engineering..
upon graduation i had 2 years work experience.
worked full time for 1 year at Brauch & Neville... and took their 2 smallest customers with me when i left and B&N was purchased by a multibillion dollar software maker that could care less about anyone spending less than 200K a year.
i now run my own software shop making reporting tools and add on tools for medical administration software.
chances are.. if you have OHIP you're in a database i've made.

Every time i spend money on a Blizzard game i expect value for my dollar.
Just as my customers expect value for the money they spend on me.
I live in the real world where I trade value for value via money. Money is a tool of exchange which cannot exist without goods produced and men capable of producing them.

because i work in the real world... REALITY is in the final arbiter.
not intentions.
not hope.
not "agility".

and here is the REALITY.
Blizzard knows they fucked up... which is why there have been a flurry of apologies..GameSpot "responses" led by Breslau Twitter damage control episodes on Morhaime's account ... and then an entire SotG damage control episode with Cloaken back-pedaling the entire interview.

i back TotalBiscuit's criticisms 100%

if BLizzard is going to mouth off during a giant PR offensive claiming they are "bigger than the NHL" and then their precious WCS comes off like a garage league... then they better expect criticism. Just as the NHL gets criticized when the players go on strike. If Blizzard thinks the criticisms are too harsh (Cloaken said he was fine with it during SotG)... they should step into Gary Betman's shoes and listen to him get boo-ed out of every Canadian hockey arena.

Stick to stuff you know about. You know ZERO about my work history. Learn to love it.



What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.


Alright boys this is not a pissing contest.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 06:24:03
April 26 2013 06:23 GMT
#53551
On April 26 2013 15:20 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:17 Klipsys wrote:
On April 26 2013 13:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:54 Klipsys wrote:
You come off as someone who has 0 real world business experience. I don't think you appreciate or understand the gravity or the massive undertaking that this entire process is. You seem like the type of entitled fan who feels you're owed something from blizzard.

Hint: You're Not.

You know ZERO about my work history. You decided to bring it up ... and so i'll respond.

"0 real world business experience"

Waterloo University.. Co-op Engineering..
upon graduation i had 2 years work experience.
worked full time for 1 year at Brauch & Neville... and took their 2 smallest customers with me when i left and B&N was purchased by a multibillion dollar software maker that could care less about anyone spending less than 200K a year.
i now run my own software shop making reporting tools and add on tools for medical administration software.
chances are.. if you have OHIP you're in a database i've made.

Every time i spend money on a Blizzard game i expect value for my dollar.
Just as my customers expect value for the money they spend on me.
I live in the real world where I trade value for value via money. Money is a tool of exchange which cannot exist without goods produced and men capable of producing them.

because i work in the real world... REALITY is in the final arbiter.
not intentions.
not hope.
not "agility".

and here is the REALITY.
Blizzard knows they fucked up... which is why there have been a flurry of apologies..GameSpot "responses" led by Breslau Twitter damage control episodes on Morhaime's account ... and then an entire SotG damage control episode with Cloaken back-pedaling the entire interview.

i back TotalBiscuit's criticisms 100%

if BLizzard is going to mouth off during a giant PR offensive claiming they are "bigger than the NHL" and then their precious WCS comes off like a garage league... then they better expect criticism. Just as the NHL gets criticized when the players go on strike. If Blizzard thinks the criticisms are too harsh (Cloaken said he was fine with it during SotG)... they should step into Gary Betman's shoes and listen to him get boo-ed out of every Canadian hockey arena.

Stick to stuff you know about. You know ZERO about my work history. Learn to love it.



What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.


ive seen this on reddit... i would continue the joke but it would be extremely derailing lol


I didn't even read what he wrote, I just saw him listing things and spouting off numbers and knew what I had to do.


Tonight's episode was outstanding by the way. I like how they had a CM on the show, but we all know from a PR standpoint nothing was really going to be answered/discussed that wasn't very generic, filtered, and non-committal (which i completely understand, but it still irks me)

I trust in big blue, and I know S3 will be better. I'm wondering how much time were talking about before it's 100% offline
Hudson Valley Progamer
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 26 2013 06:26 GMT
#53552
On April 26 2013 15:20 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:17 Klipsys wrote:
On April 26 2013 13:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:54 Klipsys wrote:
You come off as someone who has 0 real world business experience. I don't think you appreciate or understand the gravity or the massive undertaking that this entire process is. You seem like the type of entitled fan who feels you're owed something from blizzard.

Hint: You're Not.

You know ZERO about my work history. You decided to bring it up ... and so i'll respond.

"0 real world business experience"

Waterloo University.. Co-op Engineering..
upon graduation i had 2 years work experience.
worked full time for 1 year at Brauch & Neville... and took their 2 smallest customers with me when i left and B&N was purchased by a multibillion dollar software maker that could care less about anyone spending less than 200K a year.
i now run my own software shop making reporting tools and add on tools for medical administration software.
chances are.. if you have OHIP you're in a database i've made.

Every time i spend money on a Blizzard game i expect value for my dollar.
Just as my customers expect value for the money they spend on me.
I live in the real world where I trade value for value via money. Money is a tool of exchange which cannot exist without goods produced and men capable of producing them.

because i work in the real world... REALITY is in the final arbiter.
not intentions.
not hope.
not "agility".

and here is the REALITY.
Blizzard knows they fucked up... which is why there have been a flurry of apologies..GameSpot "responses" led by Breslau Twitter damage control episodes on Morhaime's account ... and then an entire SotG damage control episode with Cloaken back-pedaling the entire interview.

i back TotalBiscuit's criticisms 100%

if BLizzard is going to mouth off during a giant PR offensive claiming they are "bigger than the NHL" and then their precious WCS comes off like a garage league... then they better expect criticism. Just as the NHL gets criticized when the players go on strike. If Blizzard thinks the criticisms are too harsh (Cloaken said he was fine with it during SotG)... they should step into Gary Betman's shoes and listen to him get boo-ed out of every Canadian hockey arena.

Stick to stuff you know about. You know ZERO about my work history. Learn to love it.



What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.


ive seen this on reddit... i would continue the joke but it would be extremely derailing lol

Yeah, I like this one, I read it on youtube I think.
"Gorilla warfare" always gets me.
Honner
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
April 26 2013 06:26 GMT
#53553
Someone was asking for VOD links, didn't see link in the OP (yet):

Part 1 - Blizzard Rep. WCS discussion:


Part 2 - Shoutcraft US tourney discussion:

rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 07:14:28
April 26 2013 06:34 GMT
#53554
On April 26 2013 15:26 Honner wrote:
Someone was asking for VOD links, didn't see link in the OP (yet):

Part 1 - Blizzard Rep. WCS discussion (youtube)

Part 2 - Shoutcraft US tourney discussion (youtube)


Hmm, why does TL embed videos - embedding videos is a horrible thing to do unless its supposed to be consumed in five seconds or so.

edit:
now thats much better

edit2:
Im am very dumb and have used the play -> rightclick -> copy video url thing for years now - thanks for pointing me at that obvious big youtube button - guess i deserved that for accusing people embedding videos on making my life harder
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 26 2013 06:46 GMT
#53555
On April 26 2013 15:34 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:26 Honner wrote:
Someone was asking for VOD links, didn't see link in the OP (yet):

Part 1 - Blizzard Rep. WCS discussion (youtube)

Part 2 - Shoutcraft US tourney discussion (youtube)


Hmm, why does TL embed videos - embedding videos is a horrible thing to do unless its supposed to be consumed in five seconds or so.

edit:
now thats much better

you realize you can just click the big YOUTUBE button in the lower right corner of the embedded video to go to youtube, right?
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 26 2013 06:48 GMT
#53556
On April 26 2013 15:20 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:17 Klipsys wrote:
On April 26 2013 13:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On April 26 2013 12:54 Klipsys wrote:
You come off as someone who has 0 real world business experience. I don't think you appreciate or understand the gravity or the massive undertaking that this entire process is. You seem like the type of entitled fan who feels you're owed something from blizzard.

Hint: You're Not.

You know ZERO about my work history. You decided to bring it up ... and so i'll respond.

"0 real world business experience"

Waterloo University.. Co-op Engineering..
upon graduation i had 2 years work experience.
worked full time for 1 year at Brauch & Neville... and took their 2 smallest customers with me when i left and B&N was purchased by a multibillion dollar software maker that could care less about anyone spending less than 200K a year.
i now run my own software shop making reporting tools and add on tools for medical administration software.
chances are.. if you have OHIP you're in a database i've made.

Every time i spend money on a Blizzard game i expect value for my dollar.
Just as my customers expect value for the money they spend on me.
I live in the real world where I trade value for value via money. Money is a tool of exchange which cannot exist without goods produced and men capable of producing them.

because i work in the real world... REALITY is in the final arbiter.
not intentions.
not hope.
not "agility".

and here is the REALITY.
Blizzard knows they fucked up... which is why there have been a flurry of apologies..GameSpot "responses" led by Breslau Twitter damage control episodes on Morhaime's account ... and then an entire SotG damage control episode with Cloaken back-pedaling the entire interview.

i back TotalBiscuit's criticisms 100%

if BLizzard is going to mouth off during a giant PR offensive claiming they are "bigger than the NHL" and then their precious WCS comes off like a garage league... then they better expect criticism. Just as the NHL gets criticized when the players go on strike. If Blizzard thinks the criticisms are too harsh (Cloaken said he was fine with it during SotG)... they should step into Gary Betman's shoes and listen to him get boo-ed out of every Canadian hockey arena.

Stick to stuff you know about. You know ZERO about my work history. Learn to love it.



What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.


ive seen this on reddit... i would continue the joke but it would be extremely derailing lol


I've derailed some of the finest trains on the planet, in order to stop terrorist attacks.
meanmarine24
Profile Joined September 2011
37 Posts
April 26 2013 06:50 GMT
#53557
TB: "So "Cloaken", such and such were done badly and with conflicting reasons. Why did this happen?"
Cloaken:"We're sorry"

TB:"So what do you intend to do remedy those errors? Can you explain that a bit?"
Cloaken:"Yes, we'll improve it."

(unsaid)
TB:"Does that mean anything?"
Cloaken:"No, lol "

The interview in a nutshell.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
April 26 2013 06:53 GMT
#53558
On April 26 2013 15:34 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 15:26 Honner wrote:
Someone was asking for VOD links, didn't see link in the OP (yet):

Part 1 - Blizzard Rep. WCS discussion (youtube)

Part 2 - Shoutcraft US tourney discussion (youtube)


Hmm, why does TL embed videos - embedding videos is a horrible thing to do unless its supposed to be consumed in five seconds or so.

edit:
now thats much better


http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/editprofile.php

Untick "Show embedded YouTube videos:".
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recklessfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States373 Posts
April 26 2013 06:59 GMT
#53559
On April 26 2013 15:50 meanmarine24 wrote:
TB: "So "Cloaken", such and such were done badly and with conflicting reasons. Why did this happen?"
Cloaken:"We're sorry"

TB:"So what do you intend to do remedy those errors? Can you explain that a bit?"
Cloaken:"Yes, we'll improve it."

(unsaid)
TB:"Does that mean anything?"
Cloaken:"No, lol "

The interview in a nutshell.


i didn't expect cloaken to have detailed solutions to the issues at hand, hes not a higher up. He's the community manager and i would think its his job to take the bullets while the top players at blizzard figure out how to fix this mess we call wcs. I like cloaken, and hes confident blizzard will fix this mess, and i expect them too, but its a question on how fast they can fix all the glaring issues.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 26 2013 07:26 GMT
#53560
On April 26 2013 15:50 meanmarine24 wrote:
TB: "So "Cloaken", such and such were done badly and with conflicting reasons. Why did this happen?"
Cloaken:"We're sorry"

TB:"So what do you intend to do remedy those errors? Can you explain that a bit?"
Cloaken:"Yes, we'll improve it."

(unsaid)
TB:"Does that mean anything?"
Cloaken:"No, lol "

The interview in a nutshell.


I'm not sure why people imagine some miracle answer for such questions. If this were a post-game interview, it would be akin to asking "How does it feel winning this match?"

Fact of the matter is that these were issues of growing pains, and most can only be answered with "Next time will run smoother".

There were a lot of good details that came from the interview, some concrete and some vague, but if you only cared about the pitchfork topics then of course you weren't going to get those answers.
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