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On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for?
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On July 01 2012 10:45 Fahrenheit14 wrote:
That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for?
Both InControl and JP apologized to him in the last 5 minutes of the show.
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On July 01 2012 10:45 Fahrenheit14 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for?
Putting Idra in a lose-lose situation.
Either talk and lose, or dodge and lose. There wasn't really a way for Idra to avoid the black light of reddit and of course to some extension TL.
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On July 01 2012 10:40 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. arent you the guy who whined like a child because NASL wouldnt let you play in their tournament after Athene (or his fans) hacked the NASL website to give you votes? maybe you shouldnt go around telling people they are immature. edit: yep, it was you: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203928
Umm yeah, Avilo, quit acting like a golden boy. You are a good player, but you aren't the best, and you have to stop acting like you are. JP forced IdrA to talk with you, even though he doesn't like you. Why? Who cares, all that matters is he doesn't and in your one chance to have a proper conversation you started trying to talk over him and bend his words.
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On July 01 2012 10:45 Fahrenheit14 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for?
for bringing avilo onto the show after idra said no.
jp said he immediately messaged avilo after he hung up.
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On July 01 2012 10:40 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. arent you the guy who whined like a child because NASL wouldnt let you play in their tournament after Athene (or his fans) hacked the NASL website to give you votes? maybe you shouldnt go around telling people they are immature. edit: yep, it was you: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203928
Yeah I find Avilo's post quiet hypocritical lol.
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On July 01 2012 10:45 Fahrenheit14 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for?
He apologized to Idra for bringing on Avilo when it was obvious that the chat wanted it simply for the drama. He apologized to Avilo for having to end the skype call so suddenly because of where the discussion was headed. I don't think that JP was really much at fault, but it was still the better thing to do to clear up any miscommunications.
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People that are using avilo's past mistakes/behavior as justification for Idra+JP+Incontrol treating him like shit make no sense.
Idra has had quite the negative reputation in terms of maturity. The only difference between him and avilo is that he has posted results. Doesn't really excuse the way he treats people though. He only seems to want to dwell on the past, much like he does with Naniwa, not to even try and go into that.
In my honest opinion, he sets such a shitty example for anyone to follow. Also not sure why JP would shoot himself in the foot by bringing avilo on to the show.
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Holy crap can you guys drop it already......its getting really old
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On July 01 2012 10:51 xNSwarm wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:45 Fahrenheit14 wrote:On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for? He apologized to Idra for bringing on Avilo when it was obvious that the chat wanted it simply for the drama. He apologized to Avilo for having to end the skype call so suddenly because of where the discussion was headed. I don't think that JP was really much at fault, but it was still the better thing to do to clear up any miscommunications.
I actually think JP was the one most at fault. He brought Avilo on in the first place, knowing that it would cause drama, and then cut him off mid sentence. He brought Avilo on the show with no intention of showing him any respect and simply wanted him ridiculed.
On July 01 2012 10:56 mjnbowlgod wrote:
Holy crap can you guys drop it already......its getting really old
You realise you don't have to keep reading if you don't want to, right?
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On July 01 2012 10:40 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. arent you the guy who whined like a child because NASL wouldnt let you play in their tournament after Athene (or his fans) hacked the NASL website to give you votes? maybe you shouldnt go around telling people they are immature. edit: yep, it was you: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203928
Since it can't be proven that he had any involvement, you can't blame him for bitching at being removed because of something he says he didn't do and says he had no connection with whatsoever.
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There are people who'd like to discuss other things about the show, though. Those things are being completely buried underneath the current pitchforking.
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Should we have a Avilo SOTG incident article entry in Liquipedia??
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On July 01 2012 10:48 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:45 Fahrenheit14 wrote:On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for? Putting Idra in a lose-lose situation. Either talk and lose, or dodge and lose. There wasn't really a way for Idra to avoid the black light of reddit and of course to some extension TL.
I disagree that people are saying this is a lose-lose situation for IdrA. All he had to do was not act like a dick - ie: just be mildly patient and let Avilo make himself look like a fool (which likely would've happened). If IdrA can't be around people he doesn't like or finds annoying without losing his shit he's going to have an awfully difficult life once his gaming career ends. I recognize IdrA has trouble with this shit, but he knew this was a situation basically designed to create drama and then played right into it.
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On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually.
having actual blogs/ threads dedicated to balance whining, in a game that has such fluxuating winrates, is pretty immature.
the way you interrupted IdrA (after he had proven w/ qxc that he can be very manner while debating w/ a terran) and ignored his side of the conversation was pretty immature.
the way you have such a massive ego that you had to post several times in this thread asking to be on, and then complain about it afterwards, is pretty immature.
oh and doing this..
On July 01 2012 10:40 dAPhREAk wrote:arent you the guy who whined like a child because NASL wouldnt let you play in their tournament after Athene (or his fans) hacked the NASL website to give you votes? maybe you shouldnt go around telling people they are immature. edit: yep, it was you: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203928
is pretty immature.
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Not surprised that they laugh at avilo lol this guy is a joke just watch his stream rofl so dumb and terrible at this game and no im not hating just saying the truth.
User was warned for posting nothing but 1-liners throughout his history.
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On July 01 2012 10:45 Fahrenheit14 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 10:32 avilo wrote:On July 01 2012 02:25 IdrA wrote:
how on earth is this still going on
avilo is a joke of a person, anyone who has watched him play, read anything hes written, or heard anything hes said knows that. he kind of tried to act presentable on the show, but he opened up trying to bitch at geoff and then as soon as i started talking he was talking over me and saying i agreed with him when i didnt.
i was very short with him because i know his past outside the show and know he's not worth dealing with. just because someone tones it down once they get a big stage to preach their bullshit from doesnt make them any less of a waste of time. jp brought him on for some cheap laughs, he shouldntve done that and hes apologized, both publicly and to me, and it wont happen again. but avilo isnt supposed to be taken seriously and the fact that this has generated pages of discussion is absurd. Lol. What past is that? Writing opinions on a forum? You act like I have some criminal record somewhere or have personally hurt you @_@. Your ego is the problem. JP apologized to you? For what, making you guys look like arrogant people with huge egos/high schooler mentalities? You guys managed that yourselves. How I acted, and you may find this hard to believe Idra...is how I normally act. How you acted...is how you normally act. It speaks for itself. People can take me seriously if they deem my input valuable or not. Your cool kid bandwagon will end eventually, and people will realize there's a ton of people in this community more valuable than you guys, with more class than you guys, that build others up along with themselves instead of trying to knock people down. You guys will mature eventually. That's exactly what I was thinking. Can someone please explain to me why JP apologised to IdrA but not to Avilo? That makes no sense. JP didn't force IdrA to act the way he did. What the hell could he have to apologise for?
Probably did on skype, like he said during the show
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People have been saying that it wasn't Idra's fault that they brought Avilo on the show and he blew up. Excuse me, Idra isn't five years old. He should be able to handle talking with someone he doesn't like. This isn't kindergarten, this is a discussion amongst ADULTS.
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On July 01 2012 11:58 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
People have been saying that it wasn't Idra's fault that they brought Avilo on the show and he blew up. Excuse me, Idra isn't five years old. He should be able to handle talking with someone he doesn't like. This isn't kindergarten, this is a discussion amongst ADULTS.
Could say the same about Avilo as well.. Honestly it didn't start out that bad at first, but voices raised really fast. It wasn't just Idra yelling the whole time since Avilo didn't exactly keep his cool either.
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On July 01 2012 12:04 Nutwagon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 11:58 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
People have been saying that it wasn't Idra's fault that they brought Avilo on the show and he blew up. Excuse me, Idra isn't five years old. He should be able to handle talking with someone he doesn't like. This isn't kindergarten, this is a discussion amongst ADULTS. Could say the same about Avilo as well.. Honestly it didn't start out that bad at first, but voices raised really fast. It wasn't just Idra yelling the whole time since Avilo didn't exactly keep his cool either.
That's kind of an understatement. Avilo lost control entirely. He was pushed into an uncomfortable situation and handled it how most socially awkward people do, freak out and start shouting things.
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