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Ireniicus
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom374 Posts
May 12 2012 05:47 GMT
#44641
is there a VOD so I can watch this informative, controversial episode?
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
May 12 2012 05:49 GMT
#44642
On May 12 2012 14:41 Braric wrote:
I hate to say it but I have to agree with JP, between my experience on the ladder and all these whiners and witch hunters on the forums I have to say this is probably one of the worst online communities I've been apart of. People here are just so genuinely ungrateful and are always looking for something to complain and get angry about. It's always amusing to see what people think they are entitled to when in reality all they do is get angry and try to stir up some trouble to feel like they actually matter. Whether or not people genuinely just want to stir up trouble or just simply feel important I cannot say.

People seem to forget that JP does not have to do SOTG on a weekly basis or at all for that matter if he so chooses, the show he put together tonight was a last minute gig to try and provide something for the fans, but of course this community has to whine and protest that their free content wasn't up to their absurdly high standards Charge PPV for SOTG and ironically I guarantee that all of these haters and whiners would be non existent considering they are either to god damned stingy to pay and or to young.

I just hope amongst all the idiots JP can recognizes that some people really truly do enjoy SOTG for what it is and appreciate everything he and the other hosts do for our community.


If you think the SC2 community is bad, you probably haven't ever posted in a sports forum / car forum lol. I'm a long time car fanatic, and believe me, the shit that is going down here is nowhere close to what happens all the time in other communities. The SC2 community is very mannered in comparison to other groups (where having multiple team fanclubs on one site would result in total anarchy and burning servers).
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 05:49:43
May 12 2012 05:49 GMT
#44643
On May 12 2012 14:47 Ireniicus wrote:
is there a VOD so I can watch this informative, controversial episode?

It's at the top of the front page lol
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 12 2012 05:49 GMT
#44644
So much fucking drama, this is dumb as hell and so artificially manufactured it's almost laughable.
Magnious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States68 Posts
May 12 2012 05:49 GMT
#44645
On May 12 2012 14:47 Ireniicus wrote:
is there a VOD so I can watch this informative, controversial episode?


http://sotg-sc2.blogspot.com/
The Past is only the Future with the Lights On
DustyShelf
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom111 Posts
May 12 2012 05:54 GMT
#44646
Really cool episode of SOTG. I don't usually tune in but loved InControl's questioning and Sundance's relatively candid responses. So people are upset because they expected a "standard" episode?

I think they managed to stay objective by having Geoff control the questioning and JP mainly sat back and let Geoff ask the questions the community wanted to hear. I'd like to think I'm a good judge of objectivity having grown up on BBC reporting.

Good work!
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
May 12 2012 05:54 GMT
#44647
On May 12 2012 14:49 GreyKnight wrote:
So much fucking drama, this is dumb as hell and so artificially manufactured it's almost laughable.


TL should just have a constant restream of old Melrose Place episodes featured in the sidebar to prevent the vocal masses from manufacturing unnecessary bullshit.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
May 12 2012 05:57 GMT
#44648
Just call it an interview JP, if you didn't see this shitstorm coming then you aren't very good at reading situations. People are mad because you are calling this show "State of the Game" when it was just a 40 minute interview promoting/reporting on the events of MLG. That is 100% unfair to your loyal viewers of SotG and they don't deserve you raging at them at all.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 05:58:40
May 12 2012 05:57 GMT
#44649
On May 12 2012 14:49 RageCommodore wrote:
If you think the SC2 community is bad, you probably haven't ever posted in a sports forum / car forum lol. I'm a long time car fanatic, and believe me, the shit that is going down here is nowhere close to what happens all the time in other communities. The SC2 community is very mannered in comparison to other groups (where having multiple team fanclubs on one site would result in total anarchy and burning servers).


The thing is though, even if it's better than other places, it doesn't make it 'good'. It should be a lot better.
Lefthanded
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
May 12 2012 06:00 GMT
#44650
On May 12 2012 14:57 hysterial wrote:
Just call it an interview JP, if you didn't see this shitstorm coming then you aren't very good at reading situations. People are mad because you are calling this show "State of the Game" when it was just a 40 minute interview promoting/reporting on the events of MLG. That is 100% unfair to your loyal viewers of SotG and they don't deserve you raging at them at all.


Gotta agree with this. State of the Game is a show where multiple things are discussed by multiple people to get different opinions on whats currently happening in esports but the latest "show" was just an interview with Sunny D and Lee Chen.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 06:03:25
May 12 2012 06:01 GMT
#44651
On May 12 2012 14:35 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 14:02 AdreN- wrote:
On May 12 2012 12:43 short wrote:
On May 12 2012 12:30 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so fucking ignorant and ungrateful. I have the unique opportunity to bring Sundance on the show because I work in the office with him. The "show" was going to be a quick one-off about a huge thing that happened in the world of eSports yesterday, and then you shit on him and the "show" because he can't answer (business wise) the questions iNcontrol asked.

The show was literally planned 15 minutes prior to going on air and I'm in NYC with zero SotG assets except for the vid intro and intro/outro music -- no art. Production was terrible but the content was there and I would of rather have the exclusivity (LOL) / timeliness of the topic rather then waiting a week to discuss it.

The idiocy and pure bullshit this community feeds its personalities makes people want to quit on a daily basis. If I didn't have friends on the show that made me enjoy it and was just doing this myself, I would of quit long, long ago. Lay off the fucking kool-aid and think for yourself rather then joining the mob, getting pitchforks, and making people / tournaments / organizations drop all interactivity on social media.


I don't think you should judge the whole community by the small fraction that is drawn to these threads. Most people appreciate what you do, we're just not very vocal about it.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


The supposedly large portion of the community who enjoys it needs to be very vocal about it. Practically every player, caster and executive in the entire SC2 scene has said at least once that the community seems to be largely comprised of ungrateful/biased babies, trolls and idiots. It is actually disgusting. The internet wasn't anywhere near this bad 4-5 years ago.


The internet was exactly the same 4-5 years ago.

As for the Starcraft community, it's something that comes inseparable from popularity and exposure. More and more people who follow the scene begin acting like "consumers" and "fans" rather than community members. On the other hand, people who are actively working in the scene distance themselves and start acting like journalists, businessmen, "personalities" or star athletes rather than community members themselves.

In the end, fans of Starcraft are the same as fans of anything else, people who make money off of Starcraft are just the same as people who make money off of anything else, and the relationship between them is the only thing that it can possibly be.

Both "sides" should just face the reality of it instead of expecting the other side to be identical to what it was 3 years ago and being perpetually disappointed when it becomes apparent that they too have changed with the times. Afterall, isn't this what we always wanted? ESPORTS.
Magnious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States68 Posts
May 12 2012 06:01 GMT
#44652
On May 12 2012 14:57 hysterial wrote:
Just call it an interview JP, if you didn't see this shitstorm coming then you aren't very good at reading situations. People are mad because you are calling this show "State of the Game" when it was just a 40 minute interview promoting/reporting on the events of MLG. That is 100% unfair to your loyal viewers of SotG and they don't deserve you raging at them at all.


As a loyal viewer, I actually liked the show, and think that it had a lot to say about the current State of the Game, and also the future of the game. This is huge, and people are getting upset because it's "Talking about MLG".
The Past is only the Future with the Lights On
Carthac
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States393 Posts
May 12 2012 06:06 GMT
#44653
On May 12 2012 12:30 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so fucking ignorant and ungrateful. I have the unique opportunity to bring Sundance on the show because I work in the office with him. The "show" was going to be a quick one-off about a huge thing that happened in the world of eSports yesterday, and then you shit on him and the "show" because he can't answer (business wise) the questions iNcontrol asked.



Thank you for bringing your boss onto an advertisement for a paid stream your company will be putting on next week. We should feel privileged to tune in to listen to your commercials.
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
May 12 2012 06:12 GMT
#44654
I hoped you realize, JP, that despite the pitchfork mentality and the drama that's coming out of this, that there's some valid criticism behind it all. Particularly in regards to the amount of time allotted to MLG over everything else.
Jecktor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
May 12 2012 06:16 GMT
#44655
I think JP made a mistake posting that cause its the post equivalent of flipping the log and stoking the fire. JP should know that the ones who are not morons are less vocal about our feelings. Was it the best SOTG? No. But Im gad the news was given to us.

Trolls will be trolls, Please dont feed them JP. Love the show and glad you did the castette tonight. <3
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HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
May 12 2012 06:18 GMT
#44656
Hey JP - just trying to let you know the people that are happy about things are unfortunately usually the quiet ones. Keep going, we all appreciate the show!
themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
May 12 2012 06:22 GMT
#44657
On May 12 2012 12:30 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so fucking ignorant and ungrateful. I have the unique opportunity to bring Sundance on the show because I work in the office with him. The "show" was going to be a quick one-off about a huge thing that happened in the world of eSports yesterday, and then you shit on him and the "show" because he can't answer (business wise) the questions iNcontrol asked.

The show was literally planned 15 minutes prior to going on air and I'm in NYC with zero SotG assets except for the vid intro and intro/outro music -- no art. Production was terrible but the content was there and I would of rather have the exclusivity (LOL) / timeliness of the topic rather then waiting a week to discuss it.

The idiocy and pure bullshit this community feeds its personalities makes people want to quit on a daily basis. If I didn't have friends on the show that made me enjoy it and was just doing this myself, I would of quit long, long ago. Lay off the fucking kool-aid and think for yourself rather then joining the mob, getting pitchforks, and making people / tournaments / organizations drop all interactivity on social media.

Look who's calling others ungrateful. Probably the only caster in any major tournament who is there solely because of his connections and not of how good he is at casting. Yes many casters are here cause they knew the right people, but most of them have huge talent too. I cant say the same for you JP, please dont call us ungrateful and expect your shinny house to stay undented
gasmeter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom249 Posts
May 12 2012 06:38 GMT
#44658
I can understand where JP is coming from and I do agree that some people in the community take things a little too seriously sometimes. Now I might not be the biggest fan of JP's casting, but I have a huge amount of respect for him and the work he has done for eSports. The guy pours his heart into everything he does and the community has a lot to thank him for.

Some people need to just appreciate what we get, rather than criticising it because it's not what they wanted. Sure, it wasn't the greatest SOTG episode of all time, but at least it happened.
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takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 12 2012 06:42 GMT
#44659
On May 12 2012 15:22 themask4f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 12:30 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so fucking ignorant and ungrateful. I have the unique opportunity to bring Sundance on the show because I work in the office with him. The "show" was going to be a quick one-off about a huge thing that happened in the world of eSports yesterday, and then you shit on him and the "show" because he can't answer (business wise) the questions iNcontrol asked.

The show was literally planned 15 minutes prior to going on air and I'm in NYC with zero SotG assets except for the vid intro and intro/outro music -- no art. Production was terrible but the content was there and I would of rather have the exclusivity (LOL) / timeliness of the topic rather then waiting a week to discuss it.

The idiocy and pure bullshit this community feeds its personalities makes people want to quit on a daily basis. If I didn't have friends on the show that made me enjoy it and was just doing this myself, I would of quit long, long ago. Lay off the fucking kool-aid and think for yourself rather then joining the mob, getting pitchforks, and making people / tournaments / organizations drop all interactivity on social media.

Look who's calling others ungrateful. Probably the only caster in any major tournament who is there solely because of his connections and not of how good he is at casting. Yes many casters are here cause they knew the right people, but most of them have huge talent too. I cant say the same for you JP, please dont call us ungrateful and expect your shinny house to stay undented

He wasnt lying. A ton of people try hard to give us content and they get flamed for it. Its pathetic really but what can you do. I don't see how this episode hurt anyone in anyway but some idiots feel entitled and think that the show should discuss what they think it should discuss. Maybe you guys can create your own show. And dont worry there will be plenty of idiots left to flame you for it as well. Pathetic.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Quenchiest
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada286 Posts
May 12 2012 06:42 GMT
#44660
Yeah. It's a handful of people in a vocal minority on a forum.

There's a reason why a lot of the top personalities in the esports scene just refuse to even post on forums. People who want to bitch are always more vocal than those who enjoy the product.

It's frustrating and annoying, but you need to stop validating the whiners. Read it and move on.
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