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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 12 2012 05:17 GMT
#44621
Takes a lot of guts to insult someone anonymously over the internet with an anonymous screen name.
KingVietKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
May 12 2012 05:18 GMT
#44622
On May 12 2012 13:51 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I didn't see a mob. Did I miss something?

Because you didn't go to screddit which.... yea, good call I'd say. Basically threads calling out the show calling it biased and a corporate shill got really popular and had a lot of support. People saying that it's always been a front for MLG etc etc.... never mind the fact that if you actually take the number of minutes per every show devoted to MLG it'd probably even out pretty well with other events.

Probably should have gone ahead and called it an interview, but SOTG is JP and incontrol in many ways, so it makes sense to use the title still for a special one-off.

The worst part about this is that a site like screddit is really useful for content aggregation during major events, little interviews and features that won't pop up on TL's front page and gets buried in the forums, but when little is happening it turns into heinous, heinous shit.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15661 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 05:19:43
May 12 2012 05:18 GMT
#44623
edit: nevermind sorry!
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 05:22:25
May 12 2012 05:22 GMT
#44624
On May 12 2012 14:18 KingVietKong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 13:51 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I didn't see a mob. Did I miss something?

Because you didn't go to screddit which.... yea, good call I'd say. Basically threads calling out the show calling it biased and a corporate shill got really popular and had a lot of support. People saying that it's always been a front for MLG etc etc.... never mind the fact that if you actually take the number of minutes per every show devoted to MLG it'd probably even out pretty well with other events.

Probably should have gone ahead and called it an interview, but SOTG is JP and incontrol in many ways, so it makes sense to use the title still for a special one-off.

The worst part about this is that a site like screddit is really useful for content aggregation during major events, little interviews and features that won't pop up on TL's front page and gets buried in the forums, but when little is happening it turns into heinous, heinous shit.


Oh yeah dude 100% agreed, I actually don't visit that sub-reddit anymore. It has become such a shit fest of hate the past few months. I would recommend JP not visit that site either, or at least not actively read the stuff there.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
May 12 2012 05:23 GMT
#44625
On May 12 2012 14:18 KingVietKong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 13:51 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I didn't see a mob. Did I miss something?

Because you didn't go to screddit which.... yea, good call I'd say. Basically threads calling out the show calling it biased and a corporate shill got really popular and had a lot of support. People saying that it's always been a front for MLG etc etc.... never mind the fact that if you actually take the number of minutes per every show devoted to MLG it'd probably even out pretty well with other events.

Probably should have gone ahead and called it an interview, but SOTG is JP and incontrol in many ways, so it makes sense to use the title still for a special one-off.

The worst part about this is that a site like screddit is really useful for content aggregation during major events, little interviews and features that won't pop up on TL's front page and gets buried in the forums, but when little is happening it turns into heinous, heinous shit.


The problem is that it loves to pick up pitchforks and is a great front for very vocal minorities.

I liked the episode JP. Don't listen to the idiots, just keep going. Only people with something to complain about will write.
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
May 12 2012 05:23 GMT
#44626
JP, I can honestly say SOTG was the entire reason I actually started following sc2 early last year. You guys seemed like some cool dudes who just got together and spent about 2 hours talking about whatever the fuck interested you about the game. I really like watching this show.

A huge part of this community is to simple-minded to actually just look at what you do/who you are. They expect you to be this amazing unbiased host who listens to the hive-mind and does what it says. Quite frankly, it's embarrassing reading many of the comments here and on TL. This show is supposed to be a way for us to get insider views (2 top casters, 2 pro's, and a guy who works for MLG) on the happenings on the show. If he can get an interview with the head of the top of the biggest tournament? Fuck yea, I'll eat that shit up.

Anyway, thanks to JP and all the hosts who just talk about the stuff they love. Nope, it's not always the most professional looking podcast people, but it doesn't need to be when the hosts are so chill.
I'm a gooner.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 05:24:29
May 12 2012 05:23 GMT
#44627
On May 12 2012 14:22 Bayyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 14:18 KingVietKong wrote:
On May 12 2012 13:51 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I didn't see a mob. Did I miss something?

Because you didn't go to screddit which.... yea, good call I'd say. Basically threads calling out the show calling it biased and a corporate shill got really popular and had a lot of support. People saying that it's always been a front for MLG etc etc.... never mind the fact that if you actually take the number of minutes per every show devoted to MLG it'd probably even out pretty well with other events.

Probably should have gone ahead and called it an interview, but SOTG is JP and incontrol in many ways, so it makes sense to use the title still for a special one-off.

The worst part about this is that a site like screddit is really useful for content aggregation during major events, little interviews and features that won't pop up on TL's front page and gets buried in the forums, but when little is happening it turns into heinous, heinous shit.


Oh yeah dude 100% agreed, I actually don't visit that sub-reddit anymore. It has become such a shit fest of hate the past few months. I would recommend JP not visit that site either, or at least not actively read the stuff there.


My question is why would JP post it here and not on r/starcraft? He's preaching to the choir isn't he?
Without a paddle up shit creek.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
May 12 2012 05:25 GMT
#44628
countdown to when thread will get locked all this facepalmness
the e-sports drama never ceases
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 12 2012 05:26 GMT
#44629
On May 12 2012 14:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 14:04 Benjamin99 wrote:
So JP is pissed becuase people didnt like this MLG commerical?

No, it's because assholes like you feel entitled to get exactly what you want.

It's high time you realized that the interaction you get with SC2 players and personalities is a privilege. If you can't get that through your head, then everyone is simply going to distance themselves from the community like every other professional business does.


I dont feel entitled to anything and i find it quite hillarious just becuase people like me see right true this PR stunt from JP and his MLG employer that im an asshole??

Really? Well excuse me ill just stay quite so you fanboys can enjoy this amasing piece of journalistic professionalism.

Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
KingVietKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
May 12 2012 05:27 GMT
#44630
On May 12 2012 14:23 matiK23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 14:22 Bayyne wrote:
On May 12 2012 14:18 KingVietKong wrote:
On May 12 2012 13:51 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I didn't see a mob. Did I miss something?

Because you didn't go to screddit which.... yea, good call I'd say. Basically threads calling out the show calling it biased and a corporate shill got really popular and had a lot of support. People saying that it's always been a front for MLG etc etc.... never mind the fact that if you actually take the number of minutes per every show devoted to MLG it'd probably even out pretty well with other events.

Probably should have gone ahead and called it an interview, but SOTG is JP and incontrol in many ways, so it makes sense to use the title still for a special one-off.

The worst part about this is that a site like screddit is really useful for content aggregation during major events, little interviews and features that won't pop up on TL's front page and gets buried in the forums, but when little is happening it turns into heinous, heinous shit.


Oh yeah dude 100% agreed, I actually don't visit that sub-reddit anymore. It has become such a shit fest of hate the past few months. I would recommend JP not visit that site either, or at least not actively read the stuff there.


My question is why would JP post it here and not on r/starcraft? He's preaching to the choir isn't he?


He'd be brainlessly downvoted by an internet lynch mob who are currently mid-rage. Maybe he could post it in a week and he'd get a few supporters but at the moment the idiocy would drown him numerically and most likely enrage him more.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
May 12 2012 05:29 GMT
#44631
Progamers and SC2 figures worry too much about what the community thinks. It's really unhealthy, and posts like the one JP just made aren't really necessary. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what people say.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 12 2012 05:31 GMT
#44632
On May 12 2012 14:26 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 14:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 12 2012 14:04 Benjamin99 wrote:
So JP is pissed becuase people didnt like this MLG commerical?

No, it's because assholes like you feel entitled to get exactly what you want.

It's high time you realized that the interaction you get with SC2 players and personalities is a privilege. If you can't get that through your head, then everyone is simply going to distance themselves from the community like every other professional business does.


I dont feel entitled to anything and i find it quite hillarious just becuase people like me see right true this PR stunt from JP and his MLG employer that im an asshole??

Really? Well excuse me ill just stay quite so you fanboys can enjoy this amasing piece of journalistic professionalism.



What were you expecting though? He tweeted that it would be a short impromptu show with Geoff and Sundance to discuss yesterday's news. Did you honestly expect a completely candid interview with Sundance wherein he reveals every bit of detail of the agreement between MLG and Kespa?

To be fair, there was quite a bit of questions that were answered on the show and I'm glad they put it on this week. Hopefully this wont be the last show JP does.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
May 12 2012 05:35 GMT
#44633
On May 12 2012 14:02 AdreN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 12:43 short wrote:
On May 12 2012 12:30 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so fucking ignorant and ungrateful. I have the unique opportunity to bring Sundance on the show because I work in the office with him. The "show" was going to be a quick one-off about a huge thing that happened in the world of eSports yesterday, and then you shit on him and the "show" because he can't answer (business wise) the questions iNcontrol asked.

The show was literally planned 15 minutes prior to going on air and I'm in NYC with zero SotG assets except for the vid intro and intro/outro music -- no art. Production was terrible but the content was there and I would of rather have the exclusivity (LOL) / timeliness of the topic rather then waiting a week to discuss it.

The idiocy and pure bullshit this community feeds its personalities makes people want to quit on a daily basis. If I didn't have friends on the show that made me enjoy it and was just doing this myself, I would of quit long, long ago. Lay off the fucking kool-aid and think for yourself rather then joining the mob, getting pitchforks, and making people / tournaments / organizations drop all interactivity on social media.


I don't think you should judge the whole community by the small fraction that is drawn to these threads. Most people appreciate what you do, we're just not very vocal about it.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


The supposedly large portion of the community who enjoys it needs to be very vocal about it. Practically every player, caster and executive in the entire SC2 scene has said at least once that the community seems to be largely comprised of ungrateful/biased babies, trolls and idiots. It is actually disgusting. The internet wasn't anywhere near this bad 4-5 years ago.
Gunz24
Profile Joined June 2011
United States19 Posts
May 12 2012 05:37 GMT
#44634
The truth of the matter is that for everything SOTG is there is a lot that SOTG is not. One thing it is not is unbiased towards MLG. And it simply can't be as long as it has such strong inside ties to the organization. I can understand JP's frustrations with a lot of the unjust criticism but the fact is that the show comes off to a lot of people as an MLG pandering program. It would be like asking Fox News for unbiased opinion on the conservative agenda in America; not gunna happen. "Communty" bullshit aside (and there's alot) I believe that SOTG and MLG are not separate entities and therefore do not consider SOTG to be a genuine, unbiased or reliable show to get SC2 information from. Not a blast on JP, the players who make appearances or the production value; just the way I see it. I don't get the impression I'm alone on that.
iglocska
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway589 Posts
May 12 2012 05:39 GMT
#44635
I know you'll never see this JP, but if you do: The starcraft community is so massive that it ought to have a few loud idiots. The silent majority loves your show and really appreciates what you do. Keep it up and just ignore the haters
dark_dragoon10
Profile Joined May 2010
United States299 Posts
May 12 2012 05:41 GMT
#44636
Where is the next episode?!?!?!?!??!?! Cmon jp so much is happening I wanna hear yours, jeffs, seans, dans, and tylers comments!!!! and ofcourse boris's awesomeness
The TYRANT IS BACK! JAEDONG HWAITING! Nal_rA, Yellow, Boxer 4 life. Stephano, MC, and Zergbong!!!!
Braric
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 05:43:13
May 12 2012 05:41 GMT
#44637
I hate to say it but I have to agree with JP, between my experience on the ladder and all these whiners and witch hunters on the forums I have to say this is probably one of the worst online communities I've been apart of. People here are just so genuinely ungrateful and are always looking for something to complain and get angry about. It's always amusing to see what people think they are entitled to when in reality all they do is get angry and try to stir up some trouble to feel like they actually matter. Whether or not people genuinely just want to stir up trouble or just simply feel important I cannot say.

People seem to forget that JP does not have to do SOTG on a weekly basis or at all for that matter if he so chooses, the show he put together tonight was a last minute gig to try and provide something for the fans, but of course this community has to whine and protest that their free content wasn't up to their absurdly high standards Charge PPV for SOTG and ironically I guarantee that all of these haters and whiners would be non existent considering they are either to god damned stingy to pay and or to young.

I just hope amongst all the idiots JP can recognizes that some people really truly do enjoy SOTG for what it is and appreciate everything he and the other hosts do for our community.
"Hoodor" -Hodor
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
May 12 2012 05:43 GMT
#44638
On May 12 2012 14:23 matiK23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 14:22 Bayyne wrote:
On May 12 2012 14:18 KingVietKong wrote:
On May 12 2012 13:51 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I didn't see a mob. Did I miss something?

Because you didn't go to screddit which.... yea, good call I'd say. Basically threads calling out the show calling it biased and a corporate shill got really popular and had a lot of support. People saying that it's always been a front for MLG etc etc.... never mind the fact that if you actually take the number of minutes per every show devoted to MLG it'd probably even out pretty well with other events.

Probably should have gone ahead and called it an interview, but SOTG is JP and incontrol in many ways, so it makes sense to use the title still for a special one-off.

The worst part about this is that a site like screddit is really useful for content aggregation during major events, little interviews and features that won't pop up on TL's front page and gets buried in the forums, but when little is happening it turns into heinous, heinous shit.


Oh yeah dude 100% agreed, I actually don't visit that sub-reddit anymore. It has become such a shit fest of hate the past few months. I would recommend JP not visit that site either, or at least not actively read the stuff there.


My question is why would JP post it here and not on r/starcraft? He's preaching to the choir isn't he?


I just got done listening to the mp3 a while ago and came by the thread to check out what people were saying. I see this raging post from JP and it threw me off. As far as I know 95% of the people around here seem to like SOTG very much (and of course there is the vocal minority of people who don't). That's exactly the reason people have been complaining about it's inconsistency. It may sound like entitlement or bitching but really it's a huge compliment to SOTG and everyone on it. If so many people complain about not having something you're providing them with then it means you're doing a great job with the quality of the content.

I like an appreciate SOTG. Thanks to JP and everyone who makes that happen.
TSG_Gee
Profile Joined February 2012
United States20 Posts
May 12 2012 05:45 GMT
#44639
On May 12 2012 12:30 itmeJP wrote:
You people are so fucking ignorant and ungrateful. I have the unique opportunity to bring Sundance on the show because I work in the office with him. The "show" was going to be a quick one-off about a huge thing that happened in the world of eSports yesterday, and then you shit on him and the "show" because he can't answer (business wise) the questions iNcontrol asked.

The show was literally planned 15 minutes prior to going on air and I'm in NYC with zero SotG assets except for the vid intro and intro/outro music -- no art. Production was terrible but the content was there and I would of rather have the exclusivity (LOL) / timeliness of the topic rather then waiting a week to discuss it.

The idiocy and pure bullshit this community feeds its personalities makes people want to quit on a daily basis. If I didn't have friends on the show that made me enjoy it and was just doing this myself, I would of quit long, long ago. Lay off the fucking kool-aid and think for yourself rather then joining the mob, getting pitchforks, and making people / tournaments / organizations drop all interactivity on social media.



JP, I love the show and am grateful for everything you and everyone else has done on the show. The show is great and I love the content, chemistry and downright badassery that happens every time it airs. Even when SotG went on hiatus, I didn't feel the need to complain because I know that even a 2-3 hour show takes even longer prep work and you guys deserved a break.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there will always be those that are spoiled, ungrateful fucks, but there are those quiet people that enjoy every second of work you put into what you do.

Thank you <3
<3
Heaton31
Profile Joined October 2010
United States323 Posts
May 12 2012 05:45 GMT
#44640
Obviously the negative posts stand out more than the positive ones, but there always seems to be more positive posts than negative. Usually if people say a tournament sucks, it sucks. People have been gushing over MLG's, they've gushed over dreamhack and IPL. GOM and MLG partnership was huge and people loved it.

As much as the with hunts and bullshit like that goes on, the overly dramatic crap is just as bad. Overcompensating is the worst thing anyone can do in a situation like this and JP just went off the deep end with it.
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