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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1340

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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 05 2011 05:15 GMT
#26781
On July 05 2011 14:13 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played like one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Wait which 4 tournys has nestea participated in? I have no doubt that nestea would utterly destroy every single foreigner out there.

2011 SAGAcity Invitational 3 games
- 2011 Gigabyte StarsWar Killer 6 3 games
- 2011 LG Cinema 3D GSL World Championship Seoul 3 games
- 2011 PokerStrategy.com TeamLiquid StarLeague
no notable placements in any of the above.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 05:15:53
July 05 2011 05:15 GMT
#26782
On July 05 2011 14:13 Chibithor wrote:
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On July 05 2011 14:12 mikyaJ wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 Chibithor wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:10 mikyaJ wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:09 Kurr wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Mungosh wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:
On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:
[quote]

You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say?


Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports.

Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball.


It's part of the sport called Baseball.


Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports.

Baseball is a sport.
SC2 is an esport.
Little league baseball is a part of a sport.
Bronze level games are a part of an esport.

Wat?


I said PROFESSIONAL sports. It is not the same thing.

Who are you rule that ESPORTS is Professional Gaming. That makes no sense, nor are you some sort of omnipresent all-knowing being that can decide what's what. That's logic's job.

Also, has everyone forgotten about Mvp?

It's the definition of e-sports.

Professional Baseball is not the sport, Baseball itself is. ಠ_ಠ

Baseball isn't related to the definition of e-sports.

Just stop, this dumb, irrelevant argument doesn't need to be wasting pages of posts in the SOTG thread, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-sports now take this and your opinions and agree to disagree before i pull the rest of my hair out as i go through the thread
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 05 2011 05:15 GMT
#26783
On July 05 2011 14:13 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played like one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Wait which 4 tournys has nestea participated in? I have no doubt that nestea would utterly destroy every single foreigner out there.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=29&part=games&league=standard
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
July 05 2011 05:15 GMT
#26784
On July 05 2011 14:13 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played like one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Wait which 4 tournys has nestea participated in? I have no doubt that nestea would utterly destroy every single foreigner out there.

GSL World Championship, lost to DIMAGA first round.
TSL, lost to Goody first round.
Saga City invitational, lost to Ddoro first round.
Stars War 6, lost to Hotmail (a chinese player) first round.
MKP||TSL
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
July 05 2011 05:17 GMT
#26785
There is just no way Puma will win now..

Artosis is a great scout. But he is even better at jinxes.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 05 2011 05:17 GMT
#26786
Dimaga is a top zvz player, I'll accept that loss.

TSL and star wars were online right? If so that crosses out all legitimacy of the result.

Idk how saga was played, was it lan?
The Notorious Winkles
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 05 2011 05:17 GMT
#26787
Already the end?.....
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
July 05 2011 05:17 GMT
#26788
sagacity was online
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 05 2011 05:18 GMT
#26789
On July 05 2011 14:13 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Well considering Nestea said he will most likely never play in another online tourney he obviously thinks it is. I am more inclined to believe the best player in the world than a random TL poster.

also MC>nestea MC has way more tourney results :D
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 05 2011 05:18 GMT
#26790
SQUEE!
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
July 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#26791
Naniwa has the best poker face :|
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
July 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#26792
On July 05 2011 14:18 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:13 JJH777 wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Well considering Nestea said he will most likely never play in another online tourney he obviously thinks it is. I am more inclined to believe the best player in the world than a random TL poster.

also MC>nestea MC has way more tourney results :D

Korean results, no. They're about equal, if not NesTea has more.
MKP||TSL
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#26793
On July 05 2011 14:18 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:13 JJH777 wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Well considering Nestea said he will most likely never play in another online tourney he obviously thinks it is. I am more inclined to believe the best player in the world than a random TL poster.

also MC>nestea MC has way more tourney results :D

He plays in way more.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 05 2011 05:19 GMT
#26794
On July 05 2011 14:18 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:13 JJH777 wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Well considering Nestea said he will most likely never play in another online tourney he obviously thinks it is. I am more inclined to believe the best player in the world than a random TL poster.

also MC>nestea MC has way more tourney results :D


mc has not played nestea since season 2, where nestea beat him. Of course that was also before mc got good, though nestea improved alot too since then. no real way to compare them at this point.
The Notorious Winkles
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
July 05 2011 05:20 GMT
#26795
On July 05 2011 14:18 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:13 JJH777 wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:
On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:
Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket


He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.

Lag would be an excuse if he played one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.


Well considering Nestea said he will most likely never play in another online tourney he obviously thinks it is. I am more inclined to believe the best player in the world than a random TL poster.

also MC>nestea MC has way more tourney results :D


Nestea has waaay better overall GSL history which is the most important thing. MC has 2 first round exits in a row for most recent GSLs. While Nestea has a victory and a ro16.
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
July 05 2011 05:21 GMT
#26796
Worst episode ever. I'm actually glad it's over.
sail
Profile Joined September 2010
United States127 Posts
July 05 2011 05:21 GMT
#26797
I missed this so much.
cape
Profile Joined May 2010
United States142 Posts
July 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#26798
Poor Naniwa. Everytime he talked he got interrupted lol.
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
July 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#26799
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH A FERRET
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#26800
lol @ sean's reaction to the ferret
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