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I love Naniwa's mentality man "I want to play the best."
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LMAO naniwa...
"I don't have anything left to prove against Europeans or Americans."
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On July 05 2011 14:08 Kurr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 13:55 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:54 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't want to sound negative, but I'm a bit confused as to why a corporate league would constitute good viewing experience for fans of e-sports.
There are corporate leagues for everything from basketball to bowling. These are meant to be fun for the participants - that's pretty much it.
Sean's argument about college sports isn't quite apt here. The top college athletes go directly into professional sports - so even if the skill level is a bit off from pro-level, the competition is no less serious. Corporate leagues are casual in nature and meant to encourage team bonding and relaxing. Uniden wasn't grandmaster and he made for one of the funniest moments in esports. It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Let's fix your statement: Little League Baseball is part of the sport called Baseball. Uniden is (a person who is a) part of the sport called E-Sports, also known as Electronic Sports. This sport encompasses games ranging from CS: S to StarCraft II Glad we got that clarified. I see it's a lost cause if you consider bronze matches eSports. I guess so is farmville then.
Sleep on the idea, come back and then I'll be here willing to talk again.
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On July 05 2011 14:08 Kurr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 13:55 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:54 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't want to sound negative, but I'm a bit confused as to why a corporate league would constitute good viewing experience for fans of e-sports.
There are corporate leagues for everything from basketball to bowling. These are meant to be fun for the participants - that's pretty much it.
Sean's argument about college sports isn't quite apt here. The top college athletes go directly into professional sports - so even if the skill level is a bit off from pro-level, the competition is no less serious. Corporate leagues are casual in nature and meant to encourage team bonding and relaxing. Uniden wasn't grandmaster and he made for one of the funniest moments in esports. It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Let's fix your statement: Little League Baseball is part of the sport called Baseball. Uniden is (a person who is a) part of the sport called E-Sports, also known as Electronic Sports. This sport encompasses games ranging from CS: S to StarCraft II Glad we got that clarified. I see it's a lost cause if you consider bronze matches eSports. I guess so is farmville then.
You do realize there is a difference between the term eSports and professional gaming right?
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On July 05 2011 14:09 Kurr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:08 Mungosh wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 13:55 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:54 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't want to sound negative, but I'm a bit confused as to why a corporate league would constitute good viewing experience for fans of e-sports.
There are corporate leagues for everything from basketball to bowling. These are meant to be fun for the participants - that's pretty much it.
Sean's argument about college sports isn't quite apt here. The top college athletes go directly into professional sports - so even if the skill level is a bit off from pro-level, the competition is no less serious. Corporate leagues are casual in nature and meant to encourage team bonding and relaxing. Uniden wasn't grandmaster and he made for one of the funniest moments in esports. It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Baseball is a sport. SC2 is an esport. Little league baseball is a part of a sport. Bronze level games are a part of an esport. Wat? I said PROFESSIONAL sports. It is not the same thing.
Who are you rule that ESPORTS is Professional Gaming. That makes no sense, nor are you some sort of omnipresent all-knowing being that can decide what's what. That's logic's job.
Also, has everyone forgotten about Mvp?
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On July 05 2011 14:06 StyLeD wrote:You don't have to be the best to judge someone else. Tyler knows he's not the best, but Boxer isn't the best and that's pretty much fact =/
He has one of the best records coming out of the NASL regular season
what more do you want ;;
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On July 05 2011 14:09 Kiarip wrote:
LMAO naniwa...
"I don't have anything left to prove against Europeans or Americans."
Tbh its not like he's wrong, he is one of the best players outside of Korea and everyone (including himself) know it.
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On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket 
He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.
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On July 05 2011 14:10 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:08 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 13:55 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:54 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't want to sound negative, but I'm a bit confused as to why a corporate league would constitute good viewing experience for fans of e-sports.
There are corporate leagues for everything from basketball to bowling. These are meant to be fun for the participants - that's pretty much it.
Sean's argument about college sports isn't quite apt here. The top college athletes go directly into professional sports - so even if the skill level is a bit off from pro-level, the competition is no less serious. Corporate leagues are casual in nature and meant to encourage team bonding and relaxing. Uniden wasn't grandmaster and he made for one of the funniest moments in esports. It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Let's fix your statement: Little League Baseball is part of the sport called Baseball. Uniden is (a person who is a) part of the sport called E-Sports, also known as Electronic Sports. This sport encompasses games ranging from CS: S to StarCraft II Glad we got that clarified. I see it's a lost cause if you consider bronze matches eSports. I guess so is farmville then. Sleep on the idea, come back and then I'll be here willing to talk again.
I'm here. Explain how my statement contradicts yours. You consider ANY random game of starcraft 2 part of eSports. Why is it that another online game is not?
The reason is simple, because your reasoning is flawed.
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On July 05 2011 14:10 mikyaJ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:09 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:08 Mungosh wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 13:55 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:54 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't want to sound negative, but I'm a bit confused as to why a corporate league would constitute good viewing experience for fans of e-sports.
There are corporate leagues for everything from basketball to bowling. These are meant to be fun for the participants - that's pretty much it.
Sean's argument about college sports isn't quite apt here. The top college athletes go directly into professional sports - so even if the skill level is a bit off from pro-level, the competition is no less serious. Corporate leagues are casual in nature and meant to encourage team bonding and relaxing. Uniden wasn't grandmaster and he made for one of the funniest moments in esports. It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Baseball is a sport. SC2 is an esport. Little league baseball is a part of a sport. Bronze level games are a part of an esport. Wat? I said PROFESSIONAL sports. It is not the same thing. Who are you rule that ESPORTS is Professional Gaming. That makes no sense, nor are you some sort of omnipresent all-knowing being that can decide what's what. That's logic's job. Also, has everyone forgotten about Mvp?
It's the definition of e-sports.
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NesTea has said they he will never participate in online tournaments.
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On July 05 2011 14:09 Kiarip wrote:
LMAO naniwa...
"I don't have anything left to prove against Europeans or Americans."
Yea, can't wait to see him play in Korea, I hope he gets the code S seed by winning Anaheim too!
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On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder.
Lag would be an excuse if he played like one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.
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On July 05 2011 14:11 Chibithor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:10 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 14:09 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:08 Mungosh wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 13:55 dapanman wrote:
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Uniden wasn't grandmaster and he made for one of the funniest moments in esports. It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Baseball is a sport. SC2 is an esport. Little league baseball is a part of a sport. Bronze level games are a part of an esport. Wat? I said PROFESSIONAL sports. It is not the same thing. Who are you rule that ESPORTS is Professional Gaming. That makes no sense, nor are you some sort of omnipresent all-knowing being that can decide what's what. That's logic's job. Also, has everyone forgotten about Mvp? It's the definition of e-sports.
Professional Baseball is not the sport, Baseball itself is. ಠ_ಠ
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On July 05 2011 14:12 mikyaJ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:11 Chibithor wrote:On July 05 2011 14:10 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 14:09 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:08 Mungosh wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:
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It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Baseball is a sport. SC2 is an esport. Little league baseball is a part of a sport. Bronze level games are a part of an esport. Wat? I said PROFESSIONAL sports. It is not the same thing. Who are you rule that ESPORTS is Professional Gaming. That makes no sense, nor are you some sort of omnipresent all-knowing being that can decide what's what. That's logic's job. Also, has everyone forgotten about Mvp? It's the definition of e-sports. Professional Baseball is not the sport, Baseball itself is. ಠ_ಠ
Baseball isn't related to the definition of e-sports.
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On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder. Lag would be an excuse if he played one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.
Well considering Nestea said he will most likely never play in another online tourney he obviously thinks it is. I am more inclined to believe the best player in the world than a random TL poster.
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On July 05 2011 14:12 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:11 StyLeD wrote:On July 05 2011 14:08 Olinim wrote:Nestea does horribly in foreign toruenys would probably lose in the first round of losers bracket He's never been to any LAN foreign tournaments so you can't say that. The reason he loses online foreign tournaments is because of the slight lag (I would think lag affects how Nestea plays more than any other player), but also I think that Nestea only played 1-2 foreign tournaments, lost early, and doesn't try any more.....he could do really well in foreign tournies if he tried alot harder. Lag would be an excuse if he played like one tourney and lost...but he has participated in 4 tourneys and he has a 33 percent win rate...MC won an online tourney, the lag isn't 33 percent winrate bad.
Wait which 4 tournys has nestea participated in? I have no doubt that nestea would utterly destroy every single foreigner out there.
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On July 05 2011 14:13 Chibithor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:12 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 14:11 Chibithor wrote:On July 05 2011 14:10 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 14:09 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:08 Mungosh wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:
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You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Baseball is a sport. SC2 is an esport. Little league baseball is a part of a sport. Bronze level games are a part of an esport. Wat? I said PROFESSIONAL sports. It is not the same thing. Who are you rule that ESPORTS is Professional Gaming. That makes no sense, nor are you some sort of omnipresent all-knowing being that can decide what's what. That's logic's job. Also, has everyone forgotten about Mvp? It's the definition of e-sports. Professional Baseball is not the sport, Baseball itself is. ಠ_ಠ Baseball isn't related to the definition of e-sports.
The definition of esports is Electronic Sports. SC2 the game is an electronic sport.
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On July 05 2011 14:11 Kurr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 14:10 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:08 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:05 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On July 05 2011 14:02 Kurr wrote:On July 05 2011 13:57 dapanman wrote:On July 05 2011 13:56 mikyaJ wrote:On July 05 2011 13:55 dapanman wrote:
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Uniden wasn't grandmaster and he made for one of the funniest moments in esports. It wasn't a moment in ESPORTS, it was just a sc2 game. You're right SC2 isn't an esport. Is that what you want me to say? Jesus people are so over-sensitive. eSports = professional gaming IE : GSL, NASL, etc and the players that participate make up eSports. Random newbies like uniden aren't a part of it. It's like saying a little league baseball game is part of professional baseball. It's part of the sport called Baseball. Yes, and games people like uniden play are part of the game called Starcraft 2. Glad we agree it's not related to eSports. Let's fix your statement: Little League Baseball is part of the sport called Baseball. Uniden is (a person who is a) part of the sport called E-Sports, also known as Electronic Sports. This sport encompasses games ranging from CS: S to StarCraft II Glad we got that clarified. I see it's a lost cause if you consider bronze matches eSports. I guess so is farmville then. Sleep on the idea, come back and then I'll be here willing to talk again. I'm here. Explain how my statement contradicts yours. You consider ANY random game of starcraft 2 part of eSports. Why is it that another online game is not? The reason is simple, because your reasoning is flawed.
eSports is the participation or practice of a highly competitive and mentally straining or exhilarating video-game on any level, degree or form of understanding.
this basic definition is not the whole form of E-Sports, but rather a concise depiction to show that your views of E-Sports is narrow-minded and petty. You think because it isn't play professionally or to a heightened degree, it has no contribution to the growth or to the practice.
Sleep on it. Your exaggeration of mentioning Farmville just shows your own flaws of understanding.
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