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RE: Geoff being exclusive to ItG over SotG due to EG pulling some strings:
It is a bit of an underhanded move, if true (which it may come out to be completely untrue, I am not definitively saying one way or another). The even shittier thing about it is that it will undoubtedly work. I know I have let ItG fly under my radar for the past 3 episodes as I felt it was just a more educational (don't really need that) version of SotG, but now if its the exclusive SC2 podcast with my favourite players (IdrA and iNcontroL), I can guarantee djWheat that he has a subscribed viewer in me.
RE: djWheat going off on that dude about 2 hours:
I am completely on Wheat's side, although the sarcasm and ridicule he added to the post were a bit unnecessary. As a full-time student with a full-time job, I can personally say that 2 hours a week can be the make-or-break for an assignment or even my sanity. I know Geoff has a ton of things going and I am in full support of him doing whatever he needs to in order to be the best player he can be.
@Aurdon
"Why would a sponsor want LESS exposure for Incontrol, EG, and their brands. They basically get more exposure for sponsors if Incontrol does every project possible. If he could do both ITG and SotG, the sponsors would love it. More free mentions for them. More building of the Incontrol brand."
While in THEORY, this is a solid concept, it does not hold true to the current state of the community. With so much SC2 to watch on a weekly basis, choosing to see SotG can take prominence for those choosing to watch ItG. As I stated earlier, I never saw myself as needing another podcast, but now I will definitely be tuning into ItG just to see my favourite EG members. If there was less content on the scene right now, the community could afford to sacrifice 4 hours a week for both these shows (I feel), but with so many tourneys and leagues, one of them has to be cut because they are not mutually beneficial.
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Would it be possible to maybe combine ITG and SOTG and maybe have Wheat and JP co-host the show on onemoregame.tv? The content of the shows is similar and maybe JP could bring over the 'rawness' of SOTG. There are probably a bunch of reasons why this can't happen but I just feel that SOTG isn't going to be the same (it will probably be way worse imo) without InControl and I don't think that the current format of ITG will ever yield as entertaining episodes as SOTG delivers each week.
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Haha watching the episode now. Title should be State of the protoss <3 4protosses.
I loved to hear Naniwa and Huk on the show. I'm actually becoming a fan of Naniwa, the more i see of him nowadays 
Also Incontrol will be missed <3
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On May 26 2011 04:08 Campbell wrote:
Would it be possible to maybe combine ITG and SOTG and maybe have Wheat and JP co-host the show on onemoregame.tv? The content of the shows is similar and maybe JP could bring over the 'rawness' of SOTG. There are probably a bunch of reasons why this can't happen but I just feel that SOTG isn't going to be the same (it will probably be way worse imo) without InControl and I don't think that the current format of ITG will ever yield as entertaining episodes as SOTG delivers each week.
The two shows are wildly different in presentation, focus and content. Combining the two is like trying to combine a sports car with a motorcycle.
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I can only say it's really unfortunate that we won't have Geoff on the show any longer. I am personally surprised Geoff would give the show up, as it seemed really quite important to him.
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On May 26 2011 04:11 Stiver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 04:08 Campbell wrote:
Would it be possible to maybe combine ITG and SOTG and maybe have Wheat and JP co-host the show on onemoregame.tv? The content of the shows is similar and maybe JP could bring over the 'rawness' of SOTG. There are probably a bunch of reasons why this can't happen but I just feel that SOTG isn't going to be the same (it will probably be way worse imo) without InControl and I don't think that the current format of ITG will ever yield as entertaining episodes as SOTG delivers each week. The two shows are wildly different in presentation, focus and content. Combining the two is like trying to combine a sports car with a motorcycle.
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Sup.
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Shoutouts to Charger for the PM. I enjoy being able to resolve misunderstandings in an intelligent and productive way. My apologies for the outburst. And thanks for the PM.
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On May 26 2011 04:11 Stiver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 04:08 Campbell wrote:
Would it be possible to maybe combine ITG and SOTG and maybe have Wheat and JP co-host the show on onemoregame.tv? The content of the shows is similar and maybe JP could bring over the 'rawness' of SOTG. There are probably a bunch of reasons why this can't happen but I just feel that SOTG isn't going to be the same (it will probably be way worse imo) without InControl and I don't think that the current format of ITG will ever yield as entertaining episodes as SOTG delivers each week. The two shows are wildly different in presentation, focus and content. Combining the two is like trying to combine a sports car with a motorcycle.
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I don't see the problem.
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Honestly, in my eyes, I think someone as entertaining as Geoff should replace him. Although it is sad for me to see him go, I feel that he is more of the funny side of SOTG and we need someone as entertaining as him.
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On May 26 2011 03:55 Aurdon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 03:51 eNtitY~ wrote:On May 26 2011 03:47 djWHEAT wrote:On May 26 2011 03:29 blackone wrote:
It's not as "fucking ridiculous" if you read the entirety of his posts, instead of picking one sentence and making fun of it. Yes it is. Anytime someone says, "2 hours is no big deal" when they have no idea about the schedule of the individual is making a "fucking ridiculous" statement. That's just disrespectful and selfish to think that way. I wasn't making fun of it, I was stating the cold hard facts that 2 hours to some people is priceless, and to have someone come in and say, "PFFFT, 2 hours isn't shit" is completely uncalled for. This goes for anyone who dedicates time to the community whether it's a player, a caster, a writer, etc. You are taking it to literal, the question derives from the notion that he could drop ITG instead of SotG. It becomes more obvious after realizing ITG is an EG sponsored show on why hes forced to drop SotG. It probably has MUCH less to do with time constraints as it does sponsor conflicts of interest. Which half the reason why people are upset IMO. It's essentially like a major corporation with money coming in and closing down the Ma' and Pop shop down the road that you've loved for years. It sucks because that corporations food quality isn't better but they have the money to "buyout" the competition. Why would a sponsor want LESS exposure for Incontrol, EG, and their brands. They basically get more exposure for sponsors if Incontrol does every project possible. If he could do both ITG and SotG, the sponsors would love it. More free mentions for them. More building of the Incontrol brand. It's time. Not some vast sponsor conspiracy.
Sure it would be awesome both for him and his sponsors if he could do both, but doing both ITG and SOTG on the same day is a huge time commitment to podcasts that don't really further your career in any field (unlike practicing, competing or commentating).
The point remains that he'll actually be doing ITG, so now the amount of time he'll be spending on community podcasts actually remains around the same as before ITG existed and he only had SOTG to appear in.
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On May 26 2011 04:13 Durn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 04:11 Stiver wrote:On May 26 2011 04:08 Campbell wrote:
Would it be possible to maybe combine ITG and SOTG and maybe have Wheat and JP co-host the show on onemoregame.tv? The content of the shows is similar and maybe JP could bring over the 'rawness' of SOTG. There are probably a bunch of reasons why this can't happen but I just feel that SOTG isn't going to be the same (it will probably be way worse imo) without InControl and I don't think that the current format of ITG will ever yield as entertaining episodes as SOTG delivers each week. The two shows are wildly different in presentation, focus and content. Combining the two is like trying to combine a sports car with a motorcycle. Sup.
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Figures pictures like that would exist. Although it doesn't refute my point that you wouldn't really want those two combined.
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On May 26 2011 04:19 Stiver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 04:13 Durn wrote:On May 26 2011 04:11 Stiver wrote:On May 26 2011 04:08 Campbell wrote:
Would it be possible to maybe combine ITG and SOTG and maybe have Wheat and JP co-host the show on onemoregame.tv? The content of the shows is similar and maybe JP could bring over the 'rawness' of SOTG. There are probably a bunch of reasons why this can't happen but I just feel that SOTG isn't going to be the same (it will probably be way worse imo) without InControl and I don't think that the current format of ITG will ever yield as entertaining episodes as SOTG delivers each week. The two shows are wildly different in presentation, focus and content. Combining the two is like trying to combine a sports car with a motorcycle. Sup. ... Figures pictures like that would exist. Although it doesn't refute my point that you wouldn't really want those two combined. Just saying. It can be done. YOUR ANALOGY IS FLAWED.
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I get your point, and I agree. They cannot be combined based on the night and day content.
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Am I missing something or is all this ITG exclusivity completely people making inferences and then running with them? Did Geoff say something to lead people to believe he will never guest on SotG? Is there any real information that says anything other than Geoff is simply no longer going to be a pillar?
I know people are upset that Geoff is leaving the show, especially since SotG projects a more intimate relationship with the hosts. Allowing fans to feel a more personal connection to the hosts as the content is more revealing of the host's personalities and the behind the scene relationships of players. However at least give him more respect than running away with assumptions. So many people talk about how they hate that Geoff is more "politically correct", but then many of those same people promote the atmosphere requires it by going overboard reading into things in the most sinister way they can.
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SotG used to be oriented around the actual state of the game during the beat, which made a lot of sense back then since there was such huge flux with patches coming out week after week. However, it's not too relevant now since the strategies don't exactly change in as quickly as a week.
That being said, I don't think theres any issue of moving it back to a "educationally" oriented show/discussion. Those were its roots, and I'm sure JP has the know-how and the cast to turn the show into whatever will entertain the masses. Sad to hear its going on hiatus.
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On May 26 2011 04:19 Stiver wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 04:13 Durn wrote:On May 26 2011 04:11 Stiver wrote:On May 26 2011 04:08 Campbell wrote:
Would it be possible to maybe combine ITG and SOTG and maybe have Wheat and JP co-host the show on onemoregame.tv? The content of the shows is similar and maybe JP could bring over the 'rawness' of SOTG. There are probably a bunch of reasons why this can't happen but I just feel that SOTG isn't going to be the same (it will probably be way worse imo) without InControl and I don't think that the current format of ITG will ever yield as entertaining episodes as SOTG delivers each week. The two shows are wildly different in presentation, focus and content. Combining the two is like trying to combine a sports car with a motorcycle. Sup. ... Figures pictures like that would exist. Although it doesn't refute my point that you wouldn't really want those two combined.
It's called a joke.
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honestly I am going to watch both .... but I prefer Sotg because JP isnt an asshole ...DJ Wheat just rubs me the wrong way especially because hes always rude to just about every caller even when they have a decent question .... JP is more chill ...
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I feel like this hiatus will be the death of SOTG, it just seems like a lot of times a break means either the content creator has gotten burned out or that there are improvements planned. The lose of one of the huge members that always pushed for longer shows and more content has got to be a big hit. R.I.P. SOTG now that you have gone the way of Epileptic Gaming.
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pretty disappointing the way EG is being so hostile to MLG, although it's to be expected when you're trying to make money.
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On May 26 2011 03:59 Fingulfin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 02:43 Tachion wrote:
I'd have really loved to hear more from the Protoss hosts about infestors =\
They all agreed that they were super good, and borderline overpowered, but In what situations/unit compositions? I play a pretty basic roach/hydra/corruptor/drop style and I only manage to get like 2-3 infestors out when I'm nearing close to max, but now I feel like I'm playing the matchup completely wrong because I'm not utilizing infestors enough in my build. I have no idea where to start when it comes to changing it... Already been replied to, but the real answer is stop going Roach/Hydra/Corrupter. As soon as you hit lair tech, get that infestor tech going as quickly as (safely) possible. Quick mid game Infestors stop 6 gate, blink stalker shenanigans, DTs, Collossi pushes and weird voidray+gateway all ins. If your opponent goes Collossi, after you repel the first push (or if he turtles) get your spire going for some corrupter or muta action. Hydras are no longer part of the "core" ZvP build; they are used to punish a player who over-commits with stargate units (they allow you to allin and just roll him). If that is the case the game should end before infestors/deathballs become an issue. Standardish Z mid game builds are Infestor/Ling (which transitions into Infestor/Ling/Ultra), Roach/Infestor (which transitions into Roach/infestor/corrupter/brood lord) or Roach/Ling/Bling+Drops (with optional infestors for super effectiveness). If you are using a roach build and your opponent goes for immortals, research neural parasite.
I do a fairly decent job of following the pro scene, and I can't really think of any pros who are outstanding at ZvP while utilizing infestors as a core unit, can you? I would love to be able to study some games/builds from a consistent ZvP player in this regard.
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Maybe it's just that Starcraft 2 is so big now that every prominent figure has to become a caricature of himself in order to do anything.
Hail Esports.
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