Bashiok Aknowledging Balance Issues - Page 6

On August 18 2010 08:17 Drowsy wrote:
Wtf is with this 26% shit? It's 19% on sc2ranks right now. That's a huge problem, don't try to understate it by bullshitting numbers. I'm also quite sick of blizzard's "Korean Zergs!1!1" shit because then retards regurgitate it despite it being blatantly false. Korea only has 17% zerg, 2% below the global average. Yes, that's right, even the fabled solid macro koreans think this race is boring and gay. Furthermore, 7, not 10, of the top 20 on kr are zerg, but maybe his post is a little old. Top 20 is probably a bad representation, something like top 100 would likely be a better representation of the highest skilled players.

On August 18 2010 08:17 Drowsy wrote:
Wtf is with this 26% shit? It's 19% on sc2ranks right now. That's a huge problem, don't try to understate it by bullshitting numbers. I'm also quite sick of blizzard's "Korean Zergs!1!1" shit because then retards regurgitate it despite it being blatantly false. Korea only has 17% zerg, 2% below the global average. Yes, that's right, even the fabled solid macro koreans think this race is boring and gay. Furthermore, 7, not 10, of the top 20 on kr are zerg, but maybe his post is a little old. Top 20 is probably a bad representation, something like top 100 would likely be a better representation of the highest skilled players.

On August 18 2010 06:45 MythicalMage wrote:
I think a lot of it is PR and psychology. When I'm picking my race, I don't want the one that the community deems UP, whether or not that's true.

On August 18 2010 08:28 Tachion wrote:
Am I wrong in assuming that most Korean terrans like to use bio in TvZ? or at least use a half-half mix of bio with mech? I haven't seen many Korean games where they go pure mech, but then again I haven't seen that many Korean terrans at all.
Since zerg deals with bio easier, that was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the Korean rankings.

On August 18 2010 08:26 ToxNub wrote:
This thread is officially hijacked.

Zerg tears come pouring out again... twisting words to suit their own egos.

The statement is that zerg is underplayed, not underpowered. Balance changes are in the works, but not necessarily to buff zerg... Zerg cry about every single thing. They claim every single unit and every single mechanic as being inferior, depending on the thread.

And yet, most zerg do fine. There are no statistics to indicate imbalance. With no evidence, they continue to cry. Who could possibly be so foolish? Quit, forever, spare us your tears, as delicious as they are. The community will be better for it. You will always be bad, no matter what race you play, no matter what they balance. You'll find that out soon eonugh.

On August 18 2010 02:31 AcOrP wrote:
why so many people blame the lower skill level for zerg being week... Yes in lower division skill level is low... But if you make mistake with zerg you lose the game. And if you are terran even if u do tons of mistakes its still hard for zerg to win the game... Korean zergs are doing fine but korean zergs have insane high skill level and in ladder you don't realy face pros only, you do face alot weaker oponents that are basicly free wins for the pro korean zergs...

On August 18 2010 08:29 Saracen wrote:

I wonder if they have seen this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=144731

On August 18 2010 00:49 raga4ka wrote:


They shouldn't have taken out the lurker before the beta . They said that the lurker overlaped with the other units and practically said fuck you to zerg users and if you want a complete race wait for the expansion and an other 60 $ dollars . If they bring back the lurker in Hots i will be forced to destroy my SC2 wings of liberty CD and never buy an other blizzard game again . They already made the game super expensive by spliting it in to 3 parts and if the reason they left the zerg race unfinished ( compared to the other 2 races in wings of liberty ) is that they want people to buy their expansion is unforgivable .

On August 18 2010 01:33 ironchef wrote:
Not going to comment on balance,but zerg being underrepresented makes total sense to me.
Theyre the most different race mechanic wise, and werent playable in single player. I can see tons of new, non hardcore players just being confused and want to stick with something close to what they learned in tutorials/campaign. Even if the game is 100% balanced, I'd expect zerg to be less represented from the casual factor alone.

On August 18 2010 08:23 shlomo wrote:
TLDR version: playing the easymode race might bite you in the ass when a good balance patch finally happens.

On August 18 2010 09:05 Karas wrote:
I won't debate whether zerg is ultimately UP, but I will say there are a ton more strategies zerg players can try before throwing in the towel.

1) More burrow uses (roaches, banelings)
2) More drops (very few zergs use drops/nydus right now, to their detriment).
3) Faster broodlord/ultra tech (right now the common z midgame is 2 evos with upgrades. What if all that money was spent on faster hive tech...it might be a better overall strat)
4) Corruption. Especially against those pesky thors, it might be a big help there.

Game still has a long learning curve to get to where it is going.