EPTWhat are they doing that the Euros are missing, who have 1 Zerg in top 10 lol
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
What are they doing that the Euros are missing, who have 1 Zerg in top 10 lol | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Kisra
United Kingdom466 Posts
Of course, from what I understand those tournaments will be played on Blizzard operated local servers, so might just stick with the current patch. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 18 2010 06:09 Ryuu314 wrote: Nerf Terran. Bring back overkill (for every unit, not just ones with projectiles). That's all I ask. :[ Wasn't it always only on units with projectiles/shot delay (in particular, Tanks having shot delay in SC1)? Maybe I just didn't notice marine/hydralisk overkill. | ||
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iNty.sCream
Germany195 Posts
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
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Fizbin
Canada202 Posts
On August 18 2010 01:33 ironchef wrote: + Show Spoiler + Not going to comment on balance,but zerg being underrepresented makes total sense to me. Theyre the most different race mechanic wise, and werent playable in single player. I can see tons of new, non hardcore players just being confused and want to stick with something close to what they learned in tutorials/campaign. Even if the game is 100% balanced, I'd expect zerg to be less represented from the casual factor alone. Anyway, not doubting their sincerity, but this is a standard blizzard response and doesnt really tell us anything new. You can pretty much assume this stance on everything going forward. The more rare/notable cases are when they go "nope, you guys are wrong, not gonna fix/look at it!" i think not only that but so many new players talk to the good players or read forums and come to the conclusion zerg is crap and then they all jump on the band wagon. hence only 26% representation. notice how in the lower leagues all the terrans are sucking really really bad? because they are most likely the players who are new to sc2, suck, or are just doing flavor of the month! haha! good to hear blizzard is at least aware of the problem. i hope when they do make some changes rather then balance it... they make zerg a little more interesting to play. more options. i dont know how many times in beta i QQ'd on threads trying to get blizzard to add another unit to the zerg tech tree. and look where they are now.. 26% representation!! zerg was my favorite race in bw's. now i play diamond random. but would much rather be playing zerg only! maybe after an expansion or some COOL changes i'll go back. i miss kerrigan being evil too... wtf. hydra speed is gay off creep. whoevers idea that was is a ritard | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On August 18 2010 06:31 iNty.sCream wrote: whats are tournaments worth if the game isnt balanced? Exactly. Would Gom be having a half million in prizes if the game was horribly imbalanced? Would the pros let them? I don't think so. | ||
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Dreadwolf
Canada220 Posts
Finding good solution(s) in a balance equation like this is not easy, i actually expect them to fuck up something, but they will get it right, eventually. | ||
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Trok67
France384 Posts
I remember blizzard saying that they were going to fix zerg with some amazing stuff and then the patch when they give Frenzy to infestors to try to fix zergs (because they were aware that zerg were boring), huge fail the spell was pretty awfull they've removed it and did nothing else to fix zergs... I really can't feel like blizzard is going to do anything in the good direction to fix the balance either but we will see... | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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sNes.
United States377 Posts
On August 18 2010 01:15 Amber[LighT] wrote: I love when Terran players get 5 reapers and think they're microing. Or when they use two vikings as a follow-up to "micro" and kill off stray overlords Or when they drop tank/thor on your cliff and "micro" it. Or when they use banshee "micro" to carefully User was warned for this post Or when mutas come in a micro scvs and kill turrets Or when people blink micro stalkers Or when people micro graviton beam siege tanks with pheonix Or when people micro effectivly with collosi.. tbh the micro you mentioned from terran is in fact MICRO... | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On August 18 2010 05:56 PanzerDragoon wrote: so like, 5 of the top 10 Korean are Zerg, and from what I've seen, they all play extremely aggressively. What are they doing that the Euros are missing, who have 1 Zerg in top 10 lol probably baneling busts. most of the zergs that are complaining (like idra) are ones who prefer late-game zerg but can't get there due to how strong reaper rushes and bunker rushes are. no top zerg wants any change besides slower-building barracks/bunkers, right now early reapers or bunker rushes are like the original 4-pool, they just come too fast to stop. | ||
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toadstool
Australia421 Posts
On August 18 2010 03:01 shlomo wrote: I have nothing against TLO personally, I think he's a great player. But while players like IdrA, despite all the BM qq, stick to the race that is definitely more challenging to play, others go from random to the flavor of the month because it "gives them more options" (might as well say straight up it's the easiest to play). IdrA is an inspiration for people who struggle with Zerg, TLO is a letdown in general because he goes from very interesting creative random player to particularly good at lolterran abuse. Doesn't take away from their skills. Just character wise, I'll take IdrA and his BM Zerg over TLO's "lol I can abuse hellions and then make a quick starport and viking harass cuz I play T". This is the dumbest thing I've heard today. If Terran was your best race, and gets you the best results in your practice matches, why would you still use zerg? To lose? It may surprise you, but people play games (and tournaments) to win, not for the challenge of playing. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
On August 18 2010 08:01 jalstar wrote: probably baneling busts. most of the zergs that are complaining (like idra) are ones who prefer late-game zerg but can't get there due to how strong reaper rushes and bunker rushes are. no top zerg wants any change besides slower-building barracks/bunkers, right now early reapers or bunker rushes are like the original 4-pool, they just come too fast to stop. Watched a lot of Check's games recently on HD's channel, He's very aggressive with Zerg from one base and seems to be successful. Euro's and American players seem to favour expanding early where the Korean's seem to just go on constant attack from the go.. or at least that's what it's seemed in the vids i've watched recently. | ||
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shlomo
258 Posts
On August 18 2010 08:09 toadstool wrote: This is the dumbest thing I've heard today. If Terran was your best race, and gets you the best results in your practice matches, why would you still use zerg? To lose? It may surprise you, but people play games (and tournaments) to win, not for the challenge of playing. I'm speaking from my (spectator) point of view. Of course, if it works better for him, it makes sense for him to pick Terran. It's just completely uninteresting to watch supercharged terran cheese game after game, with more and more TvT mirrors in pretty much each event I've followed lately. Also, unless you're significantly better with Terran, I'm not sure it's strategically the best option to go with the flavor of the month, because in the long run when T gets nerfed or others get buffed, you might have a harder time adjusting after relying on the easyterran crutch for a while. Whereas if Z ever gets help in ZvT, a player like IdrA will only become scarier. TLDR version: playing the easymode race might bite you in the ass when a good balance patch finally happens. | ||
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