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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:46 fabiano wrote: then just make hydras a little faster off creep and keep same speed as of now on creep. yeah, that would be better. IMO, to spread creep should be something useful, but not a necessity like it is. T and P can easily kill creep tumors, making the game even worse for zerg... | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:46 fabiano wrote: then just make hydras a little faster off creep and keep same speed as of now on creep. That's not one of the first things I would do if I were balancing the game for Blizzard, but it's not a bad idea. Right now, it feels more like zerg is penalized for being off of creep rather than getting a bonus for being on it. | ||
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GhostBusters
United States198 Posts
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Thrasymachus725
Canada527 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:41 Sky.Technique wrote: btw, am i the only one thinking that they need to up the range on the roach ?? im thinking changing it to 4 or 5 with 1 armor increase would help so much with balance... I sure hope you are the only one... because, I don't think you understand exactly how much that would DESTROY ZvP Balance. I am worried that the irrational dislike for the TvZ mu is going to lead to some balance issues that will DESTROY the balance of PvZ and PvT. If Terran get nerfed against Zerg, it will affect their play against Protoss. If Zerg get buffed against Terran it will affect their play against Protoss. | ||
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athalus
United States73 Posts
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itsben
435 Posts
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
Oh well, I believe everything will even themselves out in the end. I feel for pro's that have to figure out and get good consistent results immediately, true pioneers. | ||
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hoovehand
United Kingdom542 Posts
imo idra doesn't have the guts to switch to terran. he's not man enough to risk being humiliated by all of those terran's which he's badmouthed since the start of beta. even though he's pretty much insisted that he'd switch to terran if blizzard didn't fix zerg, that was like 4 months ago now? | ||
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Zerokaiser
Canada885 Posts
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Tritonus
Denmark125 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:51 synapse wrote: Those early vikings / banshees are so damn annoying! I think bringing back the speed upgrade and making hydras T1 makes a lot of sense; as Z, if you're going for a fast expand using speedlings (or any other build/strategy that avoids the fast lair), you're forced to make 2-3 extra queens that become entirely useless later in the game. Moving hydras to T1 might warrant moving roaches or banelings to T2, though... that'd be awkward. T3 spellcaster might seem necessary, but Zergs are fine if they can fairly safely set up 2-3 base economy. Not entirely true, your statement about Queens. I agree that they have a midgame period where they aren't really that useful, but once you have your creep up or start using a lot of nydus, queens can be really good to have in the battle using transfuse, and they actually do quite a lot of damage versus air. Ultralisk (or roaches, depending if you're facing armored or light) backed up with 5-6 queens transfusing their ass is simply bad ass. Also, they don't cost any gas so they leave room for you to add some other unit to that mix, or simply, more ultras. | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:57 Zanez.smarty wrote: I sure hope you are the only one... because, I don't think you understand exactly how much that would DESTROY ZvP Balance. I am worried that the irrational dislike for the TvZ mu is going to lead to some balance issues that will DESTROY the balance of PvZ and PvT. If Terran get nerfed against Zerg, it will affect their play against Protoss. If Zerg get buffed against Terran it will affect their play against Protoss. This is why balance patches don't and shouldn't come out willy-nilly. Blizzard seriously needs to take their time with this, both to ensure that there is a problem and to correct it without breaking other things. TvZ doesn't exist in a vacuum. | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
 .Gl with terran. | ||
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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jamvng
Canada244 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:51 synapse wrote: T3 spellcaster might seem necessary, but Zergs are fine if they can fairly safely set up 2-3 base economy. nahhh if Zerg can get to T3 w/o dying, ultras and brood lords own. | ||
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
On August 15 2010 09:01 Malgrif wrote: doesn't dimaga baneling bust every game? guess people figured out how to counter him o.o so now his allin only works sometimes Thats so 4 months ago. Watch some of his ladder games. I've seen him start a game on Delta Quadrant vs a T with a 16 hatch 15 pool. EDIT: Also, I think its a bluff, he might change T for a little, but he'll still practice Z, and switch right back as soon as the first patch comes out. | ||
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Tritonus
Denmark125 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:57 itsben wrote: To those suggesting T1 hydras, their damage would have to lowered by quite a lot. This makes roach/hydra armies much less scary and they wouldnt have as strong of a mid game. Simple. Just make roaches t2 and then buff them. Or give Hydras a t2 upgrade that would make them better on t2. I think zerg would be a lot easier to balance if they switched around roach and hydras. Why did blizzard make hydras t2 in the first place? | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
On August 15 2010 08:57 Zanez.smarty wrote: I sure hope you are the only one... because, I don't think you understand exactly how much that would DESTROY ZvP Balance. I am worried that the irrational dislike for the TvZ mu is going to lead to some balance issues that will DESTROY the balance of PvZ and PvT. If Terran get nerfed against Zerg, it will affect their play against Protoss. If Zerg get buffed against Terran it will affect their play against Protoss. Zerg problems are not related to one match-up. Zerg needs something better for early game, we don't want buffs for ZvT or ZvP, not even something to make us overpowered, but something to make Zerg at par with P and T in the early game. | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
Actually if you see korean zerg's play they look imba over terran. | ||
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