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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
July 30 2010 16:02 GMT
#281
gotta start saving replays..
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
July 31 2010 03:52 GMT
#282
ok, so if im attempting this, hypothetically. would it be better to start out with one race at the time, or do the random first? cuz my terran is horrible.
"Mudkip"
jyim89
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States33 Posts
July 31 2010 04:05 GMT
#283
My thoughts about this competition:
Whos gonna review 3000+ games worth of replays? and who is gonna keep track of all of them? Also does it really matter if a person cheeses every game? A zen master achievement is a zen master achievement... Plus a person has to play a minimum of 17 games per day without missing a day and meet the deadline and that is without losing a single game. If a person achieves this before the deadline even with cheesing everygame, I say they deserve it =/
my life for aiur
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
July 31 2010 04:25 GMT
#284
It'll take just as long to watch them as it took to play them. Gotta watch at 1x to be fair.
What is a dickfour?
virgozero
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada412 Posts
July 31 2010 04:29 GMT
#285
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
Mod edit
Fayth is legit, thread is legit, no need to ask for bans - he can afford this ;p
- Jinro

/End mod edit


I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv
1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins (it appears the race you get is counted as a win for the race so you're all better off starting with random)

(that's $0.66 per win)

Good luck! =)

Probably going to take a long while so bump this thread/message me when it's done

Edit: added time frame so it would put pressure on those who wanna participate, also account sharing is prohibited obv


So by january 28th at 11:59 EST if nobody has made it, well I keep da monies 8)


NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed


not to be a prick but you should define your "cheese".

A zerg going hatch before pool is extremely risky and if scouted can be fatal.
Yet no one will call that cheesey and that can be easily abused especially againts non-aggresive players.
Where as goign 5 gateways everyone screams cheese.

And how much is too much?
Spitt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
July 31 2010 17:34 GMT
#286
On July 31 2010 13:05 jyim89 wrote:
... If a person achieves this before the deadline even with cheesing everygame, I say they deserve it =/


I say they deserve it too... if YOU pay for the prize.

The problem with allowing cheesing, is that it will be likely someone who ends up writing a bot, and the bot will be so simple that the only way it can win, is to cheese the fights. However, from beta, we know there were some pretty well written AI's made from some players. Add an AI into a bot, and this will be a lot easier then people are thinking.

Make a fire for a man, warm him for a day. Light him on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 31 2010 17:36 GMT
#287
Why would you do this?

A testiment to human persistence or what?

Seems kinda pointless.. but whatever brah.. it's your dough throwin' around... just seems like a waste..

you can get a lotta fun for 2000 dollars...

meh.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 31 2010 17:40 GMT
#288
On July 30 2010 16:35 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 16:33 Zulaan wrote:
Whats the point of this? I mean why do you want to give away $2000 just for someone playing ALOT of games?


Kicking back to the community he's been apart of for a while, and having a little fun for everyone in the process.


How is anybody gonna have a life and fun at the same time playing 4000 games in 6 months?

that's like a second work...seems more of a grind than actual fun... i'm just curious as to who would throw away 6 months of their life on this... but hey.. it's a craaaaaaaaaazy world
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
mlee
Profile Joined March 2009
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 17:50:24
July 31 2010 17:45 GMT
#289
On August 01 2010 02:36 MasterFischer wrote:
Why would you do this?

A testiment to human persistence or what?

Seems kinda pointless.. but whatever brah.. it's your dough throwin' around... just seems like a waste..

you can get a lotta fun for 2000 dollars...

meh.


why the hell not?

If a sc2 player/fan wants to spend his money to promote some sc2 competition.. that's awesome. How else would tourneys and such events even happen?

obviously $2,000 is a lot to some people.. but it's also nothing for others..

Also.. can people not read.. its not 4,000 wins.. its only 3,000.
Win with random = "random" win + "race you got" win
So if u start with 1000 random wins.. you technically already knocked off 2,000 worth of games
hmmm
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
July 31 2010 17:49 GMT
#290
How are you going to check if there is no account sharing? Look at the replay times and see if he's playing 24/7?
King takes Queen
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
July 31 2010 17:53 GMT
#291
I'm going for 1000 random wins. This event is a bit too crazy for me though + saving 1k replays is really hard.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
July 31 2010 17:53 GMT
#292
On July 31 2010 00:44 rS.Sinatra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 00:43 sikyon wrote:
16.666 wins a day. Even if you won every game, and each game only ran 10 minutes, you would be playing almost 3 hours a day, every day.

In comparison, it would require about 200 hours of work to earn 2000 dollars at $10/hour, and at 3 hours a day you would be looking at 6.6 months.

Hmmmmmm interesting.


Don't forget to factor in our shitty win%... so if we only win like.. 50%.. then we have to spend 6 hours a day.. which is $5.00 an hour.. lolol


Well the way Blizz wants the matchmaking to work a player will eventually be winning 50% of his games, so 6 hours a day doesn't sound too far from the reality.
King takes Queen
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 31 2010 17:54 GMT
#293
i think day9 or tlo is gonna win this one
fuck lag
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 31 2010 17:54 GMT
#294
Yeah this is a waste of time if you're just doing it for the money. $.67 is nothing.
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YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
July 31 2010 18:00 GMT
#295
seriously why does so many people think TLO would do this? he said in an interview that he wasn't going to play protoss anymore and focus only on Zerg/Terran, on the other hand everyone calling this a waste of time.. if someone manages to pull this off don't you think that his skills will have greatly improved? He's going to get recognized and most likely he's going to become a really good player.. which means that he could play in tourneys and win them and make even more money afterwards.
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HunterX11
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
July 31 2010 18:08 GMT
#296
On July 31 2010 13:29 virgozero wrote:
not to be a prick but you should define your "cheese".

A zerg going hatch before pool is extremely risky and if scouted can be fatal.
Yet no one will call that cheesey and that can be easily abused especially againts non-aggresive players.
Where as goign 5 gateways everyone screams cheese.

And how much is too much?


I'm pretty sure the rule is to prevent people from doing quick all-ins every game in order to accumulate wins quickly.

Think about it: if your goal is just to get wins as fast as possible without playing legit, you might as well do not only cheese like 6pool, but do something like a blind in-base 2gate proxy on 4p maps: pick a random base to send your probe to, and hope it's the one. If you guessed the right base, it's a free win, and if you guess wrong, it's an automatic loss, but a quick one. Even though you would lose most games doing this, you would probably win around 1/3 of the time, and your losses would only take like 2-3 minutes, so you would win quite a few games an hour while using a strategy that you know is bad and would never use if you were trying to win a single game.
Try using both Irradiate and Defensive Matrix on an Overlord. It looks pretty neat.
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 18:18:24
July 31 2010 18:10 GMT
#297
yo .67 per game... like 20 mins each game and thats if you win.fuck lol man i dunno 2k sounds alot but if u break it down like that it aint shit. but hey what sucks the most is if your like the 2nd player to complete this.
This is seriously detrimental to your health if you do this. i was gonna say increase the prize but that only attracts more attempters and only 1 of them get the money. imo fewer then 5 would ever achieve this in 6 months so imo they all should be awarded 2k not the first one only, money aint shit to you poker players anyway.


double edit. FIRST 3 gets 2k imo

just too painful for the other 2 imo if its first one only
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 18:21:41
July 31 2010 18:17 GMT
#298
On July 31 2010 12:52 Madkipz wrote:
ok, so if im attempting this, hypothetically. would it be better to start out with one race at the time, or do the random first? cuz my terran is horrible.

Well random counts as a win for the race you are given as well, so it's obviously best to start as random for your first 1000 wins

The absolute fastest way to do this, if all you cared about was getting the achievement would be to drop your placements and cheese newbies while leaving every other game the second it finishes loading. Your wins will come much faster than at any other level of play but you'll maintain the 50% win rate so you probably wont be promoted. And it only takes ~1 minute to leave a game.

I dont think anyone in the right mind cares that much about these achievements. But if for some reason I wanted to be the first ever to get 1000 wins as all races, I'd do it this way
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 31 2010 18:18 GMT
#299
On August 01 2010 02:45 mlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 02:36 MasterFischer wrote:
Why would you do this?

A testiment to human persistence or what?

Seems kinda pointless.. but whatever brah.. it's your dough throwin' around... just seems like a waste..

you can get a lotta fun for 2000 dollars...

meh.


why the hell not?

If a sc2 player/fan wants to spend his money to promote some sc2 competition.. that's awesome. How else would tourneys and such events even happen?

obviously $2,000 is a lot to some people.. but it's also nothing for others..

Also.. can people not read.. its not 4,000 wins.. its only 3,000.
Win with random = "random" win + "race you got" win
So if u start with 1000 random wins.. you technically already knocked off 2,000 worth of games


Usually tourneys and such are sponsored by big companies or organizations, rarely do we see smalltime fans do it. I'm not saying he shouldn't do it.. it's just.. I question his personal motives for doing it... I mean, he must get something extraordinarily out of this.. seeing as few people will probaly attempt this.. so I fail to see where the benefit of the entire community falls to place.. but yea yea.. cool... also... winning 1000 random games, is alot harder than the others.. but yea okay.. some time can be saved..
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Batch
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden692 Posts
July 31 2010 18:27 GMT
#300
I wonder if anyone will be setting up money for the Team Zen Master...

1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins
...playing team league games...

Feels like that archievment is harder to grind since you need a partner and practially needs to coordinate your lifes to pull it off...
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