• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:20
CEST 12:20
KST 19:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection2Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th126Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League5Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double1
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Data analysis on 70 million replays Data needed
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4069 users

Solo Zen Master - Page 15

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 41 Next All
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
July 30 2010 16:02 GMT
#281
gotta start saving replays..
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
July 31 2010 03:52 GMT
#282
ok, so if im attempting this, hypothetically. would it be better to start out with one race at the time, or do the random first? cuz my terran is horrible.
"Mudkip"
jyim89
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States33 Posts
July 31 2010 04:05 GMT
#283
My thoughts about this competition:
Whos gonna review 3000+ games worth of replays? and who is gonna keep track of all of them? Also does it really matter if a person cheeses every game? A zen master achievement is a zen master achievement... Plus a person has to play a minimum of 17 games per day without missing a day and meet the deadline and that is without losing a single game. If a person achieves this before the deadline even with cheesing everygame, I say they deserve it =/
my life for aiur
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
July 31 2010 04:25 GMT
#284
It'll take just as long to watch them as it took to play them. Gotta watch at 1x to be fair.
What is a dickfour?
virgozero
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada412 Posts
July 31 2010 04:29 GMT
#285
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
Mod edit
Fayth is legit, thread is legit, no need to ask for bans - he can afford this ;p
- Jinro

/End mod edit


I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv
1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins (it appears the race you get is counted as a win for the race so you're all better off starting with random)

(that's $0.66 per win)

Good luck! =)

Probably going to take a long while so bump this thread/message me when it's done

Edit: added time frame so it would put pressure on those who wanna participate, also account sharing is prohibited obv


So by january 28th at 11:59 EST if nobody has made it, well I keep da monies 8)


NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed


not to be a prick but you should define your "cheese".

A zerg going hatch before pool is extremely risky and if scouted can be fatal.
Yet no one will call that cheesey and that can be easily abused especially againts non-aggresive players.
Where as goign 5 gateways everyone screams cheese.

And how much is too much?
Spitt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
July 31 2010 17:34 GMT
#286
On July 31 2010 13:05 jyim89 wrote:
... If a person achieves this before the deadline even with cheesing everygame, I say they deserve it =/


I say they deserve it too... if YOU pay for the prize.

The problem with allowing cheesing, is that it will be likely someone who ends up writing a bot, and the bot will be so simple that the only way it can win, is to cheese the fights. However, from beta, we know there were some pretty well written AI's made from some players. Add an AI into a bot, and this will be a lot easier then people are thinking.

Make a fire for a man, warm him for a day. Light him on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 31 2010 17:36 GMT
#287
Why would you do this?

A testiment to human persistence or what?

Seems kinda pointless.. but whatever brah.. it's your dough throwin' around... just seems like a waste..

you can get a lotta fun for 2000 dollars...

meh.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 31 2010 17:40 GMT
#288
On July 30 2010 16:35 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 16:33 Zulaan wrote:
Whats the point of this? I mean why do you want to give away $2000 just for someone playing ALOT of games?


Kicking back to the community he's been apart of for a while, and having a little fun for everyone in the process.


How is anybody gonna have a life and fun at the same time playing 4000 games in 6 months?

that's like a second work...seems more of a grind than actual fun... i'm just curious as to who would throw away 6 months of their life on this... but hey.. it's a craaaaaaaaaazy world
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
mlee
Profile Joined March 2009
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 17:50:24
July 31 2010 17:45 GMT
#289
On August 01 2010 02:36 MasterFischer wrote:
Why would you do this?

A testiment to human persistence or what?

Seems kinda pointless.. but whatever brah.. it's your dough throwin' around... just seems like a waste..

you can get a lotta fun for 2000 dollars...

meh.


why the hell not?

If a sc2 player/fan wants to spend his money to promote some sc2 competition.. that's awesome. How else would tourneys and such events even happen?

obviously $2,000 is a lot to some people.. but it's also nothing for others..

Also.. can people not read.. its not 4,000 wins.. its only 3,000.
Win with random = "random" win + "race you got" win
So if u start with 1000 random wins.. you technically already knocked off 2,000 worth of games
hmmm
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
July 31 2010 17:49 GMT
#290
How are you going to check if there is no account sharing? Look at the replay times and see if he's playing 24/7?
King takes Queen
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
July 31 2010 17:53 GMT
#291
I'm going for 1000 random wins. This event is a bit too crazy for me though + saving 1k replays is really hard.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
July 31 2010 17:53 GMT
#292
On July 31 2010 00:44 rS.Sinatra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 00:43 sikyon wrote:
16.666 wins a day. Even if you won every game, and each game only ran 10 minutes, you would be playing almost 3 hours a day, every day.

In comparison, it would require about 200 hours of work to earn 2000 dollars at $10/hour, and at 3 hours a day you would be looking at 6.6 months.

Hmmmmmm interesting.


Don't forget to factor in our shitty win%... so if we only win like.. 50%.. then we have to spend 6 hours a day.. which is $5.00 an hour.. lolol


Well the way Blizz wants the matchmaking to work a player will eventually be winning 50% of his games, so 6 hours a day doesn't sound too far from the reality.
King takes Queen
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 31 2010 17:54 GMT
#293
i think day9 or tlo is gonna win this one
fuck lag
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 31 2010 17:54 GMT
#294
Yeah this is a waste of time if you're just doing it for the money. $.67 is nothing.
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
July 31 2010 18:00 GMT
#295
seriously why does so many people think TLO would do this? he said in an interview that he wasn't going to play protoss anymore and focus only on Zerg/Terran, on the other hand everyone calling this a waste of time.. if someone manages to pull this off don't you think that his skills will have greatly improved? He's going to get recognized and most likely he's going to become a really good player.. which means that he could play in tourneys and win them and make even more money afterwards.
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
HunterX11
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
July 31 2010 18:08 GMT
#296
On July 31 2010 13:29 virgozero wrote:
not to be a prick but you should define your "cheese".

A zerg going hatch before pool is extremely risky and if scouted can be fatal.
Yet no one will call that cheesey and that can be easily abused especially againts non-aggresive players.
Where as goign 5 gateways everyone screams cheese.

And how much is too much?


I'm pretty sure the rule is to prevent people from doing quick all-ins every game in order to accumulate wins quickly.

Think about it: if your goal is just to get wins as fast as possible without playing legit, you might as well do not only cheese like 6pool, but do something like a blind in-base 2gate proxy on 4p maps: pick a random base to send your probe to, and hope it's the one. If you guessed the right base, it's a free win, and if you guess wrong, it's an automatic loss, but a quick one. Even though you would lose most games doing this, you would probably win around 1/3 of the time, and your losses would only take like 2-3 minutes, so you would win quite a few games an hour while using a strategy that you know is bad and would never use if you were trying to win a single game.
Try using both Irradiate and Defensive Matrix on an Overlord. It looks pretty neat.
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 18:18:24
July 31 2010 18:10 GMT
#297
yo .67 per game... like 20 mins each game and thats if you win.fuck lol man i dunno 2k sounds alot but if u break it down like that it aint shit. but hey what sucks the most is if your like the 2nd player to complete this.
This is seriously detrimental to your health if you do this. i was gonna say increase the prize but that only attracts more attempters and only 1 of them get the money. imo fewer then 5 would ever achieve this in 6 months so imo they all should be awarded 2k not the first one only, money aint shit to you poker players anyway.


double edit. FIRST 3 gets 2k imo

just too painful for the other 2 imo if its first one only
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-31 18:21:41
July 31 2010 18:17 GMT
#298
On July 31 2010 12:52 Madkipz wrote:
ok, so if im attempting this, hypothetically. would it be better to start out with one race at the time, or do the random first? cuz my terran is horrible.

Well random counts as a win for the race you are given as well, so it's obviously best to start as random for your first 1000 wins

The absolute fastest way to do this, if all you cared about was getting the achievement would be to drop your placements and cheese newbies while leaving every other game the second it finishes loading. Your wins will come much faster than at any other level of play but you'll maintain the 50% win rate so you probably wont be promoted. And it only takes ~1 minute to leave a game.

I dont think anyone in the right mind cares that much about these achievements. But if for some reason I wanted to be the first ever to get 1000 wins as all races, I'd do it this way
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 31 2010 18:18 GMT
#299
On August 01 2010 02:45 mlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 02:36 MasterFischer wrote:
Why would you do this?

A testiment to human persistence or what?

Seems kinda pointless.. but whatever brah.. it's your dough throwin' around... just seems like a waste..

you can get a lotta fun for 2000 dollars...

meh.


why the hell not?

If a sc2 player/fan wants to spend his money to promote some sc2 competition.. that's awesome. How else would tourneys and such events even happen?

obviously $2,000 is a lot to some people.. but it's also nothing for others..

Also.. can people not read.. its not 4,000 wins.. its only 3,000.
Win with random = "random" win + "race you got" win
So if u start with 1000 random wins.. you technically already knocked off 2,000 worth of games


Usually tourneys and such are sponsored by big companies or organizations, rarely do we see smalltime fans do it. I'm not saying he shouldn't do it.. it's just.. I question his personal motives for doing it... I mean, he must get something extraordinarily out of this.. seeing as few people will probaly attempt this.. so I fail to see where the benefit of the entire community falls to place.. but yea yea.. cool... also... winning 1000 random games, is alot harder than the others.. but yea okay.. some time can be saved..
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Batch
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden692 Posts
July 31 2010 18:27 GMT
#300
I wonder if anyone will be setting up money for the Team Zen Master...

1000 terran wins
1000 protoss wins
1000 zerg wins
1000 random wins
...playing team league games...

Feels like that archievment is harder to grind since you need a partner and practially needs to coordinate your lifes to pull it off...
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #133 (PTR Edition)
CranKy Ducklings SOOP163
CranKy Ducklings71
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3165
Hyun 240
Jaedong 170
actioN 166
Rush 137
EffOrt 125
Pusan 90
Mind 87
Dewaltoss 81
hero 62
[ Show more ]
Backho 56
Sharp 50
sorry 48
Light 46
Shinee 36
ZerO 32
Soulkey 30
NaDa 29
Liquid`Ret 25
Bale 19
soO 10
IntoTheRainbow 10
Noble 5
[sc1f]eonzerg 3
Dota 2
Gorgc2617
League of Legends
JimRising 414
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1785
fl0m744
allub248
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King89
Other Games
singsing1573
Sick139
Lowko79
QueenE38
RuFF_SC231
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick469
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 72
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 41
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2843
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Spring Champion…
40m
Maestros of the Game
5h 10m
The PondCast
23h 40m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 4h
Maestros of the Game
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Solar vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
GSL
4 days
herO vs Rogue
Maru vs Cure
Patches Events
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KK 2v2 League Season 1
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.