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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
July 29 2010 17:07 GMT
#221
RaydriC is going to mop this up ^^
I think esports is pretty nice.
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
July 29 2010 17:11 GMT
#222
if you were serious about this. 22 win a day, 6 pool every game. it would take about 4 hours to get 20 wins assuming 50% win rate. Alternatively. game 1 6 pool, game 2 disconnect at start of game, game 3 6 pool. probably take about 2 and a half hours to get 20 wins. someone said 66 cents per win so 20 x 0.66 = 13 dollars /2.5 hours = 5 dollar an hour?

Doesn't seem worth it if you achieve it by grinding out boring stratergies. Doesn't seem possible if you just play normally. 60% win rate 20 minutes per game is more than 12 hours per day. Seriously?

Actually come to think of it you could play random. That might take it down to 9 hours a day, but thats still rediculous. You get sick and you have to catch up on 9 hours. I don't think I could play 9 hours a day for more than a fortnight before getting bored. It's an impossible request, make it a year, thats still a very tough challenge.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
July 29 2010 17:16 GMT
#223
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed

That seems a little prohibitive but it is your money afterall. Good luck to anyone trying for this.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 29 2010 17:19 GMT
#224
On July 30 2010 02:16 GogoKodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed

That seems a little prohibitive but it is your money afterall. Good luck to anyone trying for this.

If i dont do this some people will abuse like mad and it just wont mean much anymore
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
July 29 2010 17:21 GMT
#225
That new rule just about tripled their time investment... would you really watch 3,000+ replays anyway?
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icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
July 29 2010 17:23 GMT
#226
On July 30 2010 02:19 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 02:16 GogoKodo wrote:
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed

That seems a little prohibitive but it is your money afterall. Good luck to anyone trying for this.

If i dont do this some people will abuse like mad and it just wont mean much anymore


So is it still ok to quit after the game starts so you can stay in the copper league?
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 29 2010 17:26 GMT
#227
On July 30 2010 02:23 icydergosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 02:19 Fayth wrote:
On July 30 2010 02:16 GogoKodo wrote:
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed

That seems a little prohibitive but it is your money afterall. Good luck to anyone trying for this.

If i dont do this some people will abuse like mad and it just wont mean much anymore


So is it still ok to quit after the game starts so you can stay in the copper league?

try it, u'll see for urself it doesn't quite work
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 17:28:04
July 29 2010 17:26 GMT
#228
On July 30 2010 02:19 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 02:16 GogoKodo wrote:
On July 29 2010 10:50 Fayth wrote:
NEW RULE: Must provide replay pack, cheesing EVERY game is not allowed, so upon reviewing replays if someone was trying to free win every single game then he's DQ'ed

That seems a little prohibitive but it is your money afterall. Good luck to anyone trying for this.

If i dont do this some people will abuse like mad and it just wont mean much anymore

I dont think cheesing every game is possible, so the rule is omittable.
Maybe you should consider something like, 3000+win with a POSITIVE record, that will make people play for real not grinding...
Very nice idea though With this, you may help alot of semi or wanna be pro fulfill their dream :D
Terran
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
July 29 2010 17:29 GMT
#229
TLO could defly do it, but it's probably not worth his time.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 29 2010 17:32 GMT
#230
I love WHO the people saying this guy isn't legit are lol. All the people who haven't heard of this guy before who just made accounts within the last 2 months
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Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 19:01:18
July 29 2010 18:48 GMT
#231
Fayth. I really appreciate this attempt to stimulate the community and the amazing prize you are offering, but I feel that this contest is doomed to failure or defilement. As many have mentioned, there's simply no good way to prevent account sharing from skewing the results. A lot of black blood and ill sentiment will flow through these boards when you finally do declare a winner. People will come out of the woodwork swearing up and down that they have evidence. Whether or not the guy did it legit, we won't be able to prove it one way or another and overall it's likely to leave the top few people that tried very hard with a sour taste in their mouths. I feel that this is an irresponsible thing to do. As others mentioned, you could hold a tournament or another event whose results wouldn't be thrown to the winds so easily, but it's definitely your money. I can only be certain that a percentage of people trying to win this will be account sharing from within the same house and sharing the same computer, because that's how you gain an edge at a contest like this, and SC players are all about gaining edges. I don't think the community can watch 4000 replays and have a reasonable certainty that they're all played by the same person, any minor discrepancy or detail will turn into fire and brimstone flamewar posts saying the guy cheated... Why not choose another contest that isn't so flayed open at the belly?

No longer speaking to Fayth from this point on in the post--I'm speaking to others in the thread. Remember that the SC2 1v1 ladder, like Poker, has a zero-sum element--there are never 2 winners in a 1v1. Far be it from me to discourage you from attempting to win this. Go for the rainbow, chase your dreams and all that jazz. Just don't get sucked into making an unrealistic effort at winning this contest because you have starry-eyed dreams that are not backed up by the grounding in reality necessary to see just what you're trying to do. 4000 wins, even if you average 10-12 minutes per win somehow, that's over 1000 hours of nonstop winning. You'll be competing with others who have the same idea, and each time you win you run the risk of raising your league and getting in against diamond players. If you're a bronze, copper, silver, whatever the hell player on average, you're probably being made a joke of by claiming to try and win this tournament. Don't forget drops, lagging out, service outages, getting rushed on the one map you don't know as well as the rest.

Mods, apologies if I'm being excessively negative but I truly thought about this and think it's a bad idea. If Fayth is just taking a very indirect route toward trying to get more people playing on the 1v1 ladder to serve as fish, then I'm sure it will be successful, but with a $2000 prize for the offering I'd love to see him use that power toward creating some sort of awesome event or themed tournament using new maps and a selected playerbase. Not my money, though, I know!

edit: I made this post before seeing Fayth's most recent, stating that the winner would be disqualified for excessive cheesing. Really, when you start having to make qualifiers like that to even give the contest a chance at veracity, you ought to see that you have taken a poor approach...
What is a dickfour?
Backpeddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark33 Posts
July 29 2010 18:56 GMT
#232
play 40 games each day if u got a decent winrate atleast, and in weekends play even more, doable if u rly have no life.
a11
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany303 Posts
July 29 2010 19:14 GMT
#233
I'm not so sure if all these concerns are valid. Really, the only person who could withhold such madness is someone who would play all those games anyways, as in: tries to go pro. Sure, three silver level players could play around the clock, one for each race, living in the same house, and finish first, but I doubt there is anyone with the commitment to do it for a lousy 666,6_ bucks. Nor will there be anyone crazy enough to cheese over five thousand games (or three thousand, if leaving every second game). That's why I think there will be a legit winner or no winner at all. Or a winner that has to go into a psychiatry afterwards
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
July 29 2010 19:17 GMT
#234
Ill pass, the time and toll this would take on my body and mind isn't worth 2000 bucks.
RedSword
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada53 Posts
July 29 2010 19:20 GMT
#235
The only problem I see is now the subjective definition of Feyth's 'cheese'.

Is a 8 pool a cheese ? 9pool ? or ...

But well, good luck to the challengers.
TheFinalWord
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia790 Posts
July 29 2010 19:27 GMT
#236
On July 30 2010 03:56 Backpeddle wrote:
play 40 games each day if u got a decent winrate atleast, and in weekends play even more, doable if u rly have no life.

For a year? I don't think it's possible. However, if it was possible, well, doing something like this would ruin someone's life. I do not envy the winner. I actually think this contest may be unethical, with such a strict timeframe. Not the kind of thing I would be endorsing if I was Fayth.
ocho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States172 Posts
July 29 2010 19:29 GMT
#237
On July 30 2010 04:27 TheFinalWord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 03:56 Backpeddle wrote:
play 40 games each day if u got a decent winrate atleast, and in weekends play even more, doable if u rly have no life.

For a year? I don't think it's possible. However, if it was possible, well, doing something like this would ruin someone's life. I do not envy the winner. I actually think this contest may be unethical, with such a strict timeframe. Not the kind of thing I would be endorsing if I was Fayth.


I completely agree, I'm a bit astonished this is being allowed.
ExoCorsair
Profile Joined February 2008
United States48 Posts
July 29 2010 19:30 GMT
#238
I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv


Isn't this, um, discriminatory and/or illegal for a contest?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 29 2010 19:32 GMT
#239
cheese is something that is litterally an all in within like 4 minutes and insta leave if it fails, It's fine if someone cheese, fails and keep playing trying to come back
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
July 29 2010 19:35 GMT
#240
On July 30 2010 04:30 ExoCorsair wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'll ship 2000$ to the first player who gets the Solo Zen Master achievement on US or Europe server within 6 months, no koreans allowed obv


Isn't this, um, discriminatory and/or illegal for a contest?


why? it's his contest.
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