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On July 27 2010 13:26 Momentum wrote:I think there's a lot to be said for the power of nostalgia. When you're a kid playing a game for the first time, everything is new. The entire design of an RTS, RPG, FPS is brand new to you. It's easy to point to the games you remember as a kid and wonder why the games today don't capture you like they used to. 
Not really, the first game I played was Super Mario Bros and Duck Hunt on NES. I ran Warcraft and Wolfenstein off MS-DOS. Good games, sure, but the best games and genres of all time definitely ran their course during the 90s. NES platformers and SNES role players don't have any equals today.
On topic, there were probably hundreds, maybe thousands of little games on the PC. Many you could play side-by-side with a buddy on the same keyboard. 2D graphics and no cinematics, but their difficulty and fun factor will probably never again be matched. As video games got more popular, it's pretty essential that they dumb it down for the masses if they expect to survive as businesses.
It happens to anything that gets popular, they lose what made them originally enjoyable. It's a cultural phenomenon, not the designers' fault.
http://www.hiwiller.com/2010/04/29/if-mario-was-designed-in-2010/
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On July 27 2010 10:55 Half wrote:
The golden age of gaming was 92-2004. sorry. You missed it.
It was actually the early 80's. Sorry. You missed it. There will never be another time like that (before the crash).
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Agree with vesicular. There was less computing power but you had to be there.
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I am really disappointed at most games coming out now days.
Most them aren't even worth playing because they aren't fun because its a copy of some other game we have all been playing for a long time.
You know like how every FPS released today is a Counter Strike clone.
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On July 27 2010 10:51 Whiztard wrote:
Ah, my TeamLiquid community, I think we are on the verge of a Golden Age of Gaming. For the first time, I'm feeling like as if everyone within my city will at least know the name of Starcraft and I have a feeling that most of them will at least play Starcraft II in one way or another.
A couple of months ago, I've had conversations with a couple of teachers (yup, teachers) in my school about Starcraft II, speculating how huge its going to be. I've had similar conversations with other students, and each time I talk about it, I get this feeling as if everything is going to be united together and its going to be good.
So what have you noticed about your community ever since Starcraft II was announced?
retitle thread: golden age of starcraft...
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On July 27 2010 11:24 taruts wrote:
This is definitely not my experience although I wished it was.
Here in New Zealand, the general population is just not as technologically or entertainment-wise savvy as ppl in the USA and elsewhere. *sighs*
I agree with this statement its so sad.... 
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Arcade is dead, now latest street fighter have only console release !
Also here in France cybercoffees are fewer and fewer.
It's the golden age of online gaming. No more people shouting and supporting you around when you play
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On July 27 2010 10:55 Half wrote:The golden age of gaming was 92-2004. sorry. You missed it. The last half decade has been a veritable dark age. Maybe we'll see a revival :D. Probably not. Computer Science.
One call it Counter Strike, the other calls it Computer Science 
Its the same of course
Eidth btw: In my company we have lots of SC2 players also
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There cannot be a macro-level "Golden Age of Gaming" because it is down to the individual experience.
I'd define it as that magical, irretrievable few years during puberty where you were young and naive enough to have ridiculous drive, patience and passion (not to mention the TIME) to immerse yourself in set number of quality cultural milestone games and old enough to have the awareness to appreciate that youd never get the chance for such simple, pure fun ever again as times change.
For me the release of SC2 is a very special cultural event on the scale of which the medium rarely enjoys but it is far from enough to usher in a "Golden Age."
23 years old, with life and its wonderful adventures and pitfalls ahead the release of SC2, the commotion and discussion around it is exciting but it will never compare to running home every night after school to play shitty 1v1 Lost Temple and stream gritty quality OSL matches featuring Boxer and Yellow on my modem.
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On July 27 2010 13:04 showbiz wrote:
The "golden age of gaming" was whenever you were a kid.
+1
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Golden age of gaming was Quake 2, Red Alert & Carmageddon 2 :D
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For me the "Golden Age" was 2000-2005 with Counter-Strike, Quake, Painkiller, and SC\WC3. Tournaments like ESWC were giving out hundreds of thousands in prizes and HLTV spectator's were up into the hundreds of thousands.
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On July 27 2010 12:00 MavercK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2010 11:58 sikyon wrote:
I don't think gaming is dying at all. Look at world of warcraft for all the proof you need. For all it's faults, you can't deny that it has monumental achievement as a way of bringing people who would not otherwise play video games into an online RPG.
There are not as many games that cater to hardcore gaming nerds such as many of us here on TL.net (starcraft II is one of the few) but I think that is a sign that the industry is growing and reaching beyond a tiny player base - not the other way around. most people who play WoW. is the first and last video game they'll play. likewise it's probably destroyed most peoples taste in gaming. had a guy come into my shop the other day and say starcraft 2 was a disappointment because it was like all those old games and not an MMO like WoW. i basically mentally slapped the shit out of him. but these are mostly the type of people who play WoW.
Sorry buddy but you're going to have to back up those extraordinary claims with some stats. The plural of anecdote is not statistics, btw.
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As previously stated, the Golden Age of Gaming is gone. The mid 90s to early 2000s were most likely the most enjoyable years of video games, the ideas were great, characters had depth, SC bloomed, and many franchises were still fresh. I think the steam community plus the Blizzard community currently is the biggest group of gamers ever to exist, but I don't think that makes it the Golden Age. We're in something else right now, and the community is indeed changing with SC2. I'm not sure what to call it, but its not as pure as the Golden Age.
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I'd have to agree if there was a golden age of gaming it was in the late 80s or early 90s. By the mid 90s gaming was already heading the wrong way. Titles like Starcraft, Age of Empires, the Ultima games, Civ, Lode Runner, Sim CIty, Tetris, Doom, Zelda etc are better than pretty much anything that came out mid 90s or later.
Doesn't matter, games are still fun and most of what you consider the golden age is indeed going to be nostalgia.
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Golden age of gaming happened. It was called the late eighties til about '94.
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Unfortunately everyone I know is an xbox noob, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to be the only one in my town, at least out of the people I know in my age group that will be playing the game
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On July 27 2010 22:56 EnderCN wrote:
By the mid 90s gaming was already heading the wrong way. Titles like Starcraft, Age of Empires, the Ultima games, Civ, Lode Runner, Sim CIty, Tetris, Doom, Zelda etc are better than pretty much anything that came out mid 90s or later.
Titles like Starcraft
anything that came out mid 90s or later.
Starcraft
mid 90s or later
The first game of the StarCraft series was released for Microsoft Windows on 31 March 1998
Age of Empires
October 15, 1997
Civilization II
February 29, 1996
Yep. Those mid-late 90's sure did suck.
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The golden age of gaming ended years ago, now we're in a phase were games get watered down to appeal to the masses, we can only hope once enough people get intrested, in 10 years or so, we will have a competitive scene for gaming big enough to have games or special versions of games made for them.
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Casual games are not the problem lol.
The people who play casual games would not be gaming at all if not for them; we should be thanking Nintendo/Popcap/whoever. The problem is that the big companies are generally not making good games any more. They either try to pander to the hardcore (GRAY! DARK! GRITTY! CUTSCENES!) or have no innovation (WWII shooter XIII). I mostly play indie games now.
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