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Canada77 Posts
is zerg dont have any anti ground armored unit except ultralisk? but terran got marauder for anti ground armored units and toss got immortal and stalker(?) (does stalker deal bonus dmg on armor?) so basically terran can counter any armored unit in tier 1 while toss can counter armored units in tier 1.5 or 2 but zerg is in tier 3? discuss | ||
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shlomo
258 Posts
(aka wait for t3 to get anything done properly in Browderland) | ||
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zergyjames
19 Posts
all you said is true though. | ||
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Lexvink
Canada310 Posts
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cr4ckshot
United States291 Posts
During mid-game, the DPS of hydras and roaches are pretty high, so while Zerg doesn't do any "bonus" damage against armored units until ultras, it doesn't mean that they can't respond to a player that builds armored units. | ||
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Leeoku
1617 Posts
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Maji
Australia82 Posts
tier3 upgrade for ling maybe that should give more of a bonus vs that armor type as well as the attack speed increase might make them able to kill units before they die themself finally lol. Stalkers are only beaten if the lings out number them 1-6 bro. | ||
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SugarBear
United States842 Posts
I'm thinking they should add something in, like the "Zerg Fiend" that is morphed from two zerglings (like an archon) and requires a tier 1.5 tech building (like banelings). Costs 1 food, shoots up, and should be a little stronger than 1 zealot. | ||
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Maji
Australia82 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:37 SugarBear wrote: A bigger problem is zerg doesn't have a low-tier 1 food unit that can shoot up. I'm thinking they should add something in, like the "Zerg Fiend" that is morphed from two zerglings (like an archon) and requires a tier 1.5 tech building (like banelings). Costs 1 food, shoots up, and should be a little stronger than 1 zealot. true that why ling need abit of a buff in damage do vs certain armors to compenstate for not ablem to mass produce. | ||
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cr4ckshot
United States291 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:37 SugarBear wrote: A bigger problem is zerg doesn't have a low-tier 1 food unit that can shoot up. I'm thinking they should add something in, like the "Zerg Fiend" that is morphed from two zerglings (like an archon) and requires a tier 1.5 tech building (like banelings). Costs 1 food, shoots up, and should be a little stronger than 1 zealot. No, there is no issue. Make more than 1 queen if you want anti-air. | ||
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tskuzzy
United States33 Posts
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SugarBear
United States842 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:40 cr4ckshot wrote: No, there is no issue. Make more than 1 queen if you want anti-air. This works 90% of the time but on certain maps (Desert Oasis) terran players can rush 2 starports and get out 3-5 banshees that will destroy a lot of queens even if you transfuse micro. | ||
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lyAsakura
United States1414 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:41 tskuzzy wrote: Perhaps move the Adrenal Glands upgrade to Lair tech? no | ||
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:37 SugarBear wrote: A bigger problem is zerg doesn't have a low-tier 1 food unit that can shoot up. I'm thinking they should add something in, like the "Zerg Fiend" that is morphed from two zerglings (like an archon) and requires a tier 1.5 tech building (like banelings). Costs 1 food, shoots up, and should be a little stronger than 1 zealot. You realoze you make 2 zerglings per food, for 50. and zealots are 100 mins, 2 food. So this makes Zerg overpoweredish. it would basiccaly be a strong zerg T1.5 Zergling that is stronger than a zealot for half the cost and food. Oh, and its ranged. And it shoots up. | ||
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Goobus
Hong Kong587 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:42 SugarBear wrote: This works 90% of the time but on certain maps (Desert Oasis) terran players can rush 2 starports and get out 3-5 banshees that will destroy a lot of queens even if you transfuse micro. I play Zerg, and I'm perfectly able to get hydras/mutas up by the time terran has 3-5 banshees. | ||
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cr4ckshot
United States291 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:42 SugarBear wrote: This works 90% of the time but on certain maps (Desert Oasis) terran players can rush 2 starports and get out 3-5 banshees that will destroy a lot of queens even if you transfuse micro. Well, just like any other race, if someone goes heavy air they make static defense structures. AKA make spore crawlers. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:45 Goobus wrote: I play Zerg, and I'm perfectly able to get hydras/mutas up by the time terran has 3-5 banshees. This. If I scout him getting an early factory, hence teching, I will not FE and will spend my first 100 gas on Lair and get hydra's ASAP. If you scout properly you should have plenty of Hydra's to deal with 3-5 banshees by the time they come out.. | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
my opinion that infestors are just absolutely necessary is becoming more and more solidified. On July 24 2010 10:44 AnxietE wrote: You realoze you make 2 zerglings per food, for 50. and zealots are 100 mins, 2 food. So this makes Zerg overpoweredish. it would basiccaly be a strong zerg T1.5 Zergling that is stronger than a zealot for half the cost and food. Oh, and its ranged. And it shoots up. ..... roughly 4 lings = 1 zlot in fighting so it's all the same 100 minerals, 2 supply for 4 lings 100 minerals 2 supply for 1 zlot. | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:41 tskuzzy wrote: Perhaps move the Adrenal Glands upgrade to Lair tech? No. The issue is not zergling DPS but the size of many armoured units such as the marauder that are small enough that when completely surrounded by zerglings the zerglings do not do much damage. 200/200 for adrenal glands is silly at Lair Tech. On July 24 2010 10:51 waffling1 wrote: ..... roughly 4 lings = 1 zlot in fighting so it's all the same 100 minerals, 2 supply for 4 lings 100 minerals 2 supply for 1 zlot. It is not the same because larva is a resource. In the fight they are equal in supply and min/gas but using up the larva resource for fights early seriously impedes your econ by using larva for lings instead of drones. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
Not t1.5, I'd argue marauders, I'm talking about t1 | ||
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